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Old 01-14-06, 06:31 PM
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.tar.gz

How the heck do you install these damn things?
I download these programs like "FreeCAD'" http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...group_id=49159
And its just a list of files in archive manager. I have no idea how to install this thing, and its the same deal for a lot of other programs ive tried to download.
How do you go about installing these?
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Un "zip" it, or what ever you call it for those files...

Each program is a bit different, on my mac generally they have an installer type file.
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http://free-cad.sourceforge.net/wiki...CompileOnLinux

for all the details to install it

http://free-cad.sourceforge.net/

Does linux have a porting or appget I think is what they call it. Where you can ftp into something and it downloads and installs all corresponding software? You might want to try using that tool, it will save the hasle of trying to install all of th elittle bits for this one

Ok finding a bit more info (sorry I am a bsd guy not sure of all the linux terms) but this might help with other installs. It also says on that site the directory it is located in.

General tutorials on using tar and how to explode the file, and install the corresponding files. Doesn't apply directly to your program, but its a good start.
http://www.opensourcetutorials.com/t...are/page1.html
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/L...e-install.html
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gz is a zip file (gnu zip). You need a gunzip program to unzip.

Once you unzip, it is now a tar file (tar = tape archive). Its basically a bunch of files in one big file (not zipped). On a *nix system you should have a tar command which can untar the files. It's been YEARS since I did this, but IIRC, the command was tar -xvf filename.tar.
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- downloading source code, eh?

- note how much more efficient the gzip format is compared to lempel-ziv! (IOW, gzip archives are much smaller - and especially efficient at text compression runs)...

- you can roll a UNIX-like environment onto your Windows boxen by using Cygwin (cygwin.org)... you'll get a bash terminal and many, many GNU utilities... install the free X server so you can ssh into a Linux server and launch X clients on your Windows desktop!

- to answer your question... if you don't have a Windows GNU gzip util, download the .zip archive of the source... if you're using a Linux box, download either (Linux distros come with zip and unzip, as well as GNU gzip)....

- to view the contents of a .tgz:

tar tvzf foo.tgz

- if there are too many files to see at once, pipe the output list through the pager command, less:

tar tvzf foo.tgz | less

- to extract the contents of a .tgz:

tar xvzf foo.tgz

- to learn more:

RTFM

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Originally Posted by linux_author
RTFM

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I was waiting for that ...

Its funny phantom and Linux, I haven't been interested in *nix in about 4 years, due to some bosses I had who were microsoft only, I had to exist the arena, I just didn't have time for it. Reading your adventures made me reinstall a bsd box and build from scratch. I forgot how much fun it was using the command line for everything. And all because of you two. Now I am working on some proposals to dump a couple of *soft boxes and replace them for unix.

Anyways, cheers.
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
Now I am working on some proposals to dump a couple of *soft boxes and replace them for unix.
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Fight the Evil Empire™: Use the Source!

Avoid the Hell of Gates: Use Linux!

(the *BSDs are good too; i use NetBSD all the time - great little system)
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I am partial for free for me personally, I will use open for my firewall/gateway when I replace it. Likely have to set it up to work as a vpn as well. ...

I am not quite "microsoft is evil" it has its purposes, a lot of admins just rely on it tooo much ...
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tar zxvf file.tar.gz

Or if you have old tar:
gunzip -c file.tar.gz | tar xvf -

If it's a typical linux program, then:
./configure
make
make install
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I like rpms much more....
I have archive manager, and can easily read all of the files. Its getting them installed thats a different story
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Okay here it is again.
I try to download gzip, of course its not an RPM.
I download this:
ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/mirrors/gn...gzip-1.2.4.tar

I get archive manager to open, showing all of the files. BUt now what?
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Originally Posted by phantomcow2
Okay here it is again.
I try to download gzip, of course its not an RPM.
I download this:
ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/mirrors/gn...gzip-1.2.4.tar

I get archive manager to open, showing all of the files. BUt now what?
Welcome to the real world of computing where compiling and building is the name of the game.

Try this:

Code:
tar -xvf gzip-1.2.4.tar
cd gzip-1.2.4
./configure
make
make install
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And remember to delete the install files when you are done, you don't want to be filling your hd with crap.
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
And remember to delete the install files when you are done, you don't want to be filling your hd with crap.
Yeah. I also usually build all my stuff in /tmp which of course I have set up to be wiped upon reboots or if I happen to need the space. Additionally, my /tmp is memory mapped to swap and backed by swap partitions which makes building faster than if done in a typical filesystem.
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Originally Posted by linux_author
- note how much more efficient the gzip format is compared to lempel-ziv! (IOW, gzip archives are much smaller - and especially efficient at text compression runs)...
gzip is so 1992. Get with the new millenium! Real men bzip2 - much smaller than gz.
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Originally Posted by khuon
Yeah. I also usually build all my stuff in /tmp which of course I have set up to be wiped upon reboots or if I happen to need the space. Additionally, my /tmp is memory mapped to swap and backed by swap partitions which makes building faster than if done in a typical filesystem.
Man that just brought me back to the days when I used to run a ram drive for my bbs software swap file.Wow, been like 15 years since I thought about it haha
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Originally Posted by bkrownd
gzip is so 1992. Get with the new millenium! Real men bzip2 - much smaller than gz.
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