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Old 07-14-07, 12:11 AM
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wanting to join Freemasonry-any advice?

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Old 07-14-07, 12:22 AM
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My father was with DeMolay as a kid before he joined the Masons later. I don't know too much about either organization, but I'm led to believe they had their heyday in the 1950's and membership is on the wane.
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If your dad was in the clan, would you join?

Sorry, but from what little I've seen the Freemasons are just a bunch of "good old boys" who only like to let their own kind in. Yes, my grandfather was one.
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I think I got a little scholarship from some Masonic Lodge in my town...maybe, I don't remember. I have no idea what they do...
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They wear silly little hats and ride funny bikes and go karts in parades.
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Originally Posted by Stacey
They wear silly little hats and ride funny bikes and go karts in parades.
No...that's the Shriners, silly.

Freemasons build brick houses.....for free apparently.
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Originally Posted by Stacey
They wear silly little hats and ride funny bikes and go karts in parades.
Ohhh, those guys. I want to join! Do you get a free t-shirt or something when you join?

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Freemasons build brick houses.....for free apparently.
ok, nevermind, I don't want to join...
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Only if you buy the pills.
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Originally Posted by Stacey
Only if you buy the pills.
heh, I hadn't even read your thread when I wrote that. I think a Smilin Bob shirt would be better than a Freemason shirt!
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Sorry, but from what little I've seen the Freemasons are just a bunch of "good old boys" who only like to let their own kind in. Yes, my grandfather was one.
he he, same here.

I haven't got a monkey's what the big deal is with this old boys' club, and my grandad was some super-high ranking grand poobah or some BS.

And one of the most memorable and ridiculous super-azzheads I have ever met in my life was a freemason. Was very proud of it too.
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Originally Posted by doctortalk121
two of my uncles were freemasons, and i'm wanting to join. what is the best way to get my foot in the door?
Presumably your uncles have explained what the whole point of the thing is, then? Would you care to enlighten us?
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When I was in Pittsfield MA on the 4th of July this year, I saw guys driving these car replica go karts. The motor looked like it was just a lawn mower motor, and the vehicle could not have been over 5ft long. The riders wore a red hat with a tassel on it. Were these shriners?

Also, what exactly is the function of the Masons?
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My father used to be a Shriner.

Shriners are a sect of Freemasonry, but they are oriented towards "fun" activities like hosting circuses, parades, and the like.

He never talked about what goes on in there, basically from my understanding it's just another fraternal organization. All I know is he eventually just didn't care for it and left.
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Originally Posted by catatonic
My father used to be a Shriner.

Shriners are a sect of Freemasonry, but they are oriented towards "fun" activities like hosting circuses, parades, and the like.

He never talked about what goes on in there, basically from my understanding it's just another fraternal organization. All I know is he eventually just didn't care for it and left.
Will he talk about it now?
I want to know why it's so secretive.
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The beliefs and practices of the Masonic Lodge are supposed to be secret, but all of that information is available in public libraries, even from Masonic sources. In addition, there are plenty of books people have written about the Masonic Lodge, some of whom are former Masons.

The church to which I belong asks people to make a choice between belonging to the Lodge and belonging to the church for the reason that Masonic teaching contradicts the teaching of the Bible, despite what representatives of the Lodge might say. The Bible says no amount of human effort can bring reconcilliation with God, but only faith in the promises God makes because Jesus died for the sins of the world. The Masonic Lodge teaches salvation is through sincerity and good works done by people and that Jesus Christ was a man like any other man, not God and man at the same time.
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Ask one to be one. It is that simple. If you know where the lodge is in your town call over there or stop by the next time you see some cars parked outside. Freemasons generally don't generally ask people to join, but readily accept and welcome new members.

For the other gentleman who think Shriners just have parties and ride go-karts should go spend a day with them at one of the Shriner's Burn Hospitals for children. The Shriners are one the largest fund raisers for injured children in America. They never ask the patients to pay for anything, the Shriners pay for all it. Their burn units are regarded as some of the finest treatment centers in the country.
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In Pa, I knew a few of them from the organization we used to be in and they
wouldnt speak openly about it at all. Very secretive.
I want to join to get the cool ring. If you read thier website, they say they are
just a community organization.

A really great movie to see on them (fiction) is the awsomely kool Johnny Depps
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From what I understand, shriners are awesome. They do a lot of excellent charity work.

Still don't get the masons though.
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Originally Posted by phantomcow2
Will he talk about it now?
I want to know why it's so secretive.
The secrecy is just part of any fraternal organization from my understanding. Nope, he doesn't talk about it still....he's a man of his word, and part of joining was keeping fraternal secrets a secret.
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Originally Posted by Nicodemus
From what I understand, shriners are awesome. They do a lot of excellent charity work.

Still don't get the masons though.

Shriners are masons, if that helps any.
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The Shriners really do great stuff. People with special needs children can't say enough good things about them, as that seems to be their primary focus. Other sects of Freemasonry do community service work, too. This is obviously a very "pro" freemasonry website, but it's educational.

I remember from religion class in school that the Roman Catholic Church does not want Catholics to become Freemasons. They came up with the Knights of Columbus as an alternative. From all I've read, it seems like these masonic groups are of a Deist nature, and so I'm not surprised that some religions have a problem with that.

I think they're a "club" like any other, but they do have a focus on bettering their communities, and their organizational principles seem like tolerant ones. Most of the men on the Protestant side of my family were Freemasons, and they were all good people and open-minded for their era. There are worse things you could do than join them.
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Originally Posted by phantomcow2
I want to know why it's so secretive.
A Mason might give you a different answer, but back in the late 17th and early 18th century when Freemasonry began, kings tended to have restrictive laws about groups of men meeting in an organized fashion. This is because they usually did so with the purpose of fomenting rebellion, and, well, kings liked their power. I suspect that this is why they came up with all the secret stuff initially. Now of course, it's tradition.

Most of the Framers of the US Constitution were Freemasons. In fact, I think that's where the term "Framers" came from. It makes sense when you think about it. There was already this culture and structure of secrecy in place, plus a membership of liberal-minded men with prominent places in their communities. How clever and easy to use it to rebel.
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Originally Posted by donnamb
Most of the Framers of the US Constitution were Freemasons.
Very true. The relic bible used to swear presidents in is some kind of "freemason bible" (whatever that means).
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The Shriners are an amazing group, and anyone who thinks their only purpose is to have fun in little go-karts and red pipe hats really ought to drink bleach. They fund several childrens hospitals and provide all medical service free of charge. It is surely not limited to burn victims, they treat a variety of conditions. I had surgery at the Shriners Hospital in Greenville, SC for cerebral palsy and I am exceptionally happy with the experience and results.
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