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Old 06-21-22, 12:59 PM
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Not sure, but my guess was, shens="I call shenanigans"?
winner winner chicken dinner
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Old 06-22-22, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Juan Foote View Post
winner winner chicken dinner
Is "shen" defined in the Linux users' glossary, or did you dream up a new word just to befuddle Foosters who read and write in English?
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Old 06-22-22, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
Is "shen" defined in the Linux users' glossary, or did you dream up a new word just to befuddle Foosters who read and write in English?

Ha ha, no it was a common saying on a paintball forum I used to be very active on. Pics or shens was the polite way to say "calling your ********".
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Old 06-22-22, 09:13 AM
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or what we boomers around here say like "pics or it didn't happen"
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
...older programs such as WordStar and other relics of a bygone day.
I remember WordStar from my early days on cp/m.

Dot commands! I bet I can remember some...
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Here's a couple regedit keys that will fix your computer to Win10 and block it from upgrading to Win11

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...d-0834d552ca83

although that doesn't address the larger industry/market level problem of PC hardware manufacturers being in cahoots with Windoze to make life harder for Linux
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Old 06-23-22, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearhawker View Post
I remember WordStar from my early days on cp/m.

Dot commands! I bet I can remember some...
Oh Gawd... going from CPM to DOS, and WS to WP and then WP for Win, (and all the damned early variants of Win and that little sidetracks to OS/2 and NT) and then eventually to Word. Sheesh... no wonder I can't put anything else into my abused brain...

Ctrl KD done.

BTW a similar track, for me has been AutoCAD... I learned in DOS... (using a green monochrome screen). I still type in the commands... even on a win 10 modern version with all those clickable icons.
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I havenít used a desktop in years. Everything is I pad I phone these days.
My Poco F3 (and sometimes my backup X3 Pro) is practically the office I work out of; It's what I do all my translation and editing work on. I fire up my 11-year-old Latitude with 2nd-gen i7 only if I need to do some PowerPoint/Excel work, which is extremely rare. I have a separate SSD in the desk drawer with Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, and Xubuntu installed on partitions, ready to go at any time with a simple drive swap.
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TPM always seemed like a gimmick to me. "We're gonna take this cryptography code and move it to its own chip! Instead of it's not supposed to leave its process, now it's not supposed to leave its chip!" I'm sure I'm missing something and the devil is in the details.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
Don't know about W95 but I keep a desktop with XP available when I want to work on Excel or Word documents with Office 2000 (no dang ribbon but real honest to gosh menu system) which I like much better than newer versions which offer me few benefits and for which I have many macros that do just what I want. The XP machine is also useful for working with older WordPerfect documents and documents written with older programs such as WordStar and other relics of a bygone day. Firefox still works and some sites are still functional such as the The Internet Archive; others like YouTube not at all. AVG anti virus program still updates its definitions for XP. I don't use the XP machine for Internet browsing though since I have W7 and W10 machines which like the Internet much better than XP.

BTW what are "shens?"
I keep a dual boot Win95/XP going to run AutoCAD 2000 and like you, love that Excel. I have a Win7 machine with the cheap starter version of Excel and Word. I basically don't like how they operate and spending real money for the full version doesn't appeal to me. Now the machine I'm on is a Win10 laptop. Love the Internet connection but it seems that to run Excel or Word, everything I do would be under Microsoft surveillance (and hence available to the Feds wit an oh-so-easy-to-get warrant and probably a popular hacking target).
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Originally Posted by genec View Post
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BTW a similar track, for me has been AutoCAD... I learned in DOS... (using a green monochrome screen). I still type in the commands... even on a win 10 modern version with all those clickable icons.
I started with ACAD 8. Remember the even numbered ones being the good ones and the odds ones to stay away from. Did 8, 10, 12 and 2000 (with early but usable 3-d and solids). My house is in 3-D. Very useful!

We were doing green long before green was cool. I removed the icon panel from my AutoCAD. I want a big screen!
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney View Post
I keep a dual boot Win95/XP going to run AutoCAD 2000 and like you, love that Excel. I have a Win7 machine with the cheap starter version of Excel and Word. I basically don't like how they operate and spending real money for the full version doesn't appeal to me. Now the machine I'm on is a Win10 laptop. Love the Internet connection but it seems that to run Excel or Word, everything I do would be under Microsoft surveillance (and hence available to the Feds wit an oh-so-easy-to-get warrant and probably a popular hacking target).
Why do you say that?
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
TPM always seemed like a gimmick to me. "We're gonna take this cryptography code and move it to its own chip! Instead of it's not supposed to leave its process, now it's not supposed to leave its chip!" I'm sure I'm missing something and the devil is in the details.
And likely some hacker will find a software way to usurp it.
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney View Post
I keep a dual boot Win95/XP going to run AutoCAD 2000 and like you, love that Excel. I have a Win7 machine with the cheap starter version of Excel and Word. I basically don't like how they operate and spending real money for the full version doesn't appeal to me. Now the machine I'm on is a Win10 laptop. Love the Internet connection but it seems that to run Excel or Word, everything I do would be under Microsoft surveillance (and hence available to the Feds wit an oh-so-easy-to-get warrant and probably a popular hacking target).
They don't need a warrant if the data is for sale
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney View Post
Love the Internet connection but it seems that to run Excel or Word, everything I do would be under Microsoft surveillance (and hence available to the Feds wit an oh-so-easy-to-get warrant and probably a popular hacking target).
What are you doing in Word and Excel that the feds not seeing it is part of your decision making process?
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Originally Posted by Bearhawker View Post
They don't need a warrant if the data is for sale
Do you think Microsoft sells 79's Word documents?
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Do you think Microsoft sells 79's Word documents?
I think MS would try to sell you
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When will Microsoft make something that doesn't suck? . . . . . . . . . . . . . When they make a vacuum cleaner.
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Originally Posted by Bearhawker View Post
I think MS would try to sell you
They paid me very well. Shrugs.
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I'm less worried about Windows 11 than I am about Microsoft's founder becoming America’s largest agricultural landowner.
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I'm less worried about Windows 11 than I am about Microsoft's founder becoming Americaís largest agricultural landowner.
That's probably a good thing - it'll go a long way to tackle the obesity problem in America. With Old Bill in charge of America's farms, every bottle of corn syrup will have a message printed on the label that says, "are you sure you want to quit?" with "OK" and "cancel" buttons on the lid.
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I'm less worried about Windows 11 than I am about Microsoft's founder becoming Americaís largest agricultural landowner.
He's putting 5G vaccine in the corn!
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I’m still on Windows 95.
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I used to keep the CAB files on a Fat32 drive. If I got a virus from some bad website I'd just format and spring 'em. I used to keep a drive of 95B and another of a MS2000 Beta called NT5. The beta OS had no drivers for much yet. I did that for awhile until I broke down and bought some XP.
I have a related legit question to ask the more computer literate Foosters.

I would like to install Win 95 on a spare desktop on hand that currently works fine with its installed WinXP. The purpose is for running several old DOS programs, WordStar and Wordperfect 5.1, as well as Word Perfect 5.2 for Windows and Word 2.0 for Windows. This is just for my own amusement and the computer will not be connected to the Internet. I would like the desktop to still be able to use the USB and CD data inputs as well as the mouse. Is there any way to install Win 95 on a computer that already has XP loaded without mucking up the usability of the computer to operate those relatively simple (by today's standards) programs and tasks. I have the install software for all the programs I would like to use on this computer. The computer is a Dell Optiplex GX 520.

Thanks for any help.
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I have a related legit question to ask the more computer literate Foosters.

I would like to install Win 95 on a spare desktop on hand that currently works fine with its installed WinXP. The purpose is for running several old DOS programs, WordStar and Wordperfect 5.1, as well as Word Perfect 5.2 for Windows and Word 2.0 for Windows. This is just for my own amusement and the computer will not be connected to the Internet. I would like the desktop to still be able to use the USB and CD data inputs as well as the mouse. Is there any way to install Win 95 on a computer that already has XP loaded without mucking up the usability of the computer to operate those relatively simple (by today's standards) programs and tasks. I have the install software for all the programs I would like to use on this computer. The computer is a Dell Optiplex GX.
For starters, you will need to re-format the hard drive, since Windows 95/98 does not work on an NTFS formatted drive, which is what Windows XT uses. If you have the original release of Windows 95, it will have to be a FAT16 formatted hard drive, which means that the largest partition will be 2 GB, and if the drive is larger, you will need multiple partitions. Also, if you have the original release of Windows 95, you will not be able to access the USB ports. Finally, the original issue of Windows 95 is very unstable, such that you will find yourself constantly having to re-install it. Unfortunately, it is not possible to upgrade or purchase Windows 95 Release 2, since it was only made available as OEM installations. If you can get your hands on Windows 98, then you will be able to format the hard drive as FAT32 with a maximum partition size of at least 32 Gb and use third party drivers to fully access the USB ports (Win 98 does not natively support USB). Also, Windows 98 is much more stable than Windows 95.
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