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Old 04-11-06, 12:18 PM
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Any MSCE's, MCP's, MCSA's in the House?

I'm looking at upgrading my old, old NT 4.0 MCP Certification. Wow, there's a lot of new certifications out there!! What do you folks have, your friends have, or what what do you look for in a job candidate if you're hiring for techie's nowaday's? I'm open to other IT certs or training that can help boost a career.

A little background on me. I solely administer a 70 node mixed environment shop of OS X, XP, Exchange 2000, SQL Server, Windows 2000, Fedora Core. Great job! My Four year doing this. But it doesn't hurt to keep up the education and do some career planning. Used to be you'd change jobs every eighteen months in the tech industry ...
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I keep thinking about getting certs but I just keep riding on my experience which has worked well. Personally I would get my mcdba before I would both with network certs. Just my preference.

Have you ever thought of getting redhat certs or other *nix certs. That plus your current mcse would show some progression and versatility.
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Originally Posted by bigskymacadam
I'm looking at upgrading my old, old NT 4.0 MCP Certification. Wow, there's a lot of new certifications out there!! What do you folks have, your friends have, or what what do you look for in a job candidate if you're hiring for techie's nowaday's? I'm open to other IT certs or training that can help boost a career.

A little background on me. I solely administer a 70 node mixed environment shop of OS X, XP, Exchange 2000, SQL Server, Windows 2000, Fedora Core. Great job! My Four year doing this. But it doesn't hurt to keep up the education and do some career planning. Used to be you'd change jobs every eighteen months in the tech industry ...
Actually I thought that it was "moving" towards that
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
I keep thinking about getting certs but I just keep riding on my experience which has worked well. Personally I would get my mcdba before I would both with network certs. Just my preference.

I have an MCSE NT 4.0 from 8 years ago and I'm just now upgrading. I'm actually doing the MCDBA track for Windows 2003/SQL 2000. If anyone needs any help/notes or whatever, drop me a PM. It's only (4) exams, yay!
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Originally Posted by bigskymacadam
Great job! My Four year doing this. But it doesn't hurt to keep up the education and do some career planning. Used to be you'd change jobs every eighteen months in the tech industry ...
Yeah, 7.5 years for me and I thought I'd be gone after 3
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Wow... I got my MSCE back with WinNT 3.1. I was gonna get newer stuff, but the company I worked for didn't see a need for it since I could handle all the in-house stuff already. They were probably afraid that they'd have to pay me more... heh, heh.. I ended up quitting after 10-years and started my own IT biz anyway... There's a lot of "paper" MS certifications that's really marketing degrees. Knowing which Microsoft product is best suited to any given situation. For the future, I would place more importance on *NIX experience and knowledge.
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MCSE: Minesweeper Certified Solitaire Expert

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I took the MCSE course back in 2000 and did the Professional and Server exams....then got a job which made studying for the rest of the tests hard, and stopped there. Realistically, go with the MCSA cert. There is a lot of repeated material in MCSE, so you'd be fine with the MCSA. I would also second that who mentioned LINUX or UNIX. That's always a good skillset to have as well, but unfortunately it looks like you won't get to really use it, and if you're like me, will forget it in a short period.

What do you guys use for backup software? If you use Legato or Veritas, take a course in that and get certified...will definitely help.
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I've got my MCP, working on MCSE in 2003 and then my Citrix cert. I also have an OnBase installer cert.

I would definitely get them. It's amazing how many people will talk to you even if you just tell them you are working on getting them. Seems like they are some sort of "badge of honor".
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I've got my MCP, working on MCSE in 2003 and then my Citrix cert. I also have an OnBase installer cert.

I would definitely get them. It's amazing how many people will talk to you even if you just tell them you are working on getting them. Seems like they are some sort of "badge of honor".
for many, its often a means of networking with people that you couldn't before because now you know more terminology.
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Originally Posted by GuitarWizard
What do you guys use for backup software? If you use Legato or Veritas, take a course in that and get certified...will definitely help.
We use Veritas Backup Exec. We're now using LTO-1 tapes (100GB/200GB), but find that's too limited. We'll wait til LTO-5 drops later this year (800GB/1.6TB).
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Originally Posted by linux_author
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Thats my experience as well. I have hired two mcse's and found them basically useless. They didn't have the troubleshooting skills to fix anything really serious. Their instincts just weren't on par. I did take one and train them for a year on troubleshooting, not even it skills, just how to tear stuff down and build it. She now works for IBM in Ireland. Good student, once I got her head out of the books she really started to excel. Not to mention the endless mcse's I have known in the past decade or so.

That said one of the best techs I have had the pleasure of working under was certed to hell and back. MCSE, MCDBA, Novell certs, citrix, cisco and redhat. He also had the skills to back up the paper though.
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There's a big push for training in our company. The contention being, "Would you go see a dentist who didn't keep up with continual education, credentials, etc."

Then I thought to myself, "What makes me qualified to do my job? What do I need to prepare myself if I need to get another job?"

While I can cut it in most environments, I think it'll help to have the paper to go with the experience. I'll start with the MCP on track to the MCSA with specialization on messaging. There's a two day Linux course in Salem that I'll sign up for too. It's not a cert, but it'll still go on the list for edu.
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I want to go down the MCT line. I think I'd like to drop coding and **** all along and just go and teach people and do presentations and show up at big events and give everybody a pat on the back. Getting sick and tired of coding and what not .
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Nope. OCP DBA. Old version 8i
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