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Old 02-28-07, 09:48 PM
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Hemingway

Anyone here like reading his short storys or novels? I find him to be one of the most significant authors I've ever read with his unique ways of writing, which I find appealing and motvates me to read more. Anyone else like his works? My favorites are The Killers and Hills Like White Elephants. Hopefully Ill have enough time to read For whom the bell tolls.
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Old 02-28-07, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by EJ123
Anyone here like reading his short storys or novels? I find him to be one of the most significant authors I've ever read with his unique ways of writing, which I find appealing and motvates me to read more. Anyone else like his works? My favorites are The Killers and Hills Like White Elephants. Hopefully Ill have enough time to read For whom the bell tolls.
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Reading? Books? Ummmm, ok....
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Hemingway had a remarkable talent for vivid writing. I read a few of his short stories and hated them - not because the writing was poor, but because that hombre was loco in the cabesa. For him, being a mentally disturbed alcoholic was a double-edged sword.
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Old 02-28-07, 10:18 PM
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For Whom the Bell Tolls is good, The Sun Also Rises is very good, and The Old Man and the Sea is true genius just because of its simplicity. Hills like White Elephants is one of the few that I have not read by Hemingway.
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Old 02-28-07, 10:39 PM
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I liked Old Man and the Sea. I think the genius in its simplicity statement fits. The only other work of his I've read is Farewell to Arms. It was worth the read, but I didn't find anything particularly fascinating about it.

I never really thought of Hemingway as vivid. Introspective yes, but not vivid, and everything is pessimistic. Dickens was vivid. He liked to dwell on peculiar details and add a metaphorical twist to describing them (ex: Marley being dead as a coffin nail as opposed to a doornail). Dickens really fascinated me for a while...until I got to David Copperfield and realized he only ever dreamed up alternate personalities for himself. Still, I really like A Tale of Two Cities.

Anyway, back on Hemingway. I need to get started on another book (just read The Moon is Down by Steinbeck), so this thread is kind of a nice pointer in a good direction to try.

What do you guy's think: For Whom the Bell Tolls or The Sun Also Rises?
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Read "A Moveable Feast" in addition to "For Whom the Bell Tolls". Then read some Jack Kerouac (On the Road) for a contrasting style of American author one generation removed from Hemingway. Hemingway led an interesting life for sure, but Kerouac led a wilder life and IMO, was a more interesting personality.

edit: "The Sun Also Rises" made me want to go run w/ the bulls in Pamplona.
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Old 02-28-07, 10:47 PM
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The Sun Also Rises is a bit more varied to me. Changes of location, more characters, etc. Has some great dialogue when two of the main characters go fishing.

For Whom the Bell Tolls is a bit more introverted, not as many characters.

Both are well worth reading, but for me, The Sun Also Rises is a better choice.
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Farewell to Arms was quite good as well.

I dig EH. Makes me want to move to Europe, order room service, drink profusely, ride my bike and then die.

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Star 80 was a good movie.
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Originally Posted by Taerom
Reading? Books? Ummmm, ok....
O.........K......... Taerom just showed his intelligence level. Would you like us to get the truck ready for the muddin'?

I read "The Pearl" and "The Old Man and the Sea" in high school. I remember both of them seemed a bit boring in terms of the story, but very thought-provoking nonetheless.

If that style of book catches your attention, try some Ayn Rand. Start with one of her easy books like "Anthem".
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O.........K......... Taerom just showed his intelligence level. Would you like us to get the truck ready for the muddin'?

I read "The Pearl" and "The Old Man and the Sea" in high school. I remember both of them seemed a bit boring
I thought Steinbeck wrote 'The Pearl'?
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He did.

I liked The Grapes of Wrath & In Dubious Battle, the two seemed to go together well.
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I just finished Of Mice And Men, next I'm probably going to read Grapes of Wrath or Cannery Row.
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I like sci-fi short stories by Isaac Asimov and Ray Bradbury to name a couple. Also, Edgar Allen Poe with th e "Tell-Tale Heart" and "The Raven."
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How about OSC?
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My favorite Hemingway is Islands in the Stream
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Originally Posted by classic1
I thought Steinbeck wrote 'The Pearl'?
Oops....you're right. My bad.

I've thought of it as Hemmingway all these years...I guess we only read "The Old Man and the Sea" by Hemmingway.

I've read a few other books by Steinbeck (Grapes of Wrath, Of Mice and Men, Charley and Me)...and he's a great writer, but not the "thinking" kind of writer I was talking about.
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Originally Posted by Stacey
How about OSC?
I never could get into Card. Bradbury was the master though. Asimov was not that great IMO...I think he is waaaaaaaay overrated.
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If I am reading SciFi, I turn to Heinlein.
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Originally Posted by iamlucky13
...I never really thought of Hemingway as vivid. Introspective yes, but not vivid, and everything is pessimistic.
Perhaps vivid wasn't the best choice. He conveyed a very strong sense of the setting in the 2 stories I could manage before getting utterly fed up with his fixation on death, despair and suffering. Those elements have a place in literature, but I felt no desire to slog through his torture.

In that personal sense, I feel no compunction in stating he failed as a writer.
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Zorro, have you read any of the stories in A Moveable Feast? They describe hi early married life in Paris. Not doom and despair as I recall. Try the Sun Also Rises, the story of a group of extended friends and a trip to Spain to fish and watch the bulls. I don't think it was dark or crazy either.
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sounds like someone is doing his Hemingway homework & needs a few opinions...
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Originally Posted by jsharr
If I am reading SciFi, I turn to Heinlein.
I almost mentioned him as one of the greats too, but to be fair, I've honestly only read one of his (Stranger in a Strange Land).

I still vote Bradbury as the original master though!
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Heinlein was a visionary, in so much as many of the the things he wrote about as future tech now exists. Bradbury was much the same. I get my science fantasy from Tolkien and Terry Brooks. Tech thrillers are Clancy, Dean Ing, Dale Brown. Mystery is Tony Hillerman, Dick Francis.
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