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Old 09-23-07, 07:28 PM
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Would you consider not having children if you had poor genes?

Would you consider not reproducing for the fact that you yourself carry some bad genetics? For example, you have very bad vision, breast cancer (or another form of cancer) runs in your family very strongly and most family members are affected by it, and/or depression or other psychological disorders run in your family, ect...

Do you think it would be wrong to bring another life into this world where there may be a very strong chance they develop something? Anyone considered this or even decided to not have kids becuase of it? Just curious. Thanks
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it didn't stop my parents.
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it didn't stop my parents.


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Old 09-23-07, 07:32 PM
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it didn't stop my parents.
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Old 09-23-07, 08:10 PM
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Mediocre DNA or not, I'm not having kids. I'd rather have nice cars and more freedom.
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Old 09-23-07, 08:12 PM
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One can know so much nowadays.... I suspect that the things one really learns now is enough to abort most very unviable fetuses very early on. I really don't know from personal experience anymore. But if one learns of a particular susceptibility which is likely to present during the life of the fetus, and if the parents can arrange for care of such, assuming that the "deformity" is one of life-enduring consequences, then why not give life to that child, assuming that a way to care for it, longterm, is planned....

Just askin'.... I knew some parents who did that in the 60's. This gal is now a productive member of society via a special program that only became available in recent years. And she enjoys playing doubles tennis with a particular voracity (like her dad).... And she could kick my butt. :-)
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Old 09-23-07, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Michigander View Post
Mediocre DNA or not, I'm not having kids. I'd rather have nice cars and more freedom.
+1 (except not cars... maybe bikes or horses)
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Old 09-23-07, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by VegaVixen View Post
But if one learns of a particular susceptibility which is likely to present during the life of the fetus, and if the parents can arrange for care of such, assuming that the "deformity" is one of life-enduring consequences, then why not give life to that child, assuming that a way to care for it, longterm, is planned....
And thereby adding undesirable traits into the gene pool.

Not necessarily saying that's my point of view... not saying it isn't, either... just putting a different perspective out there.
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Old 09-23-07, 08:27 PM
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Baybuh, when you are with the right person, you will accept the most minimally-acceptable person into life, and you will find a way to support the difficult cause of that small one. You will find a way not only to support that little one, but you'll find a way to support research that supports that little one's living. And this is good, and it betters the effort of science to support them, and others who come after them, as callous as that sounds. I've been there.

Love them, give them the best life you can. But be prepared for the fact that, for some, life very unceremoniously and abruptly ends...

I'm so sorry if this is the case....
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Old 09-23-07, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by aprilm View Post
And thereby adding undesirable traits into the gene pool.

Not necessarily saying that's my point of view... not saying it isn't, either... just putting a different perspective out there.
Well thats if the said person reproduces, the probability of which is probably pretty small but still finite. A dilemma indeed.

Me, personally, I would try to reason with the other half to see if I can get away with not having children in that case.
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Old 09-23-07, 09:02 PM
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Baybuh, it's very human to want children. If you know of a specific "DNA" issue aforehand, why not "chance" like so many of us have? You surely know of probable "issues" by now?
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Old 09-23-07, 09:28 PM
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I have perfectly good genes and don't intend on having children anyway -- and to be honest I don't think it matters in the grand scheme of things. Just take a walk to any shopping centre around here on a Saturday afternoon, or watch the way the notorious Gold Coast motorists behave at anytime, and you'll soon realise that plenty of people with bad genes have already made the decision to have children (and no, this is not a humorous or sarcastic post in any way). Personally, I'd feel more guilt about bringing someone into that environment than anything I'd be leaving behind.
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Old 09-23-07, 09:51 PM
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The advances in medicine, technology, computers, etc. are consistently revolutionizing what can be done for children born with disabilities. There are people all around you that you don't even know have depression, or bipolar disorder, or were born with heart problems, or born deaf. New medications, new surgical breakthroughs, artificial limbs. The list goes on and on. No guarantees, but heh, if you want to have kids, do it. P.S. My son was expected to die a day after being born 3 months early. 70% chance he would have a disability. And no, we didn't have to have him. He's now the coolest effing 13-year old I know
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Old 09-23-07, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
Would you consider not reproducing for the fact that you yourself carry some bad genetics? For example, you have very bad vision, breast cancer (or another form of cancer) runs in your family very strongly and most family members are affected by it, and/or depression or other psychological disorders run in your family, ect...

Do you think it would be wrong to bring another life into this world where there may be a very strong chance they develop something? Anyone considered this or even decided to not have kids becuase of it? Just curious. Thanks

I have thought about this quite a bit. My parents, grand parents and beyond that all "parents" have been very sick and died very early. My fiance's family has their own list of problems on the other spectrum of physiology which don't match with my side. If we had kids, they have a huge chance to be sick for their life.

Would I act (or not act on it)...not sure, I am not at that stage where having a kid is feasible. But it will definitely be something I consider.

But there are other considerations for me too. World population, the existing "global warming" etc. There are others but don't feel like discussing politics.
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I'd do it just to piss people off.
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Old 09-23-07, 10:31 PM
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I think Harvey Danger said it best.
"Been around the world and found that only
stupid people are breeding
the creatins cloning and feeding
and I don't even own a tv"
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Old 09-23-07, 11:51 PM
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Harvey Birdman said it better...

"I'll take the case!"

unrelated. but still.


I only plan to breed if I can be certain my spawn will be a world leader. As of now, this seems unlikely. Possibly an upper level minion, but leader... that's just pushing it.
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Classic1 didnt! Hell, he had a kid AFTER he realised he had a receding hair line. That is just pain wrong!!!
 
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i had all intention on ending my genetic legacy for various reasons, one of several being i carry several undesirable traits. poor vision strong chance of psychosis , markers for diabetes and sickle cell. among a long list of other things.

i was on the road to getting a vasectomy, but she got pregnant on purpose, and had to stay off her bipolar meds to keep it, so that poor child is ****ed either way it goes
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The diabetes thing is what always gets me when considering reproduction, aside from various other things related to the post coitus. My father died a rather painful death from diabetes related complications, I've been lucky so far in my life to not have diabetes though I get tested fairly regularly. I'm just not sure if it's worth passing on such a terrible potential to an offspring that I personally have a hard time justifying. In my family the "every other generation" thing has held true for some time, with me being among the fortunate few. Aside from passing on the family name/legacy, I feel little need to have children that might be subjected to the same fate as my father, aunt, and grandfather. Adding problems of my own to that which may be part environment or part heredity (bonus points to whoever picks up where that quote is from) just makes it seem irrational. At the same time, I love the little buggers and really do enjoy watching them develop. Teaching swimming lessons for a couple years was one of the most satisfying experiences of my life.
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Old 09-24-07, 12:35 AM
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Type 1 or 2?
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type 1. My father was diagnosed when he was 13. I seem to have well escaped that range but It's still something that runs through my mind with a great frequency. It's not a glamorous way to die. The circumstances surrounding it are even less so.
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Raising a child is the most fulfilling and joyful thing I have ever done. By far, the best thing so far I have done for the planet. She is a better person than I will ever hope to be. I feel sorry for the self absorbed folks who look for excuses to not have them. They do not know what they are missing.
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