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Old 08-02-07, 03:52 PM
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today we witnessed something tragic during our ride.

Just north of Cerbere. Fr. as we were riding to Spain. We stopped just north of town on a Meditterranean overlook for a little break . It must have been 700 feet to the sea. Looked like a woman driver of a sedan. She must have pushed the accelerator instead of hitting the brakes. Think we saw like kids in the back seat. They went over a cliff. A concrete marker was not enough to stop the car. We could hear someone scream. Several other witness' saw the accident. Just can't get the image out of our minds. On the way back , two helicopters were atop the hill along with several police cars. It was almost a staight drop to the sea. Horrible. We rode home in silence.
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Old 08-02-07, 03:56 PM
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God that's awful. Good thing you made it home OK. I don't know if I could ride safely after seeing something like that.
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Old 08-02-07, 03:57 PM
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Holy ****!...that's just awfull!!!
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Old 08-02-07, 04:01 PM
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Sorry to hear that. I hit an owl with my truck driving home last night and felt bad the whole way, i can't imagine how you feel.

Such is life, try not to over think it. These types of things typically manifest themselves as "flashbulb" memories, very vivid...impossible to forget. The important thing to remember is that you likely can't repress it, nor should you try. The more you think about it, the more it sticks.
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Wow....that's just messed up.
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holy crap, that's awful. anything on the news?
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Old 08-02-07, 04:15 PM
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I have been searching for it on Pyrenees Oriental news sites. Could find nothing so far. It happened about 5-6 pm, CET. Had to talk about it . Can't stop thinking about it. That kind of a fall. I am sure there is no hope. I am sure it will be in the newspaper called , 'L'Independent ', in tomorrows edition.
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jeez, theres nothing to really say on that one. sorry you witnessed it.
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Old 08-02-07, 04:23 PM
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That is awful. Too bad you had to witness such a thing, I'm sure you could have gone your whole life without seeing something like that.

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Old 08-02-07, 04:39 PM
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sure would seem barriers would have been a good idea. the property is also used by a vintner selling 'Banyuls. ' a slightly sweet wine. Wonder if he wonders.
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Old 08-02-07, 05:33 PM
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It's probably of no comfort, but I imagine the incident was worse for the eye-wittnesses
than it was for the victims. 700 feet of freefall most certainly followed by immediate
unconciousness...end of suffering. You, however will live with this vision and have to
learn how to deal with it. My condolences and prayers to all involved.
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That really sucks. Way too many bad things happen in this world, sucks when you gotta see it first hand.

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CZ, sorry you had to witness this tragedy.
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I saw what a person looks like after being hit by a lightrail going 50mph. Death is a hard thing to witness, but I found that once I realized that people die everyday in worse ways it was a bit easier to deal with.
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Originally Posted by cyclezealot View Post
Think we saw like kids in the back seat. It was almost a staight drop to the sea. Horrible.
Poor kidlets...
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Old 08-03-07, 01:28 AM
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Maybe best not to know. Many have been critical of the newspapers. They only cover the happy news. Checked the electronic edition of L'Independent. Checked all the surrounding villages news reports , no mention on the Net edition of any car going over the edge. Witeness' pretty sure they saw kids in the back seat. The poor kids. Wonder what age.
The electronic edition talks only of festivals, music. Some papers want us not to know, because it is a determent to tourism? So journalists say, at least. It's better to know, so as to alert others. Maybe the printed edition will be different . ? Here you have to walk to the tabac to get a newspaper.
Maybe the deaths were instant, but the shock of the fall for all and the kids. We were maybe 50 feet away, talking with a set of other cycling tourists, helpless as the car went over.
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That's ****ing horrible, man.
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Thats a horrible experience. I'm sorry you had to see that.
I'd like to add, if you start having any difficulties with this memory or any major changes in attitude or feelings around this, please don't hesitate to see a professional to get help working through any issues.
A lot of people who see stuff like this end up traumatized and need professional assistance, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Originally Posted by lodi781
sorry you witnessed it.
Originally Posted by juliebeanpie
Too bad you had to witness such a thing
Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe
sorry you had to witness this tragedy
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I'm sorry you had to see that.

I think this would have been even more tragic if no one had been there to witness it. The OP's presence gave this seemingly senseless act a purpose and a validation...not necessarily one that's obvious to anyone now, but one that will eventually become apparent.

Or maybe I'm wrong...
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I think this would have been even more tragic if no one had been there to witness it. The OP's presence gave this seemingly senseless act a purpose and a validation...not necessarily one that's obvious to anyone now, but one that will eventually become apparent.

Or maybe I'm wrong...
Perhaps, but it still has to be a painful experience for the OP.
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That is tragic.
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I think this would have been even more tragic if no one had been there to witness it. The OP's presence gave this seemingly senseless act a purpose and a validation...not necessarily one that's obvious to anyone now, but one that will eventually become apparent.

Or maybe I'm wrong...
Actually, in a way, I agree that there was a bit of validation to this. CZ, perhaps there is something you can do to get better infrastructure in place to at least help avoid this happening again? Perhaps layered buffers with rails that guide a car away from a direct ipact before the concrete barrier, or concrete barriers behind sand crash barrels to attenuate the impact and give a greater chance of survival.

That would seem to be a way to make a horrible and senseless event have some meaning as well as give you some sense of fulfilling these peoples lives......

Just a thought.

I'm still sorry you had to witness it though, there is nothing worse than seeing something happen and not being able to do a thing about it.
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That's horrifying just to hear about. Life can be so unabashedly cruel sometimes.

Now go hug your loved ones, drink that expensive scotch you've been hoarding, and appreciate your place on this end of the cliff. I'd do the same, but I'm at work, love no one here, and drinking would get me fired. Xanax could be good though.
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How sad. I don't know how I'd handle seeing something like that but I don't think I would do very well. Does make you appreciate life more when something like this shows you that your time could be anytime.
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It's not horrifying, terrible, messed up, sad, tragic or awful... it's death.

It's something every life owes. We never know when, where or how it will be collected. But reality is, in the end it will be collected. We can turn our heads, we can pretend it didn't happen, we can even alter the perception of history it will still happen. It happens every minute of every hour of every day.

Every life owes a death.
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