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Old 01-16-06, 11:38 PM
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linux frustrates me. ~*RANT*~

Okay tonight linux has, for the first time. Genuinely, let me down. Or maybe i let it down, either way its frustrating me!
I want to make an image in the GIMP, and it saves as a bin file?
I write a project in open office, and it saves as a file it cant read so i try to go back and i cant get access to it. THe file has a foot on the icon, and just wont read it.
I cant get my floppy drive to work. I try to open, it just wont.
I cant get my webcam to work, this i can live without.
I feel like i have to fight a battle everytime i want to install anything thats not an rpm.
These dependencies are annoying!!

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And ontop of that, a conclusion.

I have installed a rock solid incredibly stable OS on my computer that makes everything harder for you
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Originally Posted by phantomcow2
And ontop of that, a conclusion.

I have installed a rock solid incredibly stable OS on my computer that makes everything harder for you
this must be nice for you.

luckily, you don't seem to have installed the self-righteous attitude rpm . what's more frustrating is that many linux people are so concerned with proving how great they are that they won't admit that their hobby is totally ridiculous for what 100% of people are using their computers for. this goes for the pc vs. apple crowd, also.

I don't have any useful advice, except that if you're experimenting with one machine, I'd keep a "backup" that will always use the stuff you're familiar with, and that has all the software that the rest of the world is using. That way if **** goes down, you're OK and you can get your stuff done.

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I'm wouldn't call my self a computer expert, but I do know a fair amount. I have used Windows my whole life, but when I came to Michigan Tech this year, all the machines they own run Linux. It was a pretty drastic change for someone who has only used Windows his entire life. I still suck at using it and I get frustrated and pissed off almost every time I have to use the computers. Sure it might be more stable or less vulnerable to viruses, etc., but it can be so freakin stupid at times. Just my two cents.
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Originally Posted by Taerom
Sure it might be more stable or less vulnerable to viruses
I don't think this is really true at all. A linux system has to be administered constantly to avoid any vulnerabilities. A system I had once was hacked within a week of being on the net. At least other brands of systems update themselves with a reasonable amount of automation.

As for stability, just like anything else on linux, it's only going to be as good as the time you put into it. If you're very experienced, sure you can build a stable system. If you are not experienced, or you don't have hours upon hours to figure out the right compile switches to use, it won't be stable.

whatever...
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Just shows how little I really know.
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Originally Posted by Taerom
Just shows how little I really know.
I hope it doesn't seem like I'm at all knowledgeable. I know enough that I should avoid linux systems. They aren't for everyone and I, for one, enjoy using my computer more than trying to get it to a place where it can be used.

Sorry, don't mean to sound like I have an axe to grind. Some people feel very strongly that one system is better than another. I feel very strongly that people should use what's best for what they want to do.
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Originally Posted by phantomcow2
I have installed a rock solid incredibly stable OS on my computer that makes everything harder for you
If you don't know what you're doing and don't care to take the time to RTFM and learn, then blame yourself, not the OS.
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Originally Posted by bkrownd
don't care to take the time to RTFM and learn, then blame yourself, not the OS.
Has it not occurred to you that not everyone has the time to spend R'ing TFM? It would be ridiculous for you to make the argument that linux has not made the OP's life harder, since its use necessitates a high level of training.

Just because you can spend the time to figure out the quirks and details to make things work doesn't mean it's a good solution for the average user. Please stop pretending that this makes average users inferior or lazy. It's demeaning and it makes you look like a prick.
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Originally Posted by bennyk
Has it not occurred to you that not everyone has the time to spend R'ing TFM? It would be ridiculous for you to make the argument that linux has not made the OP's life harder, since its use necessitates a high level of training.
There's nothing particularly hard about linux. You either know what you're doing, or you don't. Those who don't can either suck it up and have fun learning, or find an OS more compatible with their need for hand-holding.
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Originally Posted by bkrownd
There's nothing particularly hard about linux. You either know what you're doing, or you don't. Those who don't can either suck it up and have fun learning, or find an OS more compatible with their need for hand-holding.
well, then I guess we're basically agreed.
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Originally Posted by bennyk
I feel very strongly that people should use what's best for what they want to do.
Computer-wise, this is my motto.
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Originally Posted by Taerom
It was a pretty drastic change for someone who has only used Windows his entire life. I still suck at using it and I get frustrated and pissed off almost every time I have to use the computers.
That exactly describes my experience with Windows. It's all about what you're used to, your level of familiarity and comfort. Windows and MacOS are supposed to be easier and more user-friendly but it always takes me three times as long to do anything I want in those environments than it does in a Unix/Unix-like environment. Even linux gives me grief as I come from a Solaris and BSD background.
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Yeah, linux is a mess because there's no cohesive development with a governing body directing the overall evolution. At least with SinOS, BSD, Solaris, MacOS, there was a roadmap plotted out for development. Try Solaris or MacOS, they are the most integrated GUI UNIX systems out there. You can do with a couple of clicks in minutes what would take hours of typing in CLI scripts in linux. Heck, I installed a Mac webcam in my neighbor's bedroom last night and it took me all of 5-minutes. Actually only 1-second to plug it in, no driver install needed, no mknod minor/majors. Just 1 minute to install the software, and another 4 minutes to create and upload a website and she was broadcasting live!
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Actually I do like MacOS although I'm not all that fond of the interface. However, since its adoption of FreeBSD, I can pretty much get around any shortcomings I find with the Aqua interface by dropping into the underpinnings. It's funny though... although linux enjoys a far broader volume of hardware driver support amongst any of the alternative OSes, it has a fairly crappy way of dealing with them. Linux's devfs was an abortion and never really worked right. FreeBSD and Solaris did much better. Solaris has had dynamic device management since the early 1990s and FreeBSD had it since 5.0 which was officially released in 2003 although FreeBSD-CURRENT had it in the codebase for a couple of years prior. It's been a long time since I've actually been required to perform a MAKEDEV.
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- the OP is going through a necessary stage of frustration, and the complaints are valid - but at the same time, point out the strength of Linux and free software:

1. there are no rules - you are free to make your system as reliable or unstable, secure or insecure, easy to use or hard to use as you like

2. you get out of a Linux-based system what you put into it... if you want an easy-to-use system based on a UNIX-like environment, get a Mac OS X box... you will pay for the convenience... on the other hand, if you are willing to invest the time and effort to learn a bit more about your system (and the OS is truly yours - you own any changes you make to the software - unlike Satan's Software®), you will be handsomely rewarded...

3. AFA the original questions:

a. use Save As... in the GIMP to export your image in nearly any graphics format... the dialog has a check box, IIRC, that will set 'use whatever format is designated by the file extension' (i.e., .jpg, .bmp)

b. installing from source is part of a learning process... you're getting the software for free, but it's not free as in 'free beer' - see #2 above... others have pointed out that installing from source can be as simple as:

tar xvzf foo.tgz
cd foo*
./configure
su -c "make install"

c. you may be confusing the GUI with Linux? remember that Linux is the kernel of a an operating system... the thousands of other programs included with the kernel make up a Linux-based OS... this is why there are so many different Linux-based operating system (called distros)...

d. some distros try to be 'too helpful'... for example, i turn off the autofs daemon (a background process that automatically mounts removable media with known file formats) - i don't want the OS to do something for me - i want to control it, not the other way around - that is the true UNIX Way™

:-)

mounting a floppy:

1. insert diskette

2. issue the mount command to have the disk's contents appear at a known place in the file system (usually a subdirectory of /mnt):

mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy

3. list or access the contents:

ls /mnt/floppy

4. eject the floppy (always do so when finished - don't just remove the media!):

umount /mnt/floppy

the same process can work for CDs, DVDs, tape drives, etc...

e. RPM is known for 'dependency Hell'... synaptic and apt-based software management eases the pain... and many folks would really be at a loss with the *BSDs...

:-)

good luck with your journey!
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Okay well i've been more or less happy except these few things. For the most part, installing and configuring things has not been a problem. Generally I have a fair amount of knowledge about this type of thing.
But yesterday I was doing some very basic functions, and its like I have to go through these hoops just to get anywhere. I am sure that theres some configuring to do just to get a floppy drive working, correct?
Its just ridiculous, its like this has to be your life to get ANYWHERE
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I will say though, ive had my computer going for 2 weeks, never a restart. Thats something unusual
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Well, if you're not doing anything with the computer of course it's going to be stable.
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e. RPM is known for 'dependency Hell'... synaptic and apt-based software management eases the pain... and many folks would really be at a loss with the *BSDs...
Actually I would say that package and software management is one of the places where FreeBSD shines over linux. FreeBSD Ports handles dependencies very well. And it's even easier if the portupgrade utilities are installed. You can upgrade... from source... your entire installed software base with one command along with all dependencies both upwards and downwards. Hell, you can even upgrade and rebuild the entire OS from source as well in such a way. But NetBSD on the other hand... well... let's just say that many in that community think that the install program only need to amount to dd and tar. Admittedly, it's gotten a little bit better. They've ported FreeBSD's Ports to NetBSD. Now, if you really want to get to know how an OS works, install (or at least attempt to) NetBSD. You'll quickly learn the underpinnings because you have to. I guess it's like riding a fixed-gear. For extra character building, install NetBSD/Pmax on an almost two-decade old DECstation5000. I run a mix of Solaris, FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD systems. I have a couple of linux boxes for testing and development purposes. I also develop on some embedded platforms using NetBSD, FreeBSD and linux on PPC, x86 and MIPS based SBCs such as the Soekris boxes and MPC750 reference boards. I've also done work in VxWorks, LynxOS and QNX. If you really want to have fun, grab an old LinkSys WRT54G wireless router for about $40 and install linux on it. Embedded and RTOS systems can teach you a lot about systems architecture from both the hardware and software standpoint. For the most part, the stuff at the top (UI) can all be made to look and feel like one-another or something totally different. I mean, how many people realise that their TiVo DVR is running linux?
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Originally Posted by bennyk
this must be nice for you.

luckily, you don't seem to have installed the self-righteous attitude rpm . what's more frustrating is that many linux people are so concerned with proving how great they are that they won't admit that their hobby is totally ridiculous for what 100% of people are using their computers for. this goes for the pc vs. apple crowd, also.
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Whoa....you are as bad as they are. As a fulltime admin and 20 years user of computers (x86 or risc) 100% is pushing the limits of statistics. I bet if you could see ACTUAL statistics of operating systems inclusive of mainframes, servers and networking devices, *nix would be king.

I am stuck in the middle, I believe every os has its place. *nix kick ass for a range of things, desktop usage or standard user usage, not really, not unless you are a real power user and can punch past some of the inherent *nix bugs. I use one as a secondary desktop, partially for fun, but mostly because I built a vpn tunnel into my office and it also works as my firewall gateway, caching proxy. *nix is stable, with stability comes difficulties.

As for dependencies and ease of use for install. Freebsd and openbsd handle them very well. Porting is just plain brilliant. Netbsd on the other hand, uses stand pkging, and while I haven't had issues with dependencies, nothing beats ports that I have seen. Either way good luck. *nix is a chore and takes time to learn. As you get better you will find many tools lacking power in windows, especially on the networking end.

I tried to install netbsd on an old aix box. Netbsd is definately portable. I didn't run into to many problems. But then I just plain didn't know what to do with it, the box was pretty much useless haha
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
Whoa....you are as bad as they are.
heh, I'm not really. I obviously don't know the real statistics of who's using what, and I exaggerated. what you'd have to understand (I'm sure you do already) about O.S. usage percentages is that whatever the percentage of linux systems out there, a large amount of them are ganged together in server rooms, a few are used in very high end graphics, and a few are used as personal machines. the distribution is totally different with Mac or PC machines, where the vast majority are for personal or personal business use.

So one could say that 10% (or whatever) of machines are running linux, but that doesn't even come close to meaning that 10% of users are using it.
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Originally Posted by DannoXYZ
Heck, I installed a Mac webcam in my neighbor's bedroom last night and it took me all of 5-minutes.
does your neighbor know about this?

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Originally Posted by phantomcow2
Okay tonight linux has, for the first time. Genuinely, let me down. Or maybe i let it down, either way its frustrating me!
I want to make an image in the GIMP, and it saves as a bin file?
I write a project in open office, and it saves as a file it cant read so i try to go back and i cant get access to it. THe file has a foot on the icon, and just wont read it.
I cant get my floppy drive to work. I try to open, it just wont.
I cant get my webcam to work, this i can live without.
I feel like i have to fight a battle everytime i want to install anything thats not an rpm.
These dependencies are annoying!!

And I believe it was a full moon last night. Coincidence? Hmmmm!

Good luck, and if you decide to switch back to Windows, remember this lesson from your *NIX experience: use a low-privileged account (a Limited account) for daily-driver stuff, and elevate to Administrator level when you actually need the Admin powers for something.
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Originally Posted by bennyk
heh, I'm not really. I obviously don't know the real statistics of who's using what, and I exaggerated. what you'd have to understand (I'm sure you do already) about O.S. usage percentages is that whatever the percentage of linux systems out there, a large amount of them are ganged together in server rooms, a few are used in very high end graphics, and a few are used as personal machines. the distribution is totally different with Mac or PC machines, where the vast majority are for personal or personal business use.

So one could say that 10% (or whatever) of machines are running linux, but that doesn't even come close to meaning that 10% of users are using it.
I do know those people you are talking about. They can be found posting at slashdot ...

And I believe it was a full moon last night. Coincidence? Hmmmm!

Good luck, and if you decide to switch back to Windows, remember this lesson from your *NIX experience: use a low-privileged account (a Limited account) for daily-driver stuff, and elevate to Administrator level when you actually need the Admin powers for something.
Wise words. Also with windows, regular maintanance, and olny update solid packages. Don't update constantly. Windows can be very stable, I haven't had a crash in 2 years on xp pro and I don't get viruses, period. I won't even go into how stable Server 2003 is when implemented correctly
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