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Old 03-10-06, 06:07 AM
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Am i now considered a bad person?

I am moving to SF at the end of April. I recently purchased a 1999 Jeep Cherokee (XJ). I needed something to pull a trailer for the move (3000mi+), and then also figured a 4x4 would be good for getting to the trailheads in Yosemite and for taking to places like Lake Tahoe. Most of the time the truck will remain parked in an open lot (will be living about 1mi from work), so let's figure less than 6,000mi/yr.

I guess my question is now that i'm an SUV drivin' Californian (well, soon to be anyway), exactly what level of hell will i be burning in? I know i don't hit the untra-exclusive number 9, but i think 7 will be the right temperature, any thoughts?
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OMG U R TOTALLY EVIL

Oh well don't feel bad, My parentsw drive a rav 4 and a full or mid sized Tahoe. They haul tons and tons construction and garden equipment that would not fit on a bike, could not be transproted 100-200 miles fromwhere they purchased it for cheeply and could not fit inside a car.

And I don't think they're going to go to hell . Well they are, but not for that reason
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It's a vehicle for fun and excursions (pun intended). You are using it for what it is intended for, as a work/fun vehicle. Where you become evil is when you use a Hummer (or any other large SUV) for getting to an from work everyday (unless work involves off-road use). It's especially true if you are the sole occupant. They're also good for people who have to haul 4-5 kids and all their sporting/extracurricular equipment--but I still think the minivan is more functional for that purpose--but it's impossible to look cool in a minivan. Man, am I ever sarcastic today!
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So if i buy a Honda Element to haul myself to work I'm considered evil ? What about a 4 door sedan They get about the same gas mileage :S
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Why can't you rent a u-haul truck or a trailer to bring your stuff, and then drive a civic or something around the city?
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Originally Posted by MERTON
you're an evil metrosexual now! *runs*
I am far too much of a 'Bear' to be considered metrosexual (well, 'Bear' minus the whole physical attraction to men part anyway, heh). Besides, i'm in NYC (where do you think Harlem is, anyway?), you can't toss a rat without hitting a metrosexual in this town.

I started this mostly as a joke, so many of us on here flat out bash SUV's without realizing that some of them do serve a purpose. If i could have gotten away with using a toyota echo i would have. An 8 year old truck cost not all that much more than a u-haul would have to move cross country, so it was cost effective, and i will be needing 4x4 when i go into the mountains. I agree, most people do not need an SUV, and for the most part i won't either. At least 95% of the time mine will be parked, and abused the other 5% of course, it's a jeep after all. Even still, i think i shall enjoy my time in hell...
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Originally Posted by BostonFixed
Why can't you rent a u-haul truck or a trailer to bring your stuff, and then drive a civic or something around the city?
have you rented a UHaul truck recently? My parents wanted to rent a Uhaul truck. It was going to cost them over 1k. And they would need it several times. In the end they ended up making trips with the bosses heavy duty disel pickup, 2 trailers sold at depot, a flat bed, their rav4 and the tahoe.

i someimes would like to hit anybody that suggests "renting a uhaul truck" or a trailer.
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Originally Posted by Ubie
exactly what level of hell will i be burning in? I know i don't hit the untra-exclusive number 9, but i think 7 will be the right temperature, any thoughts?
I hope you're on a much better level than 7. If not I'm in trouble since every morning I decide between my V6 Liberty, my Turbo Beetle Conv. and my Harley as to which one I'll take to work that day.

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a friend of mine took a picture of herself in her recently deceased brother's Jeep Liberty. It looks very spacious. If it wasn't made by such a ****ty company that i dislike with great ferfor I'd consider buying one assuming it was near 25mpg .
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Originally Posted by SoonerBent
I hope you're on a much better level than 7. If not I'm in trouble since every morning I decide between my V6 Liberty, my Turbo Beetle Conv. and my Harley as to which one I'll take to work that day.

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Well, there are other factors of course; living in sin, moving to the 'gay hippie capital of the world', disbelief in a christian creator, the list goes on And let's face it, there's no choice there, if you've got to have a motor ride the Harley, should be pushing over 30mpg, right? My old 'zuke GS650 gets nearly 60 if i keep it under 55, and that's nearly 24 years old. That's something else that breaks my heart, that old girl is getting left behind! won't have a place to park her in SF
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I have those problems choosing which vehicle too.
Ooops! Not the red truck today.
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Old 03-10-06, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasGuy
have you rented a UHaul truck recently? My parents wanted to rent a Uhaul truck. It was going to cost them over 1k. And they would need it several times. In the end they ended up making trips with the bosses heavy duty disel pickup, 2 trailers sold at depot, a flat bed, their rav4 and the tahoe.

i someimes would like to hit anybody that suggests "renting a uhaul truck" or a trailer.
Can you imagine what the "return fees" would be to drive a U-Haul one way, across the country?

It boggles the mind.
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Old 03-10-06, 01:05 PM
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I wouldn't even imagine. All i know is Uhaul in most cases is expensive. you could spend an extra 200 bucks a year on gas extra and still come out cheaper then trying to rent uhauls
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Originally Posted by MERTON
you're an evil metrosexual now! *runs*
Unlike MERTON, I've actually met Ubie and he's the exact opposite of a metrosexual. I mean that in a good way.

BTW, a jeep isn't technically an SUV. While it has good towing capacity, it doesn't have 4 doors and can only sit 4 people if the 2 people in the back are anorexic midgets. So for that, Ubie will go to the same level of hell as Richard Simmons which is a few above Hitler and Martha Stewart.

So Ubie, let us know when you get settled and where so I'll know where I can crash when I visit SF.

edit: Oops, it's a Cherokee which is an SUV. Well, since you're not using it to drive a mile to work, you still get to bunk w/ Richard Simmons, but you have to give him first reach around.
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omg you are an evil person jyossarian.
evil i tell you. God putting somebody in the same hell as Richard Simmons. Even I wouldn't do that!
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Originally Posted by TexasGuy
omg you are an evil person jyossarian.
evil i tell you. God putting somebody in the same hell as Richard Simmons. Even I wouldn't do that!
Hell is Richard Simmons before he takes a shower TG. Hopefully I'll be in the same level w/ all the nymphomaniac women. I drive an econocar so I should be one level above Ubie looking down on him and Richard spooning.
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Old 03-10-06, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jyossarian
Hell is Richard Simmons before he takes a shower TG. Hopefully I'll be in the same level w/ all the nymphomaniac women. I drive an econocar so I should be one level above Ubie looking down on him and Richard spooning.
Wait a minute! i'm already living in sin, don't i get to spoon w/my GF in hell? What level of hell do i need to be at to make this happen? I mean richard simmons is awfully feminine and all, but really, not my type ;P
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Originally Posted by Ubie
And let's face it, there's no choice there, if you've got to have a motor ride the Harley, should be pushing over 30mpg, right?
The Harley gets ridden a lot. About 40mpg if I stay out of it and Harleys sound better just cruising. However the Bug's a lot of fun too with the top down. I drive the Jeep when I have to haul people or stuff, or if it rains. Not something we've had to worry about too much in Oklahoma the past year or so.

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Only the soccer moms and male attention *****s who don't even know how to use the 4WD systems burn in hell for SUV use. Plus the idiots who think that 4WD means you can still drive 60 mph and stop in the same amount of time on black ice. Moving and tranpsorting fun stuff is not necessarily an invitation to hell. The tree huggers may disagree but they'll never catch you to preach at you riding their recumbents while wearing tube socks towing their whole lifes possessions in a homemade trailer.
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Originally Posted by Ubie
Wait a minute! i'm already living in sin, don't i get to spoon w/my GF in hell? What level of hell do i need to be at to make this happen? I mean richard simmons is awfully feminine and all, but really, not my type ;P
Nah, your gf will be in heaven for putting up w/ you. Cheer up, it coulda been worse. You coulda been bunking w/ Chuck Norris, but the devil's his *****.
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Originally Posted by Ubie
so many of us on here flat out bash SUV's without realizing that some of them do serve a purpose
See how quickly they corrupt you!
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Originally Posted by jyossarian
Hopefully I'll be in the same level w/ all the nymphomaniac women.
If it's like one of the well-known lawyer jokes, you'll be their punishment. Not that you'd mind
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Originally Posted by cooker
If it's like one of the well-known lawyer jokes, you'll be their punishment. Not that you'd mind
This man speaks the truth.
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I guess you'd become that entity I heard about the one time I drove to Oregon - a Californicator.
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Originally Posted by koine2002
It's a vehicle for fun and excursions (pun intended). You are using it for what it is intended for, as a work/fun vehicle. Where you become evil is when you use a Hummer (or any other large SUV) for getting to an from work everyday (unless work involves off-road use). It's especially true if you are the sole occupant. They're also good for people who have to haul 4-5 kids and all their sporting/extracurricular equipment--but I still think the minivan is more functional for that purpose--but it's impossible to look cool in a minivan. Man, am I ever sarcastic today!
I truly agree.. I have a hummer. a military Humv, I use it when folks in my town are in need, I have helped people out of floads ect, with all said I also used it a few times a years for recreation purposes. I travel around the states and go where terrains are made to use my baby for it's purpose. I do NOT drive it back and forth to my everyday routine as I believe that it doesnt make sense and would only become a show off. I myself dont like the H2 ( civilian hummers) I think they were made for people to flash thier cash. I have gone with people who have H2's to different events, those are the people who scream "look at my big truck" all day and really have no clue how to drive the thing or what it's use is. As much as I like mine and yes use it for it's purpose and am always willing to get people out of trouble, I really think Hummer drven everyday to flash around are a waste of energie, time and road.. When ever I haed out on the road for offroading purposes I LOVE to pass those macho guys in their H2's thinking they are hot s***, Id challenge them anytime off roads! hehe!!
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