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Old 12-11-06, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ecnetsixe
*He who hesitates has already lost the battle*



These little gems remind me of why we in civilized society only hand over any form of decision making power to the military as an absolute 'last resort'

good to see you in such a humorous mood so early in the morning

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Old 12-11-06, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by HAMMER MAN
good to see you in such a humorous mood so early in the morning

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Old 03-25-07, 01:27 PM
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whoa, whoever said you would be able to ride in the service was a mad man... its been awhile ... hasnt it.. aha... picked up lance corporal meritouriously and i havent been able to touch a bike let alone think of affording a new one... as well as having time... im in 3/8 2nd mardiv apparently you choose a "normal" mos and you go to an infantry battalion where you work 12 hour days and get payed nill
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Hmmm.... $15K per year, plus housing and food all in your first year. Plus 30 days paid leave, 100% medical, dental and they train you.

Tell me where else you START at that level and work up from there?

Agreed it's not a fortune, but it's a damn good start.
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Originally Posted by skiahh
Hmmm.... $15K per year, plus housing and food all in your first year. Plus 30 days paid leave, 100% medical, dental and they train you.

Tell me where else you START at that level and work up from there?

Agreed it's not a fortune, but it's a damn good start.
For putting ones life on the line, no it's not much at all. Other professions have to deal with O.S.H.A., Gmoneyhobbit has to deal with I.E.D.'s. Our boys are underpaid.
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Old 03-25-07, 06:24 PM
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I'm not disputing that we're underpaid in the military; we don't do it for the money.

All I'm saying is that overall, for an 18-20 year old to have, essentially, $15K of disposable income plus full health and 30 days of vacation isn't all that bad.
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I did not realize that you were also serving/did serve, thank you for that.
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Old 03-25-07, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by skiahh
All I'm saying is that overall, for an 18-20 year old to have, essentially, $15K of disposable income plus full health and 30 days of vacation isn't all that bad.
yep.. that's why you see so many hot cars and motocycles and stuff in the military..yep!

not bad at all.
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Old 03-25-07, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by skiahh
Hmmm.... $15K per year, plus housing and food all in your first year. Plus 30 days paid leave, 100% medical, dental and they train you.

Tell me where else you START at that level and work up from there?

Agreed it's not a fortune, but it's a damn good start.

How about 38 k a year start, awsome medical(not 100% though) work 90 days a year with 24 days off, holidays are double time, they train you, give you uni's, pension is 75%of your salary after 30 years.....Where else? the fire department
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....might be something worth looking into after you get out of the sevice, your already used to being in a military envirnment anyway, the command structure is similair, so it won't be a tough transition for you.....
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I've got a cousin who is a surgeon with the Special Forces and he reports plenty of cyclists on base.
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Originally Posted by lodi781
How about 38 k a year start, awsome medical(not 100% though) work 90 days a year with 24 days off, holidays are double time, they train you, give you uni's, pension is 75%of your salary after 30 years.....Where else? the fire department
Well... same 75% pension after 30 years, enlisted get their uniforms, too. How high do you go for your 30 years/75%?

Oh yeah, as for me becoming a firefighter? My only option is as a volunteer (did that for about 10 years before and right after joining the Navy) because I'm a bit older than the age they're looking for to hire as career firefighters. I've been in the Navy for 20 years so far....
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Top salary for me is 65K, I'm a private. LT's get 75K, and captains get 85K. But we have a guy that retired from FDNY after the pile, and came over to us(he started out as a probie again) But he was 45 when he came to us. You can retire after 20 years with 50%, and it goes up about 2% a year after that.
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Old 03-25-07, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by lodi781
Top salary for me is 65K, I'm a private. LT's get 75K, and captains get 85K. But we have a guy that retired from FDNY after the pile, and came over to us(he started out as a probie again) But he was 45 when he came to us. You can retire after 20 years with 50%, and it goes up about 2% a year after that.
Yeah well... not for me. I'm not going to start as a probie again at 45. I'm pretty senior now (already beyond your captains) and if I stick around for a few more years, I couldn't even stay 20 years (I mean, who would want a 65+ year old guy hobbling in to haul you out of a burning building??).

I do know at least one guy who got out and went to the FF academy and is now happily doing that job as well as the reserves. Best of both worlds.
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Hi free pizza-

See posts# 8 and 9 on the first page of this thread for the FlightDeck reference as it relates to Shimano and the military...

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Originally Posted by gmoneyhobbit
are there any members here in the us marines... even in the military in general. im 19 and am want to join the marines. with that in mind, bicycle riding has had a major impact on my life. i realize that in bootcamp there will be no riding, but afterwards, assuming that i am not infantry and am not drafted to the frontline, will choosing this career affect me in terms of time to ride.

not to be selfish, but honestly if it were so that i were not able to give time to my bike, i wouldnt want to choose this path.

anyone everyone welcome to holler in

I didn't read all the pages in this topic but wanted to respond to the "hoobit"

Anyway I'm 20 and stationed in South Korea as a mechanic in the US Army. I don't know much about the Marines but I know us army dudes are lazy compared to them. That in mind we run about 6-7 miles every other day and pretty much don't have time to do a lot of riding except on the weekends, even then you almost have to use Saturday and Sunday for recovery. After all that I'd say you'd have little time to ride unless you live off post then you can just commute on your bike.

One more thing if riding your bike is a factor in joining the marines then don't join. What I mean by that is it sounds like you are one of those would join the marines for money, education and seeing the world. Those being three horrible reasons to join. The military is not a 9 to 5 job you rarely get to "see the world". Heres a often used metaphor You volunteered for jail time and the Sgt's are the guards and the Pvt's are the inmates" civilian laugh at that but it's pretty close to the truth.

Of course this is all my 2 cents and I know there's gonna be Vet's who will "correct" me. But if you value your freedom and have the slightest disagreement with the current war then DO NOT Join and DO NOT trust your recruiter he's a car salesman and the car's human bodies.

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Pez, I'm a vet andf I actually agree 100%! If the poster wants to join out of a sense of duty and honor, then by all means, sign up. To do so for the educational benefits....well, as long as they do so eyes open, then also fine. But to do so to see the world? Nope, you won't be a tourist! You'll either be on a base, or in a third world pesthole. There are exceptions to this, like Germany, but what can I say?
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I didn't read all the pages in this topic but wanted to respond to the "hoobit"

Anyway I'm 20 and stationed in South Korea as a mechanic in the US Army. I don't know much about the Marines but I know us army dudes are lazy compared to them. That in mind we run about 6-7 miles every other day and pretty much don't have time to do a lot of riding except on the weekends, even then you almost have to use Saturday and Sunday for recovery. After all that I'd say you'd have little time to ride unless you live off post then you can just commute on your bike.

One more thing if riding your bike is a factor in joining the marines then don't join. What I mean by that is it sounds like you are one of those would join the marines for money, education and seeing the world. Those being three horrible reasons to join. The military is not a 9 to 5 job you rarely get to "see the world". Heres a often used metaphor You volunteered for jail time and the Sgt's are the guards and the Pvt's are the inmates" civilian laugh at that but it's pretty close to the truth.

Of course this is all my 2 cents and I know there's gonna be Vet's who will "correct" me. But if you value your freedom and have the slightest disagreement with the current war then DO NOT Join and DO NOT trust your recruiter he's a car salesman and the car's human bodies.

Peace!
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Wow, it's so nice to meet a Vet who didn't try and rip me a new one! I try to warn as many people as I can about joining the Military because I joined for money, education and to see the world. Big mistake, I've hated everyday of the Army and have tried to get out numerous times. Mainly because I came from a "peaceful" background, traveled a lot and if I truly hated a job I quit and moved on. So being here is going against who I am and is very hard to deal with. Although I probably shouldn't complain to much, the pay I get from the army is going to help me pay for my first house and land.

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Originally Posted by ecnetsixe
omg dont miss that guy!
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Originally Posted by Private_Pez
Wow, it's so nice to meet a Vet who didn't try and rip me a new one! I try to warn as many people as I can about joining the Military because I joined for money, education and to see the world. Big mistake, I've hated everyday of the Army and have tried to get out numerous times. Mainly because I came from a "peaceful" background, traveled a lot and if I truly hated a job I quit and moved on. So being here is going against who I am and is very hard to deal with. Although I probably shouldn't complain to much, the pay I get from the army is going to help me pay for my first house and land.

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Pez, the fact remains that you are serving your time, regardless of finding out it ain't what you were told. As I said....honor and you deserve the right to speak your mind anyway! You understand that and that's part of what your purpose as a soldier is, to protect that right. You are there and as long as your speech doesn't violate the UCMJ, you're protected.
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Originally Posted by lodi781
How about 38 k a year start, awsome medical(not 100% though) work 90 days a year with 24 days off, holidays are double time, they train you, give you uni's, pension is 75%of your salary after 30 years.....Where else? the fire department
There are rich people who are firefighters? Three fireman I know are very much broke and on the verge of or have already had their homes foreclosed on them and fight for a 2% pay raise.
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There are rich people who are firefighters? Three fireman I know are very much broke and on the verge of or have already had their homes foreclosed on them and fight for a 2% pay raise.
not in my town!!! ohh brother that is the talk over here! they are very well paid!
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Originally Posted by blonduathlongrl
not in my town!!! ohh brother that is the talk over here! they are very well paid!
So they are very well paid or are they not?
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