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Old 10-26-08, 07:14 PM
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Gear heads..Advice needed....

So, in the near future I shall FINALLY have a garage of my own, and what does said garage need in it??? TOOLS.


So, I need a mechanics tool set. I have the belief of spending the good money on the right tools that will last a lifetime, rather than saving a little now and paying for it later, that being said

1) Craftsman ( ehh)
2) Mac ( never worked with them)
3) Snap-on ( the obvious choice)

The thing thats holding me up, is that even though Snap on is my first choice, when things do break, you have to call them up, send it in ( if there's no truck in your area) and wait. With the crapsman, at least there is a sears close to me...whatcha all think?? Which would you choose?

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Don't be a dumbass. Buy Craftsman tools.

This advice is coming from a former professional mechanic with somewhere between 15 and 20 thousand dollars worth of Snap-On tools. Here's the deal. I buy Snap-On because of their warranty, because I didn't have to drive to Sears, and because their tools are strong enough to last when you use them 50 or 60 hours a week.

There is absolutely no reason for an ameteur (I use that term, not as a derogatory term, but as for someone who doesn't spend full time working on things.) to buy anything better than Craftsman. They are great tools with a great warranty. They don't have the cool look of Snap-On, but they're half the price. You get more tools for your money.
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Buy Craftsman. Dad was in the hand tool business for years, on the manufacturing end, and as an executive. He swore that cheapie tools and Kleins came from the same source and the name made the difference in cost.

Same with things marketed by MAC and Snap On.

I have a garage full of Craftsman. Never had a wrench break on me. They are more than quality enough for a weekend warrior.
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Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
Don't be a dumbass. Buy Craftsman tools.

This advice is coming from a former professional mechanic with somewhere between 15 and 20 thousand dollars worth of Snap-On tools. Here's the deal. I buy Snap-On because of their warranty, because I didn't have to drive to Sears, and because their tools are strong enough to last when you use them 50 or 60 hours a week.

There is absolutely no reason for an ameteur (I use that term, not as a derogatory term, but as for someone who doesn't spend full time working on things.) to buy anything better than Craftsman. They are great tools with a great warranty. They don't have the cool look of Snap-On, but they're half the price. You get more tools for your money.
That's pretty much the impression that I've gotten. With Mac and (especially) Snap-On, you're paying a lot more for a) the name, and b) getting new **** when you break the old ****, when it's absolutely imperative that you're never, ever without the tools that you need to do your job on a daily basis. They may or may not be better quality tools than you can get from Craftsman, but that's not what you're paying for.

Personally, I've never had a problem with Craftsman tools, and wouldn't have any qualms about stocking a garage with one of those eleventy-billion-piece sets of tools.
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Unless I was a professional mechanic, I would stick with Craftsman. Cheaper, and decent quality. If you do a lot of heavier mechanic type work then a higher quality set of tools may be worth while.
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SK when they make the tool needed. Best tools for the money. Craftsman is okay, only when we're talking about simple hand tools with no moving parts. The era where Sears made good power tools and good ratchets and things is gone and dead. For anything more specialized, a lot of stuff will work, what brand you should get depends on what type of tool, and on how much you'll be using the tool in question.
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What will you be working on and how often? If your doing light mechanical work...or restoring a project car then craftsman is probably fine... I work on cars every day...snap on truck comes to me so its convenient. If I was buying tools for home I would probably go craftsman just because sears is everywhere.
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I have mostly Crapsman in my garage simply because I think snapon is over priced.


What am I saying I even have a crapman riding mower...LOL how sad is that.
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I have mostly Crapsman in my garage simply because I think snapon is over priced.


What am I saying I even have a crapman riding mower...LOL how sad is that.
Snap on is not "overpriced" for the quality... but craftsman is "good enough" for most jobs.

they make good rider mowers ...I mean its not a John Deer or anything
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Snap on is not "overpriced" for the quality.
Given the fact that they are eager to give students a big discount, I'd say that they are overpriced, and most of it is paying for their ads.
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Given the fact that they are eager to give students a big discount, I'd say that they are overpriced, and most of it is paying for their ads.
I have never seen a snap on ad in my life....and just because they like to help out beginning mechanics...or the school has a deal with them doesn't mean they are over priced in the first place. Like anything else you pay for good quality. Proof is in the pudding man...in my 20 year stretch I have had to replace about 10 sears ratchets...and only one snap on and the guy fixed it on the truck in about 5 minutes...the craftsmans were not repairable...they just broke... one of them cracked the case around the gears. just cheaper. end result is always the same...You get what you pay for..there is no way around it. I did still suggest that the poster get craftsman though because hes not using them full time in a shop
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Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
Don't be a dumbass. Buy Craftsman tools.

This advice is coming from a former professional mechanic with somewhere between 15 and 20 thousand dollars worth of Snap-On tools. Here's the deal. I buy Snap-On because of their warranty, because I didn't have to drive to Sears, and because their tools are strong enough to last when you use them 50 or 60 hours a week.

There is absolutely no reason for an ameteur (I use that term, not as a derogatory term, but as for someone who doesn't spend full time working on things.) to buy anything better than Craftsman. They are great tools with a great warranty. They don't have the cool look of Snap-On, but they're half the price. You get more tools for your money.
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Also note Craftsman have different "level" tools. Some are much higher in quality than others.
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Craftsman's warranty is good enough that you probably never should have a problem. I've never had a tool break. I had a rusted wrench once that the fine people at Sears replaced though.
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I like the Snap-on calendar, beer-mugs, thermos, and posters. I can tell you that modeling shoots aren't cheap. What that has to do with the quality of their tools, I have no idea. But it certainly makes me like them... Almost as much as the Pirelli calendars...
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Craftsman's warranty is good enough that you probably never should have a problem. I've never had a tool break. I had a rusted wrench once that the fine people at Sears replaced though.
I have seen about 8 or 10 craftsman power tools break, or not even work out of the box. The older stuff was great, the newer stuff, trash that I rarely encounter in the field. Compare their ratchets and gear wrenches to damn near anything else of a comparable price. Newer Craftsman hand tools with moving parts tend to move about as smoothly as a mountain bike with no tires. If you don't believe me, check them out yourself and compare them to other brands. It's junk. I'll use their sockets themselves and a different ratchet, those are alright, but I prefer the well sorted SK sockets instead. The only thing I use that's made by Craftsman is their wrenches.

For power tools, you get more for about the same or a little more money with names like Milwalkee, Delta, Dewalt, Porter Cable, Makita and yes, even Ryobi makes better tools in my experience. Like Nike shoes, I think Craftsman is now a joke.

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SK also makes some unique sockets with built-in universal-joints. Much shorter than a socket + U-joint combo. Really handy for getting into tight spots. Craftsman has gone downhill in the past 5-years, to the point where generic Harbour Freight tools are a better value.
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Craftsman has gone downhill in the past 5-years, to the point where generic Harbour Freight tools are a better value.
Just today, I witnessed that first hand.
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Obviously I'm not up on the latest in tools, so forgive the potentially dumb question, but where does Husky fit in?

And, since I have a rolling chest on my wish list, any comments on those? I've looked at SK, Snap-on, MAC, Husky and Sears sites and tried to find a size I think will fit and compare, as best as possible, apples to apples in terms of size and capacity.

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I think they make some crap, some decent stuff, and some great stuff which amounts to real bargains for the money. It all depends on the exact tool in question.
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Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
Obviously I'm not up on the latest in tools, so forgive the potentially dumb question, but where does Husky fit in?
Husky is OK. Their tools are of decent quality, about as good as Craftsman, although the Craftsman name means you can bring broken tools and have them replaced at any Sears.

Craftsman tools have gone downhill though. Either its the merger with K-Mart, or just the fact that expectations have gone down for how well made a wrench should be.

Just compare socket wrenches and other tools made 10-20 years ago to the ones sold today, and you can tell that Craftsman has gone downhill.

For the best, Snap-on is what you want, but consider price per use. Why pay $500 for a set of tools when a $100 set will do the job and for most people, won't notice the difference. For example, if I was using a torque wrench for a single job, I'd stop by Harbor Freight and find a decent one. However, if I used it in my home shop often, I'd go Craftsman. If I used it daily for work, I'd go Snap-on.
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I can tell you from experience that Husky works just as well on a robot as Snap On or any brand in between. The frequency in which tools are used should dictate how much you spend and what quality to buy.
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