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Old 04-05-06, 09:21 PM
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I'm with the OP. The old server worked fine to me. This "upgrade" is a waste. I'm glad I didn't pay to use it.
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Old 04-05-06, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DieselDan
I'm with the OP. The old server worked fine to me. This "upgrade" is a waste. I'm glad I didn't pay to use it.
[rant]

I take it everything you have done in your life has gone perfect? When I made the move and upgrade, I was not expecting this type of issue to come up, **** happens, I'm dealing with it.

The old server was dead, it was on its last legs, partitions were full, hard drives were failing, the webhost service sucked. The old server was not fine in any way, it may have worked OK, but I needed to get off that box, and the sooner the better. The server move was not an option, the upgrade was not an option. The old software was not secure, the new software is.

I'm sorry you are having soo many issues with the site...

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Old 04-05-06, 09:52 PM
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Old 04-05-06, 10:04 PM
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I don't get it. Joe is trying VERY hard to make things better for US - all of us, paying or not, registered or not. He is supposed to be "retired" from BF which is why Mael stepped in. NOBODY with a blue star is using their mod status as their source of income. They volunteer. Yes, there are problems. There are always problems whenever there is a change. I'm surprised that they are still allowing us access as this changeover is happening. We are very lucky it wasn't shut down for a few days straight.

Please accept that this switch over is taking time. How many hours of sleep is Joe losing for us, to make us happy? I see that there are more complaints than thank yous to him. People make moves for the better. It is not anyone's intention to make BF inconvenient.

Some people on here seem to want things, NOW - and instead of being patient, they are not grateful at all. Let's see THEM try to get this going and please the number of people that are using BF WHILE he is trying to make it perfect.

Give the guy a break, please. He is only trying to make things better for us all.

And Joe, as I said to you before, I think you are doing a great job and I thank you for all that you have accomplished for the sake of keeping BF alive. And for the mods, thank you for the patience you have had while people like me PM'd you asking questions. I appreciate it very much.

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Old 04-05-06, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
I don't get it. Joe is trying VERY hard to make things better for US - all of us, paying or not, registered or not. He is supposed to be "retired" from BF which is why Mael stepped in. NOBODY with a blue star is using their mod status as their source of income. They volunteer. Yes, there are problems. There are always problems whenever there is a change. I'm surprised that they are still allowing us access as this changeover is happening. We are very lucky it wasn't shut down for a few days straight.

Please accept that this switch over is taking time. How many hours of sleep is Joe losing for us, to make us happy? I see that there are more complaints than thank yous to him. People make moves for the better. It is not anyone's intention to make BF inconvenient.

Some people on here seem to want things, NOW - and instead of being patient, they are not grateful at all. Let's see THEM try to get this going and please the number of people that are using BF WHILE he is trying to make it perfect.

Give the guy a break, please. He is only trying to make things better for us all.

And Joe, as I said to you before, I think you are doing a great job and I thank you for all that you have accomplished for the sake of keeping BF alive. And for the mods, thank you for the patience you have had while people like me PM'd you asking questions. I appreciate it very much.

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Old 04-05-06, 11:10 PM
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Yeah! What she said she said!
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Old 04-05-06, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
I don't get it. Joe is trying VERY hard to make things better for US - all of us, paying or not, registered or not. He is supposed to be "retired" from BF which is why Mael stepped in. NOBODY with a blue star is using their mod status as their source of income. They volunteer. Yes, there are problems. There are always problems whenever there is a change. I'm surprised that they are still allowing us access as this changeover is happening. We are very lucky it wasn't shut down for a few days straight.

Please accept that this switch over is taking time. How many hours of sleep is Joe losing for us, to make us happy? I see that there are more complaints than thank yous to him. People make moves for the better. It is not anyone's intention to make BF inconvenient.

Some people on here seem to want things, NOW - and instead of being patient, they are not grateful at all. Let's see THEM try to get this going and please the number of people that are using BF WHILE he is trying to make it perfect.

Give the guy a break, please. He is only trying to make things better for us all.

And Joe, as I said to you before, I think you are doing a great job and I thank you for all that you have accomplished for the sake of keeping BF alive. And for the mods, thank you for the patience you have had while people like me PM'd you asking questions. I appreciate it very much.

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Well said, and while joe was on vacation he was far from retired. As you can see he is back ...I just stepped in for a short time I will still do the job as long as joe needs me.

Oh and by the way, what she said ..

I will never be able to understand the whiners and criers of this world especially when what they are complaining about is an essentially free service. 99% of the work involved is voluntary and most of the uptime costs are out of pocket. People that complain without having the remotest comprehension of why (and btw LOTS of people were whining 3 months ago when the old server started to slow down...this replacement was a long term coming), how, and what is involved. I deal with managers and execs all the time who don't have the slightest comprehension of what is involved in managing a single server, let alone performing upgrades, security patches, hardware repairs etc.

BTW Joe, you handled that better than I would have. Your patience isn't that thin yet ..
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Old 04-06-06, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Gardner
[rant]

I take it everything you have done in your life has gone perfect? When I made the move and upgrade, I was not expecting this type of issue to come up, **** happens, I'm dealing with it.

The old server was dead, it was on its last legs, partitions were full, hard drives were failing, the webhost service sucked. The old server was not fine in any way, it may have worked OK, but I needed to get off that box, and the sooner the better. The server move was not an option, the upgrade was not an option. The old software was not secure, the new software is.

I'm sorry you are having soo many issues with the site...

[/rant]
What a worthy rant, maybe you should make this a sticky ON THE HOME PAGE! as I don't think some people are getting it.
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Old 04-06-06, 05:09 AM
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Wow, BF is working pretty good this morning.
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Old 04-06-06, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
IF it is like the last time the numbers wont even get affected. Forum'ers have short memories. Once this thing is full swing, in a month people will only be praising joe for putting all the money and the last 3 weeks of his time into a worthy upgrade. Just in man hours alone (not including contractors) I would bet he has put in 80 hour weeks to get this place up and running. Plus server costs, redbull costs and loss of time with the family. All for something that costs him a fortune per month to keep up and running with little or no fiscal return.
Well said! Doing a software upgrade and a hardware upgrade in one sweeping move means that there are a LOT of different (big and little) things that can go wrong. Some aren't apparent from the get go and thus Joe couldn't have foreseen the problems we have been encountering these last few weeks. There is just no real way he could have simulated the typical server loads that BF's gets before going live with the new hardware and software. And because of that - there are a series of growing pains for a while. One fix may break something else, and so on. I applaud Joe for his commitment to making BF's the best cycling forum on the net for as Maelstorm said - little or no fiscal return. I'm already a red star and I will probably send some more $ Joe's way soon to help with all the costs over the last month.
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Old 04-06-06, 07:50 AM
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Oh, I had no idea they were fixing the servers, i gots no idea about stuff like that. should sticky this thread to the top
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Old 04-06-06, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ZachS
have you paid attention to anything that's been said in this thread?
I deleted my post. The site seems to be working better and I hope it stays that way.
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Old 04-06-06, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by geraldatwork
I deleted my post. The site seems to be working better and I hope it stays that way.
Cool. deleted quote of your post in mine.
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Old 04-06-06, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ZachS
Cool. deleted quote of your post in mine.

bah, my post seems to have been deleted, and i didn't do it!
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