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Old 08-08-08, 09:40 PM
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is there a vegetarian way to get all the b-vitamins and creatine?

???

and zinc and all that?
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Old 08-08-08, 10:07 PM
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Why do you want a bunch of B vitamins? They are an unhealthy waste of money.
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Old 08-08-08, 11:01 PM
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There is a point where all you get out of that is really expensive urine.
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Sorry, friend, but I didn't rise to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.

But if you must, go ahead. Just eat the widest variety of veg's you can, and you'll be MOSTLY ok....
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Old 08-08-08, 11:09 PM
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Even the Buddha would eat other people's meat leftovers.
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Old 08-08-08, 11:15 PM
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You can get a whopper of a b-12 serving if you eat sardines (preferably in olive oil).
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Old 08-09-08, 01:17 AM
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Nutritional yeast for B vitamins and a bunch of other stuff. Quite tasty on pasta.
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Vitamin B12:
https://www.veganhealth.org/b12/int

I'll stick with non vegan methods of getting this nutrient, though I do appreciate and use vegan products, I would not go vegan myself. I am contemplating a nearly vegetarian diet, but won't go all the way as I don't think it is natural, since there is no natural way to get B12 from a totally vegan diet.
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Old 08-09-08, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ATAC49er View Post
Sorry, friend, but I didn't rise to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.

But if you must, go ahead. Just eat the widest variety of veg's you can, and you'll be MOSTLY ok....
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Actually there IS a vegetarian way to get your B12. Eggs and dairy.

See, https://www.westonaprice.org/basicnut...minprimer.html

They are also an important source of vit A which comes from animal sources only. Vegetarians claim that they can get all their vit A from vegetables but vegetables contain carotenes which can be CONVERTED to vit A by healthy individuals but many have trouble doing the conversion. Anyway see the link.

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Old 08-09-08, 07:38 AM
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Vegan
Lactovegan
Ovolactovegan
pectovegan
ovolactopectovegan
Omnivore
Carnivore.
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Originally Posted by Dude Abides View Post
Vegan
Lactovegan
Ovolactovegan
pectovegan
ovolactopectovegan
Omnivore
Carnivore.
Actually thats wrong. Only a vegan is a vegan. Most of the others are vegetarian (nothing wrong with vegetarianism) plus Omnivore (which is most of us) and Carnivore which humans aren't.

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Thanks for the clarification, but I was just trying to point out that our species loves to over think our choices (and I was to lazy to write out vegetarian each time). .
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Originally Posted by goldfishin View Post
???

and zinc and all that?

You mean these guys can't convince you to stick with the good stuff?

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Old 08-09-08, 01:17 PM
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How about some kombucha?
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Originally Posted by Shadiyah View Post
How about some kombucha?
Yes Kombucha is an excellent source of some of the B group vitamins. Since I don't consume grains I get most of my vegetable source vit B's from Kombucha. Kombucha is a traditional fermented beverage and if you can get your hands on some traditionally fermented, unpasturised, preferably low alcohol beer then you could get some vit B's from that as well.

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Originally Posted by AnthonyG View Post
Yes Kombucha is an excellent source of some of the B group vitamins. Since I don't consume grains I get most of my vegetable source vit B's from Kombucha. Kombucha is a traditional fermented beverage and if you can get your hands on some traditionally fermented, unpasturised, preferably low alcohol beer then you could get some vit B's from that as well.

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Old 08-09-08, 06:03 PM
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Yes sorry about the low alcohol part. Its like wine in that the benefits of the fermentation process get outweighed by the alcohol when the alcoholic content gets high. Apparently many Africans drink a home brewed sorghum beer which provides an important addition to their nutritional needs.

Kombucha tea is actually slightly alcoholic at 1.5% according to the label on the bottle I buy.

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Originally Posted by Dude Abides View Post
Vegan
Lactovegan
Ovolactovegan
pectovegan
ovolactopectovegan
Omnivore
Carnivore.
First off I don't have a problem if you choose to be a vegan or vegetarian
I was listening to the radio one day. they were discussing types of vegetarians there was some one that said they were a "beady eye vegetarians" He gave a technical name for it . and explained That he could eat animal that had beady eyes like fish shrimp or even a chicken because He could kill it himself??
Under that definition "you can kill it yourself" I can eat about anything I found that kind of amusing .
I do think anyone who eats meat should at least once have to kill and proccessan animal. for a reallity check to the fact that meat doesn't grow in little yellow trays
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Old 08-09-08, 10:09 PM
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not vegan. just vegetarian. i likes my milk and eggs.
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Old 08-09-08, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Shadiyah View Post
How about some kombucha?
so, i'd have to drink 5 of those a day? i bet they're expensive. are they made of poo?
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so, i'd have to drink 5 of those a day? i bet they're expensive. are they made of poo?
Make your own.
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Originally Posted by goldfishin View Post
so, i'd have to drink 5 of those a day?
If your consuming eggs and dairy then you are most likely getting enough in the way of vitamins and minerals so you don't have to worry too much. Preferably have raw egg yolks for maximum nutrition and if you don't think that the eggs you have are safe to consume raw then get better eggs. IE free range organic. I've been consuming free range eggs that aren't necessarily organic for MANY years and I've NEVER had a problem. Make sure the egg is fresh and its OK.

Also consume traditional, full fat dairy and you will get most of what you need. Adding some Kombucha tea to your diet would be helpful but you don't need to try and get all your daily nutritional needs from it. Along with eggs and dairy you get vit B's from grains, preferably whole grains and green leafy vegetables.

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I've been consuming free range eggs that aren't necessarily organic for MANY years and I've NEVER had a problem. Make sure the egg is fresh and its OK.
Yeah, I found the beginnings of an emryo in one of those the other day. It won't stop me from eating eggs, organic eggs, or free range eggs. I just pulled it out with a fork and cooked the rest.
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