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Old 08-02-07, 11:09 PM
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crappy restaurant service...

so where has it gone?

am i the ony one that refuses to tip at a buffet?
even $1 dollar seems too much there. "would you like some sweet tea? for $1 million?

the other restaurants in town, some fairly nice places, expect you to be satisfied with a smile, and "i'm sorry we absolutely disregarded your order..."

is it me?

how have things fared for you?

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Old 08-03-07, 02:03 AM
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I've never heard of tipping at a buffet, although each time I travel back to the States (once every five years or so) it seems more and more people are expecting tips. Last time I was there the kid dipping out ice cream at the ice cream parlor expected a tip.

I speak as someone who has spent much time as a waiter and barman; WTF?
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The drive up window at the local Dairy Queen has a 'Tips Appreciated" jar. I pointed and laughed.
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Old 08-03-07, 10:08 AM
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...here we go again...
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Originally Posted by Stacey View Post
The drive up window at the local Dairy Queen has a 'Tips Appreciated" jar. I pointed and laughed.
I just tear off the end of the coney dog and drop it in there.
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I usually leave a buck or two at the local Indian buffet- they keep our water glasses filled and take away dirty dishes. As to sit-down service, here's my scale (typical, I think for a big city in the states):
Excellent, excellent service, without any ingratiating bulls**t: 20-22%
Excellent service: 20%
Great service: 18%
Average: 15%
Fair: 10%
Poor: I will stiff, and almost always with a comment explaining why. I never stiff without a good reason, though- that's just plain bad manners.

As to tip jars at take-out places? NO WAY. In the US, these workers aren't subject to the ridiculously low minimum wage imposed on wait staff (something like $2.50/hour), and they get at least current US minimum wage. It always cracks me up to see tip jars in a Starbucks. Come on.
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I dont really care as long as I get food in a reasonable time frame and it looks like the thing I ordered. the last time I got bad service was about 2 years back in a friendly's in New Hampshire
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I tip a buck at the buffet but that can be deemed unnecessary.
10-16% if <2 in the party
and 20% if >2.
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Originally Posted by Stacey View Post
The drive up window at the local Dairy Queen has a 'Tips Appreciated" jar. I pointed and laughed.
Starbucks has one of those...it's allready 5 bucks for coffee ... i never put anything in
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I try to tip 20% or thereabouts as the starting point for good but not great service. Maybe a bit less if it is a realy expensive, swanky place, usually more at a breakfast place, where you often get the best and most underpaid wait staff. I have stiffed really bad service before, but it's been a while. I will not stiff someone for goofing up or even flagrant incompetence if they are at least trying and showing a good attitude. To get the goose-egg, they have to have combined inability to do the job right with a consistently bad attitude.

Most times, if I get exceptionally good service, I try to speak to the owner/manager/person in charge and tell them directly who our waiter/waitress was and what a great job they did. You want to see a look of suspicion and defensiveness change before your eyes one of surprise and happiness? Go ask to see the manager at a Denny's or the like to tell them what great service you got. Try it sometime, it's kind of a kick.

I ocassionally drop a buck in the tip jar of a counter-service place that I frequent regularly, but not as a general practice. I am old enough to find the proliferation of "tips appreciated" containers a bit tacky - especially the paper cup ones.
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Tips for full serve only......

15-20%

Poor service gets a 1¢ tip, that way, they know I didn't forget and just made a statement about their poor service.
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Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
Tips for full serve only......

15-20%

Poor service gets a 1¢ tip, that way, they know I didn't forget and just made a statement about their poor service.
Exactly (or should I say +1¢?).
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Originally Posted by Ziemas View Post
I've never heard of tipping at a buffet, although each time I travel back to the States (once every five years or so) it seems more and more people are expecting tips. Last time I was there the kid dipping out ice cream at the ice cream parlor expected a tip.

I speak as someone who has spent much time as a waiter and barman; WTF?

Ziemas- You know that Toledo has some of the best restaurants around. I won't name but a few that stick in my head like Loma Linda's and Spaghetti Warehouse were two of my favorites. The service was always good and I tipped generously. Down here in Tampa, you have to ask for a napkin for Cryin out loud! Last night the Wife and I went to one of our "regular places" [won't say favorites]. The chicken wings were still raw and I told the waiter that specifically when he asked if I was through. You would think a decent place would take off the lousy $4.00 for the 6 wings, wouldn't you? No friggin' way, this waiter just brings the bill so I paid for the wings then left a very lousy tip. Waitresses and waiters reading this take note of what I just said. I do not expect extraordinary service, just decent service with a smile and food worthy of human consumption. If I don't, you will know, and it will be where it hurts, right in your wallet.
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20% ??? HOLY CRAP

A society where tipping is the norm is sick to begin with. To cater to that and even inflate it to something as insane as 20% is just fuelling that sickness.

I loathe tipping.
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Originally Posted by Tom Stormcrowe View Post
Tips for full serve only......

15-20%

Poor service gets a 1¢ tip, that way, they know I didn't forget and just made a statement about their poor service.
I've tipped TWO cents before. Twice the coins for twice the annoyance.
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Depends - at a full service sit down restaurant, about 15-20% depending on how good the service is. At a buffet, maybe $1 depending on how good the server is at refilling drinks (if you have to get your own drinks then $0)

The 'tip cups' that are popping up everywhere are getting annoying. Timmies, starbucks, ice cream, slurpees. Why do people think that counter service deserves a tip? I have always thought that if there is some personal service or if someone goes above and beyond, then fine, but to put out a tip cup 'cause you poured a cup of coffee - that's pushing it
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I eat out so seldomly, so I tip well when the occasion arises. They have to really piss me off for me
not to leave ANY tip, but it happens once in a great while. Service around my haunts is usually pretty
adequate.
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