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Old 09-13-05, 08:12 AM
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What's up with YOUNG women/men (rant)

"I am kinda involved..."
"I am seeing someone else..."

The perennial statement given to people like late 20something like me, from 18/19 yrs old after the summer break of university 1st year. One of my colleagues put it best when he said, 19yrs old are full of sh*t.

Yah yah, it's my own damn fault in the first place, I have heard all about it. Is that the general concensus with most older people when dating younger folks? Thoughts, experiences (funny or otherwise)?

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Old 09-13-05, 08:27 AM
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Looking back, I was an azzhole when I was 20.


Thinking about it... I still am!
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I think it is about experience. I think most of us can say that we are different now then we were when we were 20-something. I know I can say that. I'm not as b*tchy as I use to be.
You experience this thing called life and your attitude changes. Don't worry it will all past.
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Originally Posted by Stacey
Looking back, I was an azzhole when I was 20.
Thinking about it... I still am!
there is nothing wrong with being an ashole, I am one, and i admit it every single day. I think the problem is transparency and the constantly flip-floping mind of a 20yrs old. I'd tell somebody, okay look this is only for the school year, nothing serious, basically it's for...um...relaxation purposes, when school's over we'd part. Sure if that was said, I don't think I would have been as serious, I would have went out and scored whenever I felt like it. The problem is that wasn't said.

Anyway, before i stick my foot in mymouth, I will shut up...
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Originally Posted by TriEngineer
"I am kinda involved..."
"I am seeing someone else..."

The perennial statement given to people like late 20something like me, from 18/19 yrs old after the summer break of university 1st year. One of my colleagues put it best when he said, 19yrs old are full of sh*t.

Yah yah, it's my own damn fault in the first place, I have heard all about it. Is that the general concensus with most older people when dating younger folks? Thoughts, experiences (funny or otherwise)?

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rant. finally a subject i can rant about. hmm. i don't know about 20 something because even when i was 20 years old the average age of the guy who asked me out of 50 years of age. they old dudes seem to like me. i don't go out with them, but still at 31 the older crowd likes me. 20 year olds didn't like me when i was 20 and still don't. and your colleague who said 19 yr olds are full of sh*t, i think a lot of people are.but oprah does say it is ok for us ladies to date younger men especially in the early 20's. it is ok. but hearing they are full of crap doesn't make me happy. maybe i will be my bike and stay single. (ha ha) i am funny.
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I won't even bother with anybody under 30 anymore. I find most women typically under 30 are still ideallic and thus in the end are b*tchy and unreasonable with their demands. They still think the right guy for them is Prince Charming who is drop dead gorgeous, a perfect gentlman, do nothing but talk about their feelings, do romantic things every day, and spend avery spare minute reminding them how perfect, beautiful, etc... they are.

Generally speaking, after 30, they realize that is not reality and are much more reasonable. Hell....I was probably that way in my 20s too.....I spend my 20s with these perfect ideallic dreams about women.

The other part of it is that many people in general, but even more so under 30, tend to meet someone and ONLY look at them in terms of "long term relationship". If that person doesn't seem to fit their picture for their future husband/wife, they just write them off altogether. That is so bloody stupid! So many good friendships are lost that way.
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but my friends(I tried to say it in french, it just looked weird), I know lots of people who date much older people, with me, it's everybody, whatever age, it's horrible. Just have to remember to myself to stick with people my age...the goals and thoughts are more intuned than some moron hopped on grandioseness

Ooh...this feels good to talk
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Originally Posted by TriEngineer
but my friends(I tried to say it in french, it just looked weird), I know lots of people who date much older people, with me, it's everybody, whatever age, it's horrible. Just have to remember to myself to stick with people my age...the goals and thoughts are more intuned than some moron hopped on grandioseness

Ooh...this feels good to talk
I have had much LESS problems with women my age or slightly older, ONCE I TURNED 30. I wish I'd have dated women in their 30s when I was in my 20s....I'd have been much happier.

You always going to still find the PITA types at any age....I just find the "ratio" of how many are PITA types to be less after 30. It's almost like 30 is a magic number.
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I dunno know. I have heard that younger women like older men because women have a tendency to mature faster then men. I don't date so I really can't comment much more.
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Originally Posted by TriEngineer
The perennial statement given to people like late 20something like me, from 18/19 yrs old after the summer break of university 1st year. One of my colleagues put it best when he said, 19yrs old are full of sh*t.
Not sure I get it - is it that you dated them in their first year, then they broke up with you at the start of second year? And it happened again just now? If so, sorry to hear it. It sucks to be dumped, but at the same time I think it's normal and predictable. People in first year may be more available, because many are leaving behind high-school relationships, but most people are going to have a few both casual and more serious relationships before they settle down into a long-term or permanent arrangement, and kids in their first year of University are mostly not yet at that settle down age/stage. If you are, I think you need to find someone who is also at that commitment-ready, non-time-wasting point in their life, and I wish you good luck
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Originally Posted by KingTermite
still find the <b>PITA</b> types at any age....
a million cool points (1,000,000) for KT for using PITA, second person to use it...

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Speaking from my own experiences and filtering them through the mental sieve of fuzzy recollection...

Think back to when you were a kid... maybe 10-years-old... and you saw a university student. Remember how old they looked to you? How old do these students look now? How old do you look to them?

Most 19-year-olds know what they don't want. They don't want a meaningful relationship.

Thinking back a ways, I wasn't looking for something meaningful from the girls I dated. Maybe I thought I did (I was something of a walking disaster back then). I think what they really wanted, and what I really wanted, was a cinematic relationship... intense, fun, a few thrills, and a satisfying conclusion. Like a Will Smith action/comedy without the explosions, car chases, and guns. Some women may like the explosions and car chases... who knows.

It's entirely probable that the women I dated back then saw nothing of permanent and lasting value in me. And any hint, the slightest whisper, of drama from me, and it was over. And that was probably a good thing. Like I said, I was a bit of a walking disaster.

People in that time in their lives are exploring everything and nothing at the same time. They're learning how to be. They want fun. They want experience. They're busy as all get out. They want freedom. I may be wrong on this, but they may sense that you want to take that freedom away from them. Whether you do or don't makes little difference.

Now it doesn't sound like you want something serious either... otherwise you wouldn't be looking for 19-year-olds. My advice, which is not worth the electrons it's made of, is relax. Have patience. Find a person, not an age group, to date. Have fun. Develop something. You may accidentally find yourself in a great relationship before you know it.

Okay... enough Dr. Phil nonsense.
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not bad, if I had a hat I would tip it...

you are right, I wasn't looking for anything serious, I know she wasn't either, but like you said,
"And any hint, the slightest whisper, of drama from me, and it was over."
IMO, they need to age a little, their self-righteousness is a little too unrealistic for me.

I wonder if they realize that in their later lives.?

edit: nah, who am I kidding, of course they won't.
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Originally Posted by TriEngineer
a million cool points (1,000,000) for KT for using PITA, second person to use it...

signed PITA
You heard it on the internet....so it MUST BE TRUE!!!


BTW....are you sure I'm the "second" person to use it? When did YOU start using it?
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oh yeah I forgot KT, you are ancient...
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Originally Posted by TriEngineer
oh yeah I forgot KT, you are ancient...
Just for that I'm gonna walk with a crooked back all the way to my car after work today.

So....am I surrounded by teeny boppers to be considered ancient at 34?
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Hey, when I was 20, I didn't want Ms. Right, I wanted Ms. Right Now. Breast size and a morally casual attitude topped the list at that age. Yeah, real deep thinker, eh?

Priorities change as age changes, and experience fills in the gaps. I used to think I could rescue troubled young girls from themself. Wrong! I ended up getting dumped on, and blamed for the crass, insensitive acts of every jerk that had walked on them previously. That gets old. I later learned to leave the 'bird with a wing down' types alone. If they can't straighten themself out, you can't do it for them. Trust me - I tried. Painful lesson, learned the hard way. Ouch!

Most people at that age, men and women, are looking for someone that's further along in the personal security department than they are. Looking to find some definition from the partner. I was, and so were the girls I dated, which explains why it didn't last. (me being a socially clumsy oaf probably didn't help matters any, either)

When you're satisfied with yourself, and find someone that's satisfied with themself... and you like each other... get married, quick. That's a rare combination, so if you find it, don't let it slip away.
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How to you get better at riding? Ride with someone who is at a better endurance/speed/fitness level than you.

How do you become a better person (or get laid more often, if that is your bent) Date someone who is more mature, older, smarter, more experienced/promiscuous than yourself.

Young women figure this out a lot quicker than young men. One of the cruel ironies of young adulthood. Then of course biology (and gravity-for us old timers) and then the whole thing switches back to focus on youth.

But there is magic, experience and a trick or two in old bones - don't overlook them, you sick puppies!
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Originally Posted by KingTermite
So....am I surrounded by teeny boppers to be considered ancient at 34?
No comment...

I am 26

The sick thing my friends used to get me when i was dating this youngin was "dude you were in Gr 8 when this girl was in Gr 1 *vomit*
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Sooooo, It gets better? You mean, the girls grow up and aren't self-absorbed drama queens? When does this all happen? I really don't want to wait too long. Tick, tock, tick, tock...


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maybe i will be my bike and stay single. (ha ha) i am funny.
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My girlfriend's half my age and my wife hasn't been born yet... I don't have any complaints about young folks...
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right....
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My girlfriend's half my age and my wife hasn't been born yet... I don't have any complaints about young folks...
hahaha too funny
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Here's how I see things. Everyone goes through stages in life, it's part of growing up. You go through various experiences and everyone's path is different. You have various desires and goals and from events in your own life, you adjust your path. Some people change more than others, but everyone's on a different path and wherever they are in their lives, it's perfectly OK.

Each person's goals in life is different, and you have to accept and respect that. Here's the catch, one does NOT need to "understand" another person in order to "accept" them. Some things are just beyond your understanding and you just have to accept that it's perfectly OK. For example, I will NEVER, EVER understand why some cultures stick gigantic wooden hockey-pucks in their lower lips. What's even more bizarre and beyond understanding is how other people can actually find that ATTRACTIVE !! Yikes! But in my eyes, I fully accept it and it's great!

I like chocolate ice-cream, other people may prefer vanillla or strawberwy. We're different in our desires and goals, but I accept it all as equals. I do not judge other people in any way based upon that. If anything, I try to be observant and understanding to pick up on those differences in others. Then I can deal with them in a way that's effective at getting both our goals accomplished.

Youngin's certainly don't have the same goals and desires as the older folks. Concepts of integrity, commitment to values and ethics, accountability may not be at the same levels as us, and that's OK. I recognize it and deal with them appropriately. I put someone with good communications skills and negotiating ability at the front-counter. Someone else who's more of a loner and is into their head problem-solving, I'll put in the back doing repairs. It's about adjusting YOUR actions to best take advantage of the surrounding environment.

No matter how much you try, no matter how much scream, no matter how much you pout, life will always turn out differently than you hope. Look up George Bernard Shaw's poem on "Circumstances".

Sounds there's some sort of a dating-theme going on here... It's a sick and twisted aspect of human nature that we value highly what is difficult to get and took us a lot of work and devalue and disregard things that come to us easily and freely.

If you worked for 5-years straight saving up for that perfect dream bike with just exactly the components you wanted, set up exactly the way you wanted... you'd really appreciate riding it huh? Then after a month of religiously adjusting it and cleaning it out with Q-tips after every ride, someone was to come along and just give you outright as a present that exact same bike. Now you've got TWO of them wow... So then the hurricane comes along to wipe out your town... you gotta get away and fast! You pack your bags, load up the backpack and can ride only ONE bike out of town... which one will you take? The one that you saved up for 5-years and poured all your sweat and labor into? Or the one you got for free?

Same thing with chics.... give 'em a little taste of what they want... pull it away and make them BEG for more.. heh, heh...

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hahaha, though it had to be said...it's not necessary just girls...
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