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Old 09-24-07, 08:54 PM
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Music download site ???

I recently purchased an mp3 player (Sandisk sansa) and am busy converting my limited CD collection. Does anyone have recommendations on a good music download site? I'm a strong believer in paying artists for their work, so I'm looking for a pay site. However I don't want any hokey restrictions on the license usage. I just want to be able to download the song and use it on my portable mp3 player, computer, etc. Some sites charge you a monthly fee and as long as you pay it you have access to all of their songs. I'm not interested in this type of service.

I've checked out a few sites, however they seem to have very limited selections in the Jazz, Blues and World music sections. All seem to have decent Rock selections.

BTW, if this topic has already been raised, I'd be surprised if it hadn't, could you please provide a link to the thread. I did a quick search and didn't find what I was looking for.
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If you're going to pay for it, just buy the cds. That way you can compress the files however you want, use them however you want and you'll have a back up when your sansa crashes.
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CDs are your only option.

Any site where you are buying music to own (not rent like napster or rapsody or whatever) is going to have some sort of DRM... record labels require it.

Now itunes has just started iTunes Plus, where for 1.29 you can buy high bit rate (256) DRM free music, but it is only on limited songs (I believe only universal records)...other than that it is still 99 cents for the apple DRMed file (which you can burn to a CD, DRM free.... so you can burn to a CD, and then rip to your computer without any protection and convert it however you'd like.
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It has been a while since last I got songs from this place, but http://www.allofmp3.com was quite possibly the very best source for online music as of a few years ago.
The music was encoded on the fly in whatever format you chose (wma, mp3, ogg, FLAC, etc) and the price was 1c per meg, which came out to about a nickel per 256k mp3 which is pretty decent quality for compressed music.
The site is located in Russiaand we all know how they like to flaunt the laws, so in their country it is legit... but getting music from them is only as lawful as your morals... luckily I have little to none.
I have spent upwards of $150 at that place, so I'm not apprehensible about giving them money, but others might be, assuming they are still around that is.
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in other words it's illegal... the artists do not get any sort of royalties which is what the OP was concerned about.
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Originally Posted by Frugle View Post
in other words it's illegal... the artists do not get any sort of royalties which is what the OP was concerned about.
Actually, they offer royalties to the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry, but last I heard the IFPI refused to accept the payments.
The artists themselves get less than 5% of royalties (and that's for famed artists) of downloaded music, if the OP feels that strongly it'd be very easy to get the money to the artist to avoid a moral breakdown by purchasing some other marketed item at retail price.
But as I said before, I'm a low moral person, and the bands I listen to are more than happy to let their music go out for free, it's the concerts that bring in their real revenue.
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Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
But as I said before, I'm a low moral person, and the bands I listen to are more than happy to let their music go out for free, it's the concerts that bring in their real revenue.

Usually it's the low moral types that sneak in the show too.
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Originally Posted by Serendipper View Post
Usually it's the low moral types that sneak in the show too.
I am guilty of stealing candy from a baby.
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Originally Posted by Frugle View Post
CDs are your only option.

Any site where you are buying music to own (not rent like napster or rapsody or whatever) is going to have some sort of DRM... record labels require it.

Now itunes has just started iTunes Plus, where for 1.29 you can buy high bit rate (256) DRM free music, but it is only on limited songs (I believe only universal records)...other than that it is still 99 cents for the apple DRMed file (which you can burn to a CD, DRM free.... so you can burn to a CD, and then rip to your computer without any protection and convert it however you'd like.
What a circus.
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I do a lot of pirating but I support the artists I like by paying for tickets or ordering t shirts.
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I abandoned an ethical approach to music acquisition a while ago. I'll buy cd's and merch from artists who aren't big and need support. That said, I feel no shame in taking what someone else has created and enjoying it, free of charge.
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I respect intellectual property laws, myself.
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I respect intellectual property laws, myself.
then you'll never make it in business.
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then you'll never make it in business.
Good thing I'm headed to Academia, huh
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Good thing I'm headed to Academia, huh
another place where theft of intellectual property is rife.
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Did you try eMusic?

They have lots of stuff (but hardly any mainstream) with no DRM.

It ends up being something like $.35 a song, and totally legal.
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Good thing I'm headed to Academia, huh
There is intelligence in Academia?

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have you tried itunes?
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If you're going to pay for it, just buy the cds. That way you can compress the files however you want, use them however you want and you'll have a back up when your sansa crashes.
I have already been doing that. However the selections are dwindling fast. Most music stores are converting to selling DVD movies only. HMV is only a shell of the music store they used to be. I was looking for a Queen album however unless I want "the best of ...." CD's from the old bands I'm out of luck. I have resorted to buying some from a 2nd hand CD store: www.beatgoeson.com. Unfortunately you have to wait quite a while until some of the CD's come in.
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Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
It has been a while since last I got songs from this place, but http://www.allofmp3.com was quite possibly the very best source for online music as of a few years ago.
The music was encoded on the fly in whatever format you chose (wma, mp3, ogg, FLAC, etc) and the price was 1c per meg, which came out to about a nickel per 256k mp3 which is pretty decent quality for compressed music.
The site is located in Russiaand we all know how they like to flaunt the laws, so in their country it is legit... but getting music from them is only as lawful as your morals... luckily I have little to none.
I have spent upwards of $150 at that place, so I'm not apprehensible about giving them money, but others might be, assuming they are still around that is.
Yeah, not an option for me.
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Originally Posted by dubstylee View Post
Did you try eMusic?

They have lots of stuff (but hardly any mainstream) with no DRM.

It ends up being something like $.35 a song, and totally legal.
I took a look at their start page. Looks interesting, depending on what music they have available. You have to register to check out their music selections. I'll try that later when I have more time. Thanks for the suggestion.
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I personally use URGE's subscription service, although I'm ticked that they are moving to Rhapsody, URGE has a lot of bands I like, and they don't lump metal in with rock (which is a peeve of mine.)

Disadvantage: DRM-protected WMAs, but the Sandisk device supports those without issue.
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Originally Posted by Alfster View Post
I have already been doing that. However the selections are dwindling fast. Most music stores are converting to selling DVD movies only. HMV is only a shell of the music store they used to be. I was looking for a Queen album however unless I want "the best of ...." CD's from the old bands I'm out of luck. I have resorted to buying some from a 2nd hand CD store: www.beatgoeson.com. Unfortunately you have to wait quite a while until some of the CD's come in.
Unless you live in Antarctica, you can still find CD's. Find a better music store (most stores can order just about anything you're looking for even if they don't normally stock it), or do like me and buy all your CD's on half.com.

Having a hard copy of your music is worth the extra cost and effort. I've had numerous hard drives crap out on me, so unless you back up religiously, your music will be at risk if it's in your hard drive.
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Anyone who knows how to convert MP3's to share on BikeForums so I can share my music, let me know. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by v1k1ng1001 View Post
If you're going to pay for it, just buy the cds. That way you can compress the files however you want, use them however you want and you'll have a back up when your sansa crashes.
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