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Old 10-13-06, 07:00 PM   #1
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Moving to Osaka, Japan - to work

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Moving to Osaka, Japan - to work
Hey all,

me 26 male
in Perth Australia
Never been overseas................................ .....yet

I am STRONGLY considering a career change. After several months and a rigorous job interview process, I have been offered a job in Osaka or Tokyo Japan as a trainee patent attorney in the electronics division.

* I am leaning towards Osaka as it is my first time outside Australia, I am told Osoka is cheaper, and the main Company office is in Osoka not Tokyo.


a) Who knows anything about Osoka? Share your stories please!

b) What is the cost of living like?

say rent?
say eating out?
buying a car?

c) How are foreigners treated?

* I am a 6 foot 2 caucasian, white as the snow and athletic *sounds like a dating profile

d) ANything else I should know?

What is the working lifestyle like? 20 hours days or relaxed? Generally for most in Japan.

How long does it take to pick up enough Japanese to get by? Is it a problem? Hard to learn? Should you take classes?

as for the package offered it is,

job (getting more details)
accomodation (studio apartment 20m2) or 50,000 yen per month accomodation costs
flights home annually
Some food

* also, what is Osoka like to cycle around by bicycle?

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Old 10-13-06, 07:03 PM   #2
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The Kansai area is famous for its okonomiyaki.
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a) I've never been to Osaka (used to live in Tokyo), but there's lots of cool music going on around that area -- especially psychedelic folk-rock like Ghost. As you've probably read, it's Japan's Second City. I think it's supposed to be a bit more laid-back than Tokyo, and likely a bit less expensive.

b) That said, Japan is expensive no matter what. You will be living in a shoebox and paying through the nose for it. Don't bother buying a car -- the trains are so good in Japan that you won't need one. Plus, the license process is expensive and requires extensive (and expensive) maintenance checks on your car. Filling up a car in Japan is expensive -- I can't say exactly how much, but when my family had a mid-sized Mazda in Hong Kong, it was not unusual to pay more than US$70/AUS$95 to fill up the tank. You would likely see similar prices in Japan.

c) Most people you run into will treat you nicely. There will be some jerks who give you a hard time and/or assume you're an idiot. The more interest you display in Japan (or any host country), the friendlier people are likely to be. Do take the time to learn some Japanese. It will take time -- how much time depends on how much you want to learn. I'd say about 3-6 months will have you "getting by" with very basic conversation, being able to go to the store and ask for simple directions -- that sort of thing. One easy thing you can do now is to learn the phonetic alphabets, hiragana and katakana. That way, even if you don't know what a sign says, you can often sound it out. Katakana is especially fun, since it's mostly used to spell out foreign words like "Makudonarudo" (McDonald's) and "konpyuuta" (computer). I would definitely recommend taking language classes, perhaps even before you leave for Japan. You will probably find that there is VERY little English used there (there's much more in China).

d) Go with the flow! It's going to be a big change -- Japan is a weird, wonderful place, and completely different from anywhere else on the planet. There will be a lot of little things that you take for granted that will be entirely different there -- some in a good way, some not so much to your liking. Just try to take everything with an open mind and not get frustrated at these differences (can be difficult sometimes). Most of all, have fun! It sounds like a great opportunity.

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Old 10-14-06, 03:02 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by gbcb
athe trains are so good in Japan that you won't need one
you mean the operator has to shove you in with all his/her might?

but the cost of living is very expensive over there so i heard. you better be living next to a bank cuz you'll be filing for bankruptcy in like minutes if you eat out
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GBCB's post has good info. Tokyo and Osaka - plenty of people love living in each.

Cost of living is high in either but you'll manage. Millions get by fine in either city.

Patent trainee is a decent job. You'll manage a tiny but tidy apartment, just like literally millions of others.

You'll neither have, need, nor want a car.

Of course you'll want to learn Japanese. It's hard but you'll be able, and meanwhile you'll manage. Get a book and learn the katakana in one or two weekends. You'll get an immediate working vocabulary of several hundred words - because katakana is the phonetic script used for words borrowed from other languages - the overwhelming majority from English.

You'll make lots of Japanese friends, but Tokyo and Osaka each have enough young friendly foreigners for you to blow off some steam with from time to time.
c) How are foreigners treated?

* I am a 6 foot 2 caucasian, white as the snow and athletic *sounds like a dating profile
No one will mess with you, and as long as you're not a total dork you'll be needing to schedule dates on your Outlook calendar just to try and keep track of them. If you are a total dork you'll still find someone pretty who'll love you regardless.

If you have any inclination whatsoever, do it. Or spend the rest of your life kicking yourself.
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i spend 3 months in Nagano, and i love japan. such a cool country.

I've never been to Osaka though, so i cant answer any of your questions...
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