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Old 10-12-21, 12:21 PM
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Died with a winning lottery ticket in his pocket...

Do you still have your SS card? I have no idea where mine is... I just know the number, and have used it on my tax forms for as long as I have submitted tax forms.

The body of a man was found along a private beach on the Saginaw Bay with a winning lottery ticket.

An autopsy of 57-year-old Gregory Jarvis confirms he drowned. Police were concerned after they discovered the winning ticket for $45,000 in his wallet.

He had tried to cash it in but didnít have a Social Security card that was in good shape.

The Michigan Lottery Commission confirms that winners of prizes of more than $600 have to provide a photo ID and their Social Security card, the actual card, to collect their winnings.
https://www.wbay.com/2021/09/28/drow...et-his-wallet/

BTW, no foul play is suspected... he died from a head injury, that supposedly occurred when he slipped while tying up his boat.
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Old 10-12-21, 03:52 PM
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I lost my SS card decades ago. My SS number is imprinted in my dead brain cells. I’m not a number I’m a free man!
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My wife has all the family's SS cards in a metal box in a closet with other important papers (birth/marriage certificates, etc). Don't think it would help me cash in this other guy's lotto ticket tho
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I still have mine, actually two, since they issued me a second newer one when I applied for my Social Security pension benefits. I keep them along with all my other important documents in a small fireproof safe in a closet. I think you can get a replacement at any federal Social Security office if you have a birth certificate.
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Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
My wife has all the family's SS cards in a metal box in a closet with other important papers (birth/marriage certificates, etc). Don't think it would help me cash in this other guy's lotto ticket tho
Yup I have my SS card and the like in a safety deposit box at a bank in another town along with very important documents. You never know what is going to happen and critical documents need to stay safe. I donít trust the local courthouse for anything too many nosy people that can see your personal business.
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I actually do have my original SS card.
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Originally Posted by RubeRad View Post
My wife has all the family's SS cards in a metal box in a closet with other important papers (birth/marriage certificates, etc). Don't think it would help me cash in this other guy's lotto ticket tho
I would like to suggest getting a fireproof box or a small safe for those, Rube!
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
I actually do have my original SS card.
Really? I find that unbelievable. I think you should post a picture of it here for all of us to see.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
I actually do have my original SS card.
I have mine as well. Hard to believe how much ass sweat that thing has lived through.
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I would like to suggest getting a fireproof box or a small safe for those, Rube!
Yes, we should probably do that. Although it's a metal box, it's not specifically fireproof, and a house fire would probably turn it into an oven that would get to above the burning point of paper

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Really? I find that unbelievable. I think you should post a picture of it here for all of us to see.
I was going to jokingly ask if I should post a pic.

Itís amazing that I still have it because Iím terrible at keeping records.
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Congrats to his relatives? Maybe they can buy him a nice family plot?

Here lies Gregory Jarvis.
Nice guy with good luck
until he fell into bad luck.
Now, he has no luck at all.
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My original SS card wore out. Apparently you're not supposed to swim with it. Even in your wallet. In the early 80s I got one of those metal replacement SS cards.

Changed jobs several times with no problems. In 89, the pizza delivery place insisted on the real card. Had to get a new "official" card issued. Have no idea where it is now. No problems getting jobs since then either.
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You swam with your wallet?

They make metal SS cards? Like the SS administration does?
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My original SS card was laminated, so it could get wet without being damaged. The replacement card specifically states that it should not be laminated, but I've never needed to use it since it was issued when I retired and applied for my SS pension. Curiously, it also instructs me not to carry it on my person and to keep it in a safe place to prevent theft or loss.
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isn't a copy of your income tax or any thing with your ss# good enuf
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isn't a copy of your income tax or any thing with your ss# good enuf
As of a few years ago in Texas, nope. In late 2012 my drivers license expired but I was so busy looking after my mom I didn't notice. She had Alzheimer's and I was swamped taking care of her at home, taking her to medical appointments, etc. She needed a power wheelchair to get around so we always used the city buses or cabs designed with power lifts for mobility impaired folks, since she couldn't even get into my pickup truck. There's a grace period to renew late, but I missed that.

By 2014 I could no longer even pick up her prescriptions, or buy a box of Sudafed for my allergies, because they checked licenses and state IDs.

At the same time one of my cousins was dumped by her ex-husband in a rural town in the middle of Nowhere, Texas, no transportation, no buses, cabs, nothing. I was hardly using my truck anyway, and she had been a big help to me looking after my grandmother. We both worked in health care and looked after older family, and now she was working as a home health aide, but had no vehicle. So I gave her my truck since I didn't really need it in the city. I walk, bicycle, take the bus or Uber everywhere now. Cheaper than maintaining a vehicle.

Transferring the vehicle was a huge hassle. First I needed to renew my license. That turned out to be next to impossible. It was quicker to get a state ID instead, and even that took all day, from 8 AM to 5 PM when the government offices closed.

The state and county offices wouldn't accept any form of identification specified in their own brochures: my original birth certificate, my laminated copy of a notarized birth certificate on a wallet sized card, my expired drivers license, my military ID and discharge papers, my government employee ID, multiple pieces of mail from the bank, etc., my apartment lease... nothing. The only way to get a state ID was to have a state ID.

The only option they would accept would be for my cousin to obtain a copy of my birth certificate, printed out and notarized fresh from the office during that visit. If I or my cousin left the office and returned later, they would reject my application. It all had to be witnessed, notarized with an affidavit from my cousin and finished in the same visit, with both of us present.

It wasn't even that difficult to get a new Social Security card, my military veterans VA card, etc., in 2018. I was already in the VA computer records.

Texas was so notoriously difficult for awhile the federal government got involved. It's not quite as difficult now, but not much easier either. For years when I went to vote all they asked for was my current voter registration card. Now they don't even look at it. All they want or will accept is a state ID or license. They check the name and address against a printed database. If I single letter or number is off, due to a typo, or moving from one apartment unit to another in the same building, they'll reject the voter. I've seen them do it at almost every election the past 10 years.

Friends who've renewed in person at the DMV say it still takes hours, even when their license hasn't expired. However it may be possible to renew online, although I don't know whether that covers applicants who have changed addresses.
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post
As of a few years ago in Texas, nope. In late 2012 my drivers license expired but I was so busy looking after my mom I didn't notice. She had Alzheimer's and I was swamped taking care of her at home, taking her to medical appointments, etc. She needed a power wheelchair to get around so we always used the city buses or cabs designed with power lifts for mobility impaired folks, since she couldn't even get into my pickup truck. There's a grace period to renew late, but I missed that.

By 2014 I could no longer even pick up her prescriptions, or buy a box of Sudafed for my allergies, because they checked licenses and state IDs.

At the same time one of my cousins was dumped by her ex-husband in a rural town in the middle of Nowhere, Texas, no transportation, no buses, cabs, nothing. I was hardly using my truck anyway, and she had been a big help to me looking after my grandmother. We both worked in health care and looked after older family, and now she was working as a home health aide, but had no vehicle. So I gave her my truck since I didn't really need it in the city. I walk, bicycle, take the bus or Uber everywhere now. Cheaper than maintaining a vehicle.

Transferring the vehicle was a huge hassle. First I needed to renew my license. That turned out to be next to impossible. It was quicker to get a state ID instead, and even that took all day, from 8 AM to 5 PM when the government offices closed.

The state and county offices wouldn't accept any form of identification specified in their own brochures: my original birth certificate, my laminated copy of a notarized birth certificate on a wallet sized card, my expired drivers license, my military ID and discharge papers, my government employee ID, multiple pieces of mail from the bank, etc., my apartment lease... nothing. The only way to get a state ID was to have a state ID.

The only option they would accept would be for my cousin to obtain a copy of my birth certificate, printed out and notarized fresh from the office during that visit. If I or my cousin left the office and returned later, they would reject my application. It all had to be witnessed, notarized with an affidavit from my cousin and finished in the same visit, with both of us present.

It wasn't even that difficult to get a new Social Security card, my military veterans VA card, etc., in 2018. I was already in the VA computer records.

Texas was so notoriously difficult for awhile the federal government got involved. It's not quite as difficult now, but not much easier either. For years when I went to vote all they asked for was my current voter registration card. Now they don't even look at it. All they want or will accept is a state ID or license. They check the name and address against a printed database. If I single letter or number is off, due to a typo, or moving from one apartment unit to another in the same building, they'll reject the voter. I've seen them do it at almost every election the past 10 years.

Friends who've renewed in person at the DMV say it still takes hours, even when their license hasn't expired. However it may be possible to renew online, although I don't know whether that covers applicants who have changed addresses.
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post
As of a few years ago in Texas, nope. In late 2012 my drivers license expired but I was so busy looking after my mom I didn't notice. She had Alzheimer's and I was swamped taking care of her at home, taking her to medical appointments, etc. She needed a power wheelchair to get around so we always used the city buses or cabs designed with power lifts for mobility impaired folks, since she couldn't even get into my pickup truck. There's a grace period to renew late, but I missed that.

By 2014 I could no longer even pick up her prescriptions, or buy a box of Sudafed for my allergies, because they checked licenses and state IDs.

At the same time one of my cousins was dumped by her ex-husband in a rural town in the middle of Nowhere, Texas, no transportation, no buses, cabs, nothing. I was hardly using my truck anyway, and she had been a big help to me looking after my grandmother. We both worked in health care and looked after older family, and now she was working as a home health aide, but had no vehicle. So I gave her my truck since I didn't really need it in the city. I walk, bicycle, take the bus or Uber everywhere now. Cheaper than maintaining a vehicle.

Transferring the vehicle was a huge hassle. First I needed to renew my license. That turned out to be next to impossible. It was quicker to get a state ID instead, and even that took all day, from 8 AM to 5 PM when the government offices closed.

The state and county offices wouldn't accept any form of identification specified in their own brochures: my original birth certificate, my laminated copy of a notarized birth certificate on a wallet sized card, my expired drivers license, my military ID and discharge papers, my government employee ID, multiple pieces of mail from the bank, etc., my apartment lease... nothing. The only way to get a state ID was to have a state ID.

The only option they would accept would be for my cousin to obtain a copy of my birth certificate, printed out and notarized fresh from the office during that visit. If I or my cousin left the office and returned later, they would reject my application. It all had to be witnessed, notarized with an affidavit from my cousin and finished in the same visit, with both of us present.

It wasn't even that difficult to get a new Social Security card, my military veterans VA card, etc., in 2018. I was already in the VA computer records.

Texas was so notoriously difficult for awhile the federal government got involved. It's not quite as difficult now, but not much easier either. For years when I went to vote all they asked for was my current voter registration card. Now they don't even look at it. All they want or will accept is a state ID or license. They check the name and address against a printed database. If I single letter or number is off, due to a typo, or moving from one apartment unit to another in the same building, they'll reject the voter. I've seen them do it at almost every election the past 10 years.

Friends who've renewed in person at the DMV say it still takes hours, even when their license hasn't expired. However it may be possible to renew online, although I don't know whether that covers applicants who have changed addresses.
My mother, who lives in Texas, says the same thing. She is85 years old, no longer drives, but can't vote either, due to the hassles of the Texas voter registration system and DMV.

It was common for DL to be issued in a woman's married name. Well her husband's have all passed on, her birth cert is in her original name, and from a different state, and she is too old to stand on line for hours at the DMV for their BS. So she no longer votes.

Do you folks remember the case of the female judge in TX that could not VOTE? She could hold office, she was recognized, but her ID was only "GOOD ENOUGH" for a provisional vote. It had her married name on it.
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My original SS card was laminated, so it could get wet without being damaged. The replacement card specifically states that it should not be laminated...
I have my original card from when I was perhaps twelve or so. I laminated it years ago when I worked for a company that had the proper equipment to do so. I have seen the newer ones say not to laminate them, but mine does not.

I remember my father taking me to get that SS card. When my kids were born, they were assigned numbers immediately in the hospital.
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That's because the standards for proof of identity are much more stringent now to get a passport. Now it's necessary to provide "proof of citizenship," among other identification.

Proof of citizenship technically includes a birth certificate, but the standards have increased for an acceptable birth certificate. As I described above in my 2014 experience, they would not accept my original birth certificate from 1957, or the laminated portable notarized and stamped birth card issued by my county of residence in 1981. They would accept only a freshly printed copy of my birth certificate, which I could not obtain without a state ID. But they would provide *my* birth certificate to my cousin because she had a current drivers license. And we both had to be present to complete the transaction.

And that was just to obtain a current state ID, not a passport.

Twenty-five or so years ago the then-underground "patriot militia" and related groups opposed the entire notion of a national identity card as an invasion of privacy. Now those same groups are massed on the borders, demanding more and more stringent requirements for citizenship and proof of citizenship.

The current standards for a passport effectively *are* that national ID.

However the descendants of those "patriot" groups have now reverted to "states rights" to increased self-determination, which is the only obstacle in the path of declaring an official national ID.
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