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Old 12-04-21, 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post
Well, I just re-listened to Dirty Work for the first time in about five years, and Goats Head Soup for the first time in about 50 years. Still love Dirty Work, still think Goats Head Soup is meh, utterly forgettable. Mostly I was surprised to find that even Robert Christgau liked Dirty Work. He never liked anything I liked.

I might try some of the more recent Stones stuff for my jogging playlist. But my taste in music has moved on from most conventional rock. My favorite era for rock and pop is still 80s-'90s stuff, punk, new wave, power pop, whatever label makers want to call it. Sometimes I'd rather listen to jazz or meandering ambient and wannabe soundtrack music, from Eno through Hammock and All India Radio.
other than a decent cover of "harlem shuffle" and the leadoff track of "one hit to the body" (throw in "winning ugly" if you must), personally never found much redeemable within dirty work.
liked voodoo lounge, steel wheels, emotional rescue better.

i'll take "heartbreaker", "angie" and the rest of the goats head soup meh soup anytime instead. "crisscross" and "scarlet" off the 2020 deluxe version are pretty solid.
dunno how neither ended up on the original release.

but yah...i'll take nearly anything by eno vs either of these albums.
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Originally Posted by Bob Ross View Post
In certain circles that is what's known as a band's "apex sequence" ...their undisputed greatest output that also happen to be consecutive albums. [edit: notwithstanding that you didn't list them in chronological order.]
Personally I don't think Get Your Ya-Ya's Out holds up to repeated listening the way ^^^those four studio recordings do, but it certainly doesn't suck, it won't kill your children, and it's at least strong enough to fit in nicely with the bands chronological discography during those years.



At the time it was released I would have agreed with you (...though not so much that I wouldn't then also buy the subsequent album It's Only Rock'N'Roll. Whereas Black & Blue was so horrible, and such a departure from the Taylor years, that I could never bring myself to buy it, nor any other subsequent Stones album ever. But I digress...)

Goats Head Soup came out while I was in junior high school, and while there were one or two tunes on it that I really liked, it mostly got played when I was in dire need of a quick nap: Fire up Side Two of Goats Head Soup and I would be fast asleep before the third cut. Every. Single. Time. I figured it was because A) Side Two was boring, and/or B) Side Two sucked. Didn't matter, it was like instant Melatonin. Zzzzzzz...

But 40- or 50-some-odd years later, my opinion of Goats Head Soup has improved dramatically, to the point where I would now consider it the final album of their "apex sequence" (with It's Only Rock'N'Roll being the swan song). Tunes like "Coming Down Again" and "Can You Hear The Music?" and especially "Winter" fit in perfectly with the raw charm and piquant sincerity of the best cuts from Exile On Main Street or Sticky Fingers. It's really only the one or two clunkers -- "Silver Train" and "Hide Your Love" (and maybe, arguably "Star Star") -- that make it less-than-stellar.

effin' Mick Taylor was definitely the special sauce in that band imho.
agree with nearly 100% of this. esp mick taylor. if for nothing other than the rhythm guitar track on "i got the blues" from sticky fingers.

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Old 12-04-21, 11:42 PM
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Dirty Work from 1986 I like. 1989 Steel Wheels has some ok stuff. I remember Emotional Rescue back in the 7th grade making up our own vulgar lyrics to get a cheap laugh.
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Old 12-06-21, 05:35 AM
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Here is the Live As It Happened Television bcast on South African Television which was both a great show with a near perfect live Stereo sound mix.
---------FEB 25, 1995 Ellis Park Stadium, Johannesburg , South Africa
1) Not Fade Away
2) Tumbling Dice
3) You Got Me Rocking
4) It's All Over Now
5) Live With Me
6) Sparks Will Fly
7) Satisfaction
8) Out of Tears
9) Angie
10) Rock and A Hard Place
11) Midnight Rambler
12) I Go Wild
13) Miss You
14) Intro of the band
15) ***** Tonk Women
16) Happy
17) Slippin Away
18) Sympathy For The Devil
19) Monkey Man
20) Street Fighting Man
21) Start Me Up
22) Its Only Rock N Roll
23) Brown Sugar
24) Jumping Jack Flash





Here is a listenable audience cassette recording which ranks among the best of the 1975 US TOUR.....they started the '75 tour at LSU, in Baton Rouge
-----2nd show of the 1975 tour, JUNE 1st, 1975 stereo cassette audience tape recording--



1972 tour fans might enjoy these crude basic cassette corder audience tapes that are from the original source and clear and somewhat listenable

Audience Tape JUNE 19, 1972 Chicago Illinois


Audience Tape JUNE 20, 1972 2nd Chicago, Illinois


Audience Tape JULY 18, 1972 Boston Garden


Audience Tape by Diane D. ___ July 19, 1972 Boston Garden



Mick Jagger Melbourne Australia performing "FOXY LADY" Oct 15, 1988


Keith Richards Oct 1991 " Goin Down" Seville Spain tv


Rolling Stones " HOUND DOG" June 28, 1978 in MEMPHIS at MidSouth Coliseum


Keith's Talk is Cheap album is excellent





Jagger's WANDERING SPIRIT album is excellent



VOODOO LOUNGE is one of the Rolling Stones best albums in my opinion.
I also have about 8 or 9 cd's worth of demos and then fully worked songs that didn't proceed beyond rehearsals to the studio.

STRIPPED is fantastic, as is the bootleg CD called "STRIPPED COMPANION"

Saint of Me from BRIDGES... is as good as anything from 1965 to 1975.

There are two distinctly different versions of a fantastic 1958 Jerry Butler song called "FOR YOUR PRECIOUS LOVE" that the Rolling Stones recorded in Monserat during the STEEL WHEELS sessions in early 1989. These are not half ass run throughs or just foolin around warm ups......these are perfectly mixed full seriously GREAT VERSIONS with unbelievably outstanding vocals from Mick Jagger. You can tell the difference in the two different fully mixed songs........ These should be released as they are fantastic. There are a couple of other Steel Wheels sessions songs that are really good too




from FLASHPOINT here is the song SATISFACTION which was recorded Sunday Nov 26th, 1989 at Death Valley Stadium in CLEMSON SOUTH CAROLINA


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Jamming these videos right now. Before Hughesnet high speed (BS) satellite internet provider decides to crap out as usual. My parents should have taken me to a Stones concert in the early 1970s but they were too nerdy . The ranch where fun goes to die that is what I called our place lol. Anyways great videos!
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Originally Posted by Vintage Schwinn View Post
Mick Jagger Melbourne Australia performing "FOXY LADY" Oct 15, 1988
Holy crap, look at his backing band! Doug Wimbish on bass, Simon Phillips on drums, Joe Satriani and Jimmy Rip (I think?) on guitars... !!!
Any idea who the keyboard player is?
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Old 12-15-21, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Ross View Post
Holy crap, look at his backing band! Doug Wimbish on bass, Simon Phillips on drums, Joe Satriani and Jimmy Rip (I think?) on guitars... !!!
Any idea who the keyboard player is?
Phil Ashley and Suzie Davis
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Old 12-18-21, 10:13 PM
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Exactly 40 years ago: the pay per view at the end of the 1981 US Tour from HAMPTON, VIRGINIA Dec 18th, 1981.
In those days you had to attach the pay per view box(it was the size of a clock radio..)between the coax cable feed and your tv set. It descrambled the picture & audio on the channel that this ppv concert was to be broadcasted on. You had to actually go to the cable company office to rent the box for the performance and then immediately return it to the cable company within a few days. Most of the major cable providers offered this ppv event. The crazy thing is some rural cities/towns out in the stix had service from the biggie cable company and they offered it, and some cities/municipalities had a third rate minor cable player that didn't offer it. The other factor was that demand for this event exceeded the supply of available ppv boxes by maybe as much as fifteen to one. The concert was also broadcast live (simulcast) FREE over hundreds of stereo FM radio stations in the United States, so if you didn't have the pay per view, you could hear it live in it's entirety. Obviously, this concert became supremely popular in bootleg form in both albums & cassettes, as well as VHS & BETA. It is fifty times better than the "Let's Spend The Night Together' concert movie, which is plagued with a poor audio mix, and camera shots & editing that really only show Jagger. The performance at the Meadowlands & Tempe where Let's Spend... was filmed is excellent, and the audio is clear but obviously an idiot did the audio mix which is not how the concert sounded to the fans in the audience, and it becomes incredibly boring that the camera angles capture Jagger exclusively and with the bad audio mix, it (lets spend...FILM) is a pile of dog doo that isn't worth watching. Let's Spend The Night Together film's director was a bigger idiot than the moron who produced the audio for the film! HAMPTON ppv vhs bootleg taped here by a fan at home who rented the pay per view event, is fantastic where Let's Spend ... is a really stinky turd! The Rolling Stones finally officially issued HAMPTON 12-18-81 about fifteen years ago for the first time as a FREE DOWNLOAD to fans. They have since packaged it in physical media form and offered it for sale to fans in the past five years or so. Okay, now what you are about to see here in this YOUTUBE below is the raw, home ppv, videotaped on beta or vhs FROM the moment that the ppv box went live.. There are about ten minutes from when the ppv box went live, where the Stones are backstage and George Thorogood and The Destroyers are nearing the end of their set(YOU DON'T SEE THAT..........you'll see random foolishness with the folks operating the live cameras backstage for a few minutes, etc, then you do go to the live stage cameras and audio during the last song "Reelin & Rockin" by Thorogood as they attempt to dial in the necessary audio levels & clarity for when the Stones come on. So you see George do a great Reelin & Rockin and then he comes off stage, backstage greets & says hi to Keef & Woodie.....then you have just random camera foolishness capturing the minutes before the Stones go on stage. There may be a number of minutes that are edited out on this person's video upload of the backstage before going on, but you get the picture of how it was, and other than that this is a faithful home videotaper's capture of the pay per view from DEC 18th, 1981 in HAMPTON VIRGINIA. It was the entire show on the youtube upload, lets hope that songs haven't been forcefully removed due to (c).
I will say this that Black Limousine is spectacular here and the nearly 6 minute Just My Imagination is one of the best of the tour. JJFlash is incredible, and this is the show where the fan jumps past security and gets on stage during Satisfaction and Keef hits him with the Tele, and then the security roadies swiftly capture him and he is taken to jail. No lie, Keef bails the kid out of jail after the concert. You do have to remember that it was just 12 months after John Lennon was assassinated and about eight months after Pres Reagan was shot, so you couldn't assume anything harmless like you would have before then. There are many other tremendous live versions of other songs that were in this Hampton 12-18-81 show........ The third song, Lets spend the night together, is on the STILL LIFE album is from Hampton.....you know the "welcome Hampton, welcome to everyone at home watching on tv, smokin a few joints, drinkin a few beers, at home with ya arright......
--------------12-18-81 HAMPTON VA concert:






HERE ARE two of the Fifteen or so Stones concerts that I've witnessed in person that were spectacular performances:
BOTH ARE stereophonic AUDIENCE AUDIO RECORDINGS made with SONY minidisc stereo recorders and tiny electret condenser stereo mics (panasonic type lapel mics)

OCT 10, 1997 Ericsson Stadium CHARLOTTE NC entire concert stereo audience recording (AUDIO)



OCT 26, 2002 Turner Field ATLANTA GA entire concert stereo audience recording (AUDIO)



FEB 18, 2006 Copacabana Beach, Rio de Janeiro Brasil possibly the largest ever attendance for any single concert or event ever
this one is disk2(dvd2)of biggestbang (OFFICIAL 4 dvd release..)
https://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/19/w...-carnival.html



Anybody remember the Spanish STICKY FINGERS Lp that had the can instead of zipper cover. General Franco didn't approve of Sister Morphine so that Spanish Lp had the live version of LET IT ROCK from the live fm radio broadcast from LEEDS ENGLAND March 13, 1971.
......a long time favorite bootleg because their performance is smokin in Leeds on March 13th........the next day at the London Roundhouse, Jagger sounds drunk and they aren't nearly as sharp........................
LEEDS ENGLAND March 13th, 1971




Everybody between about 60 and 70 years old will remember the King Biscuit Flower hour radio Concert program that started about 1972. Well in Sept 1974 and Nov 1974 about at Thanksgiving the KBFH had two biscuit programs that aired LIVE CONCERT RECORDINGS made at Forest National, Brussels Belgium OCT 17, 1973 1st show and a few songs from Empire Pool Wembley LONDON Sept 9, 1973. ( Gimme Sh, Doo Doo Doo Heartbreak., Happy & Street Fightin... are WEMBLEY Sept 9th, 1973 AND THE rest is from the 1st show on OCT 17, 1973 in BRUSSELS BELGIUM)
-----Now the Stones in the past decade have released a FREE DOWNLOAD of the 2nd Show from Oct 17th and later a for sale physical media version.

THE YOU CAN'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT and MIDNIGHT RAMBLER versions from the Biscuit tapes of the 10-17-73 1st show ARE UNBELIEVABLE !!!!!!

Here you can see for yourself, the first link below is the Biscuit's 10-17-73 1st show YOU CAN'T and the one below that is the 10-17-73 2nd show version.
THE 1st show was obviously a Better performance, and that is why the KBFH used the 1st show.......It was widely reported that Jagger himself helped supervise the Biscuit transcription release product for radio (r2r & lp which were never usually returned by most rock radio dee-jays...although the syndication contract called for and specified that the tapes & transcription disks be returned......nobody ever did and folks working at the station got a collector's item for their personal collection...)

10-17-73 1st show YOU CAN't Always (King Biscuit program aired in 1974)



10-17-73 2nd show released in 2010's by Rolling Stones as free download and then for sale in physical media.....it is from the tape of 2nd show also recorded for possible biscuit use..........You have 40+years of mixing and production that you didn't then... YOU MUST REALIZE THAT THE old biscuit DID THINGS VERY SIMPLE AND QUICK IN ORDER TO GET THE PROGRAM TO FM stations each week, SO THEY DID VERY LITTLE OR NO TEST PRESSINGS, or TEST MIXES OR THAT KIND OF THING, so this 2nd show here as released by the stones has better drum sound and such but the tapes themselves are about the exact same in sound quality, it is just that doing the quick turnaround to press the live stuff on an LP like the biscuit did in those days, you had to sacrifice some significant bass (roll it off) and other compromises to get it to sound okay on LP, if they had been exclusively using Tape transcription, they would have been able not to neuter the sound as you don't need to compromise the sound to make it work as you do for LP pressing to insure clarity and that the needle would stay in the groove.

10-17-73 2nd show You Can't


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Old 12-20-21, 02:13 AM
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10-29-64 T.A.M.I. show



I DON'T KNOW THE REASONS WHY (1969 unreleased)





Wild Horses Paradiso Theatre, AMSTERDAM May 26, 1995


Can't You Hear Me Knocking GLASTONBURY Festival June 29, 2013 Mick Taylor is along for the ride on this one



Here are more of midiman nz 's great work with great stereo audience audio recording and multiple audience video sources compiled/edited/joined of LAS VEGAS show on Nov 6th 2021 & of the ATLANTA show on NOV 11th 2021

Allegiant Stadium LAS VEGAS Nov 6, 2021 entire concert GREAT AUDIENCE AUDIO RECORDED STEREO SOUND & EXCELLENT AUDIENCE VIDEO midiman nz


Mercedes-Benz Stadium ATLANTA NOV 11, 2021 entire concert GREAT AUDIENCE AUDIO RECORDED STEREO SOUND & GOOD AUDIENCE VIDEO midiman nz


Mercedes-Benz Stadium ATLANTA NOV 11, 2021 entire concert very good video and audio from the audience seat of Ed B




This one aired live on Brazilian television, and somebody videotaped the broadcast.......the mix and sound quality is perfect, live camera work is good, and so is the Rolling Stones' performance there in Rio de Janeiro on Feb 4, 1995 at the Estadio Maracana

Estadio Maracana, RIO de JANEIRO, BRASIL FEB 4, 1995 entire concert

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Wild Horses Paradiso Theatre, AMSTERDAM May 26, 1995
"Let's do some living after love dies" ?!?!?

Ugh, talk about totally altering the meaning and impact of a lyric with just a single word change.
Nice to hear Keith singing the backing vox on that number though.
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