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Old 02-06-22, 09:19 AM
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A word of warning

The wife and I went on a road trip out to Charleston yesterday. It was a great trip and we had a good time all around, aside from one experience that I would like to share.

We stopped in for gas at Joe's Kwik Marts Exxon at 8976 University Blvd, North Charleston, SC 29406 to pump some gas for our return trip home. I got finished pumping the gas and the pump stated "see cashier for receipt". I probably would not have thought another thing about it and hopped in the car to leave. Wifey says hang on a minute, she is on the phone.

Right when I finished pumping an alert came up on the mobile app from our bank both in question to the amount and location of the charge. This is 300 miles from home. I had pumped right around $40.46 into the car and there was a charge for $91 which the notification went off for. I was in the Audi. It cannot hold that much gas, and neither can our truck. She handed me the notification on the screen of her phone and I walked inside to be greeted by the urban eyelash queen at the counter with this feigned surprise and "oh, I have never heard of such a thing". She walked in the back and assumably pretended to call the owner of the location to "see what was wrong". I spent a few minutes inside and eventually got her to print me a physical receipt and asked for a phone number to the owner of the store. I looked it up later and she gave me the generic number for the location, not the owner...
After our discussion I kept a copy of the receipt, the number and address of the location and we leave. I let the clerk know that I would be talking to the owner (assuming I can get in touch with them) and the authorities. Just about the time I get back to the car there is an amended charge for the actual amount on the receipt.

If my wife hadn't been with me and gotten (as well as paid attention to) that alert and phone call, I would not have known anything. By the time I (later) went through my charges and hadn't walked in to get a physical receipt there would have been nothing to be done about it, no way to prove anything. I have not ever been aware of such a happening. I do know that most gas stations will run a "check" on your card and will see a pending dollar charge before authorization and pumping. I would make assumptions that this has never happened, and we keep a pretty close eye on the charges as they come through.
I am going to rethink my habit of not getting receipts from the gas pump and keep a closer eye on this situation. I would imagine that if this is an ongoing thing with this (or any other) station that there has been quite a lucrative situation ongoing so far as a bonus for jockeying the counter there.
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Old 02-06-22, 09:33 AM
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Happened to me in N Dakota but got two separate identical charges and explained that to the credit card company. They agreed since it was obvious what happened. In this case it looked like a computer glitch. In your case looks like they were trying to rip you off.
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Old 02-06-22, 09:59 AM
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Happened to me in N Dakota but got two separate identical charges and explained that to the credit card company. They agreed since it was obvious what happened. In this case it looked like a computer glitch. In your case looks like they were trying to rip you off.
Honestly, I would have thought it a mistake as well until I went in and gauged the reaction. It was absolutely 110% obvious that some ongoing scam is happening here. The whole "go in the back to call the owner" might even have been convincing if she picked up the phone. There was a (multi line) phone hanging directly behind her and it never lit up. She wasn't putting her cell back in pocket when she came around the corner either....I have to wait till tomorrow to do any follow up. We have already contacted card services for Visa and they are going to look into it. I am calling corporate and also going to check who is in charge of gas pumps and licensure in SC. Here it is the Insurance Commissioner IIRC.
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Old 02-06-22, 09:59 AM
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Would this be a "skimmer" situation? Granted, skimming typically adds tiny amounts...not ~double the transaction amount.
Thanks for sharing.
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Old 02-06-22, 10:10 AM
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Would this be a "skimmer" situation? Granted, skimming typically adds tiny amounts...not ~double the transaction amount.
Thanks for sharing.
I don't believe so, in that the original and amended charge came from the corporate name of the Joe's location. I always check for them, not that I am an expert, but this was one of the 'lock your card in" types and the green and orange lock/unlock lights and screen dialog matched.
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Old 02-06-22, 10:14 AM
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So much for a card being handier than greenbacks.
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I've had identical charges show up on the bill - making it look like I filled up twice for the same amount - it was no problem to get the card issuer to fix it, and I do think it was a mistake, but maybe a bit shady ( "oh, your card didn't go through, please swipe again" ).
But your case sounds like it was the cashier doing something shady, probably without the owner even knowing.

To stay on top of this kind of issue, you have to know how the crooks work... thanks for the warning.
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What’s an “urban eyelash queen”?
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
What’s an “urban eyelash queen”?

Like, extraordinarily long touch the forehead type (fake) eyelashes. Usually in symphony with super long fake nails and super long fake hair.
Extremely popular in the 'burbs and such.
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Old 02-06-22, 10:44 PM
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Like, extraordinarily long touch the forehead type (fake) eyelashes. Usually in symphony with super long fake nails and super long fake hair.
Extremely popular in the 'burbs and such.
I saw a few at the TOOL concert in San Antonio a few days ago. Used the family bathroom no I wasn’t watching just having a beer near the facilities lol. But whatever all us weirdos are accepted at concerts even the freaks that ride bikes.
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Yeah, I've activated phone notifications of every transaction on my bank and card, no matter how small. Too many shenanigans going on nowadays.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
What’s an “urban eyelash queen”?
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post

This is a bit more along the lines of "missed my hair appointment got hit by a car on the way" type version. Typically, FAR more glamourous, but the eyelashes are there.
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Originally Posted by Juan Foote View Post
This is a bit more along the lines of "missed my hair appointment got hit by a car on the way" type version. Typically, FAR more glamourous, but the eyelashes are there.
Now I am blind! and afraid. Hopefully whatever that is will not be on my afternoon bike route. Saw a bunch of those in New Orleans.
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<shudders>

I was thinking more someone along the lines of Mimi.
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It had occurred to me to reference Tammy Faye, but her situation is tamed in comparison to this new madness.
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Once a year, when I ride my bike to the station for a gallon of gas for the leaf blower, it seems someone filling up his car always makes a "joke" about my vintage Motobécane being gas powered.

The last time I did it, I remember the digital readout telling me to go inside for the receipt. With my beautiful bike in tow, I didn't really want to, but I dragged inside my bike and the gallon anyway. The Middle Eastern guy asked me the number of the pump. I didn't know, but I told him, "it's only a gallon. Don't you know the number?" He didn't. We stood there for a second just looking at each other. I looked out the window trying to figure out which pump it was. I didn't want to be forced to manage another exit and entrance again. So I just left.

I read in California they're banning gas powered leaf blowers. I almost wish they would do that here.
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Once a year, when I ride my bike to the station for a gallon of gas for the leaf blower, it seems someone filling up his car always makes a "joke" about my vintage Motobécane being gas powered.

The last time I did it, I remember the digital readout telling me to go inside for the receipt. With my beautiful bike in tow, I didn't really want to, but I dragged inside my bike and the gallon anyway. The Middle Eastern guy asked me the number of the pump. I didn't know, but I told him, "it's only a gallon. Don't you know the number?" He didn't. We stood there for a second just looking at each other. I looked out the window trying to figure out which pump it was. I didn't want to be forced to manage another exit and entrance again. So I just left.

I read in California they're banning gas powered leaf blowers. I almost wish they would do that here.
Why not ride your bike to a hardware store and get a rake?
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
Once a year, when I ride my bike to the station for a gallon of gas for the leaf blower, it seems someone filling up his car always makes a "joke" about my vintage Motobécane being gas powered.

The last time I did it, I remember the digital readout telling me to go inside for the receipt. With my beautiful bike in tow, I didn't really want to, but I dragged inside my bike and the gallon anyway. The Middle Eastern guy asked me the number of the pump. I didn't know, but I told him, "it's only a gallon. Don't you know the number?" He didn't. We stood there for a second just looking at each other. I looked out the window trying to figure out which pump it was. I didn't want to be forced to manage another exit and entrance again. So I just left.

I read in California they're banning gas powered leaf blowers. I almost wish they would do that here.
Lol, I "blow" my leaves with the riding lawn mower. I have one of those electric blowers that is useful for blowing dust out of a computer and that's about it.

I rake the leaves from the beds and then ride the mower facing a specific direction to the edge of woods and/or around trees.
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Why not ride your bike to a hardware store and get a rake?
Super thoughtful advice.
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A Word of Warning.

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...if I reference my wife as, "the wife", she punches me. Pretty hard, too.
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...if I reference my wife as, "the wife", she punches me. Pretty hard, too.

Maybe replace "the" with "my loving/darling/beautiful" etc. Typically speaking the response is far better that way. You have to appeal to that emotional side.
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
Super thoughtful advice.
Yes though I never experienced much drama around here when I ride my bike to purchase a gallon of gas for my push gas lawn mower.
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Yes though I never experienced much drama around here when I ride my bike to purchase a gallon of gas for my push gas lawn mower.
Yeah, my post above was super dramatic. Should be made into a Lifetime movie of the week.
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But your case sounds like it was the cashier doing something shady, probably without the owner even knowing.
Wouldn't the owner notice pretty quickly that the books aren't matching? It's not like credit card transactions don't produce records that I would think would have to be reconciled with the point-of-sale...
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