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Old 01-28-20, 07:40 PM
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If you like Alfa Romeos ...

Here's a company that does Alfas right ... restoring, upgrading and customizing old examples until they resemble what the GTA (AutoDelta) folks might have imagined if they'd had today's components to work with.

Alfaholics GTA-R.
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Video short about an Alfaholics GTA-R 290 build, based on a 1967 1300 GT Junior and, well, tweaked. 2.3L, 240hp, 7200rpm red line, carbon fiber doors and bonnet, 830kg, $200K+:
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Ferris Bueller said it well: "I must be honest ... I love driving it. It is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up."
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Originally Posted by botty kayer View Post
And I recently saw a rare and very valuable 1930's Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 Touring Spider.
Wow. Don't see those every day.

Offhand, I'd bet that'd easily sell for north of US$5M.

Of course, other variants of the '30s vintage 8C's have sold for much, much more. Such as the 1939 Alfa-Romeo 8C 2900B Lungo Spider that Sotheby's sold back in 2016 at the Monterey auction. A cool $19M and change. One of twelve known to exist. Yum.


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chewybrian that looks like its out of the Wacky Races.

Originally Posted by Clyde1820 View Post
Wow. Don't see those every day.

Offhand, I'd bet that'd easily sell for north of US$5M.

Of course, other variants of the '30s vintage 8C's have sold for much, much more. Such as the 1939 Alfa-Romeo 8C 2900B Lungo Spider that Sotheby's sold back in 2016 at the Monterey auction. A cool $19M and change. One of twelve known to exist. Yum.


I didn't identify it until later but had a feeling it was rare and expensive, but didn't think it was that expensive. And that black Alfa is stunning.

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Cor that Stratos looks great too.

Here's my interesting car spots of the weekend. First up a car I've not seen before, lovely curved coachwork panels on this 1955 Bristol 405.


And here's one from your side of the pond over here in England. You probably see loads of these but I've never seen one in London before, probably because our petrol currently costs about $1.70 a litre. Looks cool though over here in some English rain, and it looks perfect for transporting bicycles. 1977 Chevy El Camino.

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Old 02-04-20, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by botty kayer View Post
Here's my interesting car spots of the weekend ... And ... our petrol currently costs about $1.70 a litre.
Haven't been to Britain, myself. Love the older, stylish cars you've got there. Bummer, on the gas prices. My condolences, but in my neck o' the woods it's currently about ~$0.64/litre or so (or, US$2.45/gal). I've seen it as low as $1.90/gal or so, in neighboring states. Can't imagine prices in the $6/gal range, like you've got in Britain. Ouch.
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Speaking of spendy gasoline prices ...

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Old 02-09-20, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by botty kayer View Post
...And here's one from your side of the pond over here in England. You probably see loads of these but I've never seen one in London before, probably because our petrol currently costs about $1.70 a litre. Looks cool though over here in some English rain, and it looks perfect for transporting bicycles. 1977 Chevy El Camino.
The Chevy pics were DOA unfortunately...

Being a nation of gallons here, some do not realize that $1.70 a LITER is $7.73 a UK gallon. In the US car diesel never really got about $5 or so a gallon during shortages a few years ago, whixh was still preposterous, even for being the son of a late mechanic and station operator.
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Originally Posted by Rollfast View Post
The Chevy pics were DOA unfortunately...

Being a nation of gallons here, some do not realize that $1.70 a LITER is $7.73 a UK gallon. In the US car diesel never really got about $5 or so a gallon during shortages a few years ago, which was still preposterous, even for being the son of a late mechanic and station operator.
I remember the first time I came to the USA on holiday in 1989, to my amazement Americans were complaining as petrol had just gone over $1 a gallon and we paying 3 or 4 times that.

Now, not only is our petrol nearly $8 a gallon, but I live in London and to drive a car into central London you have to pay the congestion charge which is an extra $15 a day. On top of that, central London is also in a ULEZ (ultra low emission zone) so unless you drive a electric or super low emission vehicle you have to pay another $15 a day to drive into town, so that's $30 a day before you've even gone anywhere....which you won't be doing fast as the speed limit is mostly 20 and 30 mph zones, and traffic is so bad you'll be lucky to manage that. London traffic is on average the same speed it was 100 years ago before cars, when it was horses and carts. So here an 800 horse power car gets you across town as the same speed as a 50hp one, and a bicycle of course beats them both

And parking is a nightmare and could be up to $10 an hour to park depending on the area, if you can find a space that is. Parking wardens are everywhere and show no mercy if you park somewhere you're not allowed. A parking ticket is $80, and that doubles to $160 if you don't pay it within 2 weeks. Car insurance is also very expensive in London, a newly qualified driver would be lucky to get insurance on even a tiny 1.0 litre car engine for less than $2500 a year.

So that helps explain why gas guzzlers like the 5.7 litre El Camino are rarely seen here. I don't even own a car, just lots of bikes, but I really appreciate the effort and cost it takes to keep one running here.

Anyway enough British moaning here's some beautiful curvy cars, first up a British V8, Aston Martin Vantage convertible.


Another UK car, an excellent condition Rover P4, produced from 1949-64.


And here's another rare sight over here, another Chevy, this time a Fleetmaster.

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Old 02-10-20, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Clyde1820 View Post
Haven't been to Britain, myself. Love the older, stylish cars you've got there. Bummer, on the gas prices. My condolences, but in my neck o' the woods it's currently about ~$0.64/litre or so (or, US$2.45/gal). I've seen it as low as $1.90/gal or so, in neighboring states. Can't imagine prices in the $6/gal range, like you've got in Britain. Ouch.
I think in general the Americans and the Europeans pay about the same per mile or commute. I like big cars with an appropriate number of cilindres (I like small cars too, midsize not so much) but it seems to me that low gas prices have made the American manufacturers lazy. Especially since the 70's they used lots of gas for little power.

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I remember the first time I came to the USA on holiday in 1989, to my amazement Americans were complaining as petrol had just gone over $1 a gallon and we paying 3 or 4 times that.

Now, not only is our petrol nearly $8 a gallon, but I live in London and to drive a car into central London you have to pay the congestion charge which is an extra $15 a day. On top of that, central London is also in a ULEZ (ultra low emission zone) so unless you drive a electric or super low emission vehicle you have to pay another $15 a day to drive into town, so that's $30 a day before you've even gone anywhere....which you won't be doing fast as the speed limit is mostly 20 and 30 mph zones, and traffic is so bad you'll be lucky to manage that. London traffic is on average the same speed it was 100 years ago before cars, when it was horses and carts. So here an 800 horse power car gets you across town as the same speed as a 50hp one, and a bicycle of course beats them both

And parking is a nightmare and could be up to $10 an hour to park depending on the area, if you can find a space that is. Parking wardens are everywhere and show no mercy if you park somewhere you're not allowed. A parking ticket is $80, and that doubles to $160 if you don't pay it within 2 weeks. Car insurance is also very expensive in London, a newly qualified driver would be lucky to get insurance on even a tiny 1.0 litre car engine for less than $2500 a year.

So that helps explain why gas guzzlers like the 5.7 litre El Camino are rarely seen here. I don't even own a car, just lots of bikes, but I really appreciate the effort and cost it takes to keep one running here.

Anyway enough British moaning
We had an excellent arrangement here (NL). 25 year old cars were road tax free, which meant they could be converted to LPG without paying extra tax, and LPG used to be a quarter or a third of the price of gasoline. LPG burns cleaner than a modern car burns gasoline and it's a byproduct that just get's burned off at the plants in a lot of places. So you could drive a big American V8 like it was doing 14 km to the litre. And there was basic oldtimer insurance (only liability but that's the obligatory part) for 10-15 euro's a month if you did less than 10k a year, people driving oldtimers don't get in accidents very much. A few years ago it was changed to 40 years old cars. Some change was justified, but people with a heavy car on LPG suddenly went from 0 road tax to 2500 a year, or had to remove the entire LPG unit, pollute and pay a lot more in fuel.

But in general, London is congested, the air quality is terrible, and a car needs 12 m2's others can't use for for example 20 bicycles. The issue with driving a car is that it just doesn't work if everybody wants it. Personally I'd like there to be exemptions for cultural heritage. Like if your car makes the city prettier you can park it for free.
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1 of 10 - The 1969 Intermeccanica Murena 429 GT ...
Kind of a cross between a ~1970 Lancia Stratos and an Oldmobile station wagon. Interesting lines, for what it is.
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Old 03-06-20, 11:32 AM
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1 of 10 - The 1969 Intermeccanica Murena 429 GT




I like it, part Ferrari, part hearse

I spotted this 1958 Bentley today, 62 years old and looks as good as new.

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Kind of a cross between a ~1970 Lancia Stratos and an Oldmobile station wagon. Interesting lines, for what it is.
It definitely looks like it was designed by a committee.
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I spotted this 1958 Bentley today, 62 years old and looks as good as new.
That is Beautiful.
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Not as expensive or extravagant as many cars here, but I've always liked the simple elegance of the Pininfarina designed Peugeot 504 cabriolet, and here's a fine example from 1974 I spotted in London today, tres chic.

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Not as expensive or extravagant as many cars here, but I've always liked the simple elegance of the Pininfarina designed Peugeot 504 cabriolet, and here's a fine example from 1974 I spotted in London today, tres chic.

i can see similarities as my 1976 spider
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