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Old 09-10-05, 08:51 PM
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Grr Florida...the "Hi I'm a snake that's eating your toe!" state

Yeah I just got owned by a puny-arse unknwon snake.

I was away from home for a week, and just got home today.

I was sitting at my PC when suddenly something nailed my toe. Of course I shrieked like a pansy and once I saw that little freak run back into it's hiding spot...it was so ON!

Well it's about a 10" snake....little is relative. Quick and aggressive as hell too, and the tail wagging when it's about to strike was freaking me out. That thing would not stop striking even for a second.

Hammer and channel-lock pliers later, I caught the snake...a few seconds int he tub with a razor knife, I managed to kill it so I could get a look at what's in it's mouth....no fangs thank god.

so here I am, somewhat frazzled, and wondering WTH that snake is, and if I have to worry about any larger intruders.

For what it's worth, it had a white bottom, pinkish body with mixed yellow markings on it's back (splotches and stripes), rounded head, no visible pits, reddish eyes. Scales were very tight...they feel the same rubbing up as down....which makes me think it's a hatchling of some type, but google has failed me.
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catatonic...are you still there??? Youre not laying on the floor twitching now are you? You sure that thing isnt poisonous? No fangs though huh? Must have been a baby. I would maybe find out what the hell it is in case momma is in the house too!!! Glad to hear you survived your wild kingdom encounter!
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Yeah I'm still here...

The markings it had were not consistant with any poisinous breed I could find, plus it had no fangs at all..couldn't even see teeth...I think it gummed me.

I still have the snake and will be keeping it for the weekend incase things go south though.

Hunt for momma is tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by catatonic
Yeah I'm still here...

The markings it had were not consistant with any poisinous breed I could find, plus it had no fangs at all..couldn't even see teeth...I think it gummed me.

I still have the snake and will be keeping it for the weekend incase things go south though.

Hunt for momma is tomorrow.
If recollection serves, down there the deep, deep south they got three or four types of poisonous snakes...coral snakes -(colorful, DEADLY, but usually docile), cottonmouths, eastern diamond back rattlers and copperheads. The last three are from the pit-viper family and the juveniles may not resemble the matured adults in their markings fyi
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Yep, however hatchling coral snakes, still have the colored bands.

And this was definately not a pit viper, from looking at it's head.

I'm just curious as what it is more than if I am going to get sick. It helps with having to find "momma".
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it was probably just a "garden" variety "garden" snake.

pun intended.

but seriously if it had no fangs the worse thing that could happen would be infection, and you should be able to tell if the bite is infected pretty fast.
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Yeaah..actually one thing I miss liven in the city is cool stuff like snakes and such..back when I lived down south in Va. I was big into being a nature boy -frolicking with 7-foot viscious black rat snakes, snapping turtles, box turtles -all that cool stuff. I used to get bit by those rat snakes half-a-dozen times when I'd reach into the wood duck nest boxes to remove them. Oh yeah, those were the days
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Old 09-10-05, 10:43 PM
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If it's a garden snake, all is well, since that means that there's probably no mamma to worry about.

I'm still a bit nervous being at the desk...it's in a cubby, so there's some nice hiding spots for a potential toe-biter.

Heh, this is how I get welcomed home after a vacation...sheesh. Next time the snakes better know better and have a sexy model or something waiting for me...then I'd let it gum my toe all it wants....


....that sounded so wrong
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LOL...sorry had to get a laugh out!
Glad you're still responding.
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Isn't there some kind of nature center, wildlife animal management center or county extention of the local college you could go to for assistance? How about a pet store that does a good snake trade?
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Originally Posted by Stacey
Isn't there some kind of nature center, wildlife animal management center or county extention of the local college you could go to for assistance? How about a pet store that does a good snake trade?
Yeah....you could call "Nature's Classroom" and see if they could help you identify it. They are over in Tampa near USF.



Yup....lots of snakes in this state...that's for sure. When I was a kid my dad walked into my brother and I's bedroom to check on us right after we went to bed. So there I am looking at my dad's sillouette in the doorframe when I hear him start yelling for my mom to bring the coffee can. She yells "but its full of coffee" and he frantically screams "then empty it G-D-it!!!".

Long story, short, he had stepped on a small coiled snake with his bare feet and managed to perfectly trap its head when he did so. He was then afraid to move his feat because he couldn't see what kind of snake it was and he couldn't reach the light switch. When my mom came in, turned on the light and he caught the snake in the coffee can, it turned out to be a baby rattler snake that had somehow found its way into our bedroom.
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- go here for an on-line guide to Fla. snakes

- rat snake or juvenile racer would be my guess...

- main discerning points are eyes (vertical slits = bad; round = generally OK)

- almost ran over a coral snake a couple months ago; had a five foot black racer run through my legs in the back yard while trimming the hedge; had a young racer get trapped on the lanai (and even though not venomous, they will 'whap' their tails as if shaking a rattle); saw a beautiful bright scarlet red snake in the back last month...

- snakes in Fla. are really good - they eat roof rats - and without the snakes here on the peninsula we'd be overrun with rats...

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I was pretty much thinking rat or corn snake, but WTF is a corn snake doing in FL.....it's like the chewbacca defense

Oh well I checked the apartment, no more scaly critters. Man that was a good scare though...I'd post a video of the look on my face if I had one. Never expected it, so I shrieked really bad when I got it....probably the biggest overreaction ever.
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Rat snakes are quite prevalent in Alabama. I don't think they grow to be 10' long, but I may be wrong. I found one in the pool once and the vet ID'd it for me. I've since found 2 or 3 more and they were each around 18". The vet said they're aggressive and will bite and if they bite you it will hurt, but they are not poisonous. The ones in a strike position that I saw were switching their tail.
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Oops! Misread your post. 10" sounds about right for a rat snake.

That spoils my mental image of a 10' snake slithering around in your house.

Glad you're ok.
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LOL, if it was a 10ft snake, I would have went to the super-walmart and came back with a machete, hatchet, and a garbage can lid for a shield, and went after him like a drunkard that thinks he's one of arthur's knights!
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Originally Posted by catatonic
LOL, if it was a 10ft snake, I would have went to the super-walmart and came back with a machete, hatchet, and a garbage can lid for a shield, and went after him like a drunkard that thinks he's one of arthur's knights!
LOL,

Yesterday I was riding and I didnt notice this thing on the road till about 5 secs. before hitting it and I was like "Oh crap thats a snake!" Then iw as able to swerve before hitting it, but I didnt want it to like jump at me and give me Ebola virus or something like that!
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I wonder if it could be a juvenile "black racer":
http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/natsci/herp...ercpriapus.htm

They are splotched looking, shake their tail like a rattlesnake, and are pretty aggressive when threatened.
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Originally Posted by hi565
LOL,

Yesterday I was riding and I didnt notice this thing on the road till about 5 secs. before hitting it and I was like "Oh crap thats a snake!" Then iw as able to swerve before hitting it, but I didnt want it to like jump at me and give me Ebola virus or something like that!
Ha ha.

I've run over live snakes and every time I get scared the thing will fly up and over my back wheel and hit me in the back like water from a wet road. That's impossible, right?
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Originally Posted by Moonshot
Ha ha.

I've run over live snakes and every time I get scared the thing will fly up and over my back wheel and hit me in the back like water from a wet road. That's impossible, right?
Umm... Yah.....Impossible..... Yah Impossible, would never happen!
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Originally Posted by Moonshot
Ha ha.

I've run over live snakes and every time I get scared the thing will fly up and over my back wheel and hit me in the back like water from a wet road. That's impossible, right?
I have fenders so I like to think it wouldn't happen. In Sept. the baby snakes are really out around here. Last year I decided to count on one of my rides on one of the more local rail/trails how many there were. In just a little less than one mile I counted 13 of them. I managed to avoid all but one of them.
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Harmless snakes are still masters of the bluff, a little corn snake used the bluff on me and it worked because I was not sure it wasn't a coral snake. So hard to remember exactly in what order those color bands are on a coral.
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I forgot as well, but if you look at the color of the narrow bands, that's the easier way to ID a coral snake. The easiet difference from a coral snake and the OCP snake is the narrow band, since that's the easiest to spot and only going to be one color to boot.
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lmao @ the title.

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If red touches black,
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