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Old 02-08-09, 02:17 PM
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Nikon D1H

So, Carbonlife hooked me up with this camera, which was waaaaaay cool of him. This is a cool camera. It came out I think in 2001? So you think it'd be showing its age. Nope. Nikon designed it to be fast. Its only 3 megapixel (actually a bit less), but even by todays standards this thing is blazingly fast.

Last night I went downtown to photograph a show for some friends of mine in a band called Suede. I decided to take the D1H along to see how it could handle shooting live music. It did surprisingly well. I shot at an ISO of 1250, and was surprised at how low the noise levels were. I also liked that I could fit almost 500 RAW files on a 2GB card. I'm still editing pics of the show, but here's a couple. Really the problems with the shoot were from red spotlights (hate those) more than anything that was the camera's fault.

Also, John Popper of Blues Traveler surprised everyone, including me, by getting up on stage and doing a tune with the band. I had already filled the card up when he got up there, so I frantically flipped through the images and deleted a couple make room. Only got a couple of him unfortunately(haven't uploaded them yet either).







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Old 02-08-09, 02:27 PM
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Here's one of Mr. John Popper:

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the texas version of suede must be as old as dirt, seeing as the suede (known as London Suede, as i've just discovered) have been around since 1989, and a HELLA lot more sucessfull than the TX version.

btw - did what;s his chops, the gun nut from blues traveler, get a gastric bypass? he's a hella lot thinner than when i saw him play in the east village 20 years ago.

hopefully he sucks less now.
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They're just a cover band, although a really good one I think, and they really know how to work a crowd. I'm sure there are a half dozen bands around the country named Suede. As far as Popper - that's slimmed down? He was a pretty big dude.

Anyway - thread's not about them. It's about how surprised I with the performance of an 8 year old camera. I thought it did a pretty good job.
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gracias - yeah, I kept the ISO speed down because I was worried about noise/grain that I'd get shooting at those speeds on an 8 year old camera. Based on these results I won't hesitate to go to 1600 or maybe even 3200 with it next time.
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I also liked that I could fit almost 500 RAW files on a 2GB card.
Yeah when you're shooting in darkish settings (and when the color balance is complicated), raw is the way to go, and that's when you really appreciate the small files sizes.


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gracias - yeah, I kept the ISO speed down because I was worried about noise/grain that I'd get shooting at those speeds on an 8 year old camera. Based on these results I won't hesitate to go to 1600 or maybe even 3200 with it next time.
I'm surprised you were able to get decent shutter speeds at anything less than ISO1600. What f-stop were you shooting at? Now imagine if they came out with a 3-megapixel DSLR with today's technology. You could shoot in almost total darkness and get clean images.

Did you use noise-reduction software? Those images look awful clean for ISO1250.
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no noise reduction post processing and no noise reduction set in the camera (that I'm aware of - haven't looked to see if it has a setting for that) that's what blew me away - how clean the images were. It was dark. my shutter speeds were anywhere from a 30th of a second to a 60th of a second at f1.8 - 2.2.
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Wow, excellent quality at that ISO. Very impressive.

Also, I think I have the same shirt that John Popper does, albeit in a much smaller size.
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I'd take my old broken 1D over my new shiny 40D any day...which reminds me, i need to get that thing fixed.
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Yeah when you're shooting in darkish settings (and when the color balance is complicated), raw is the way to go, and that's when you really appreciate the small files sizes.




I'm surprised you were able to get decent shutter speeds at anything less than ISO1600. What f-stop were you shooting at? Now imagine if they came out with a 3-megapixel DSLR with today's technology. You could shoot in almost total darkness and get clean images.

Did you use noise-reduction software? Those images look awful clean for ISO1250.
The D3 does a pretty damn good job...
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Wow, excellent quality at that ISO. Very impressive.

Also, I think I have the same shirt that John Popper does, albeit in a much smaller size.
Yeah, honestly it looks better than the D80 I sold last year. If it had looked this good at high ISO's, I'd still be shooting Nikon.
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Actually it's got me wanting to get some more lenses for it.
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Pic of the camera (taken with my K20 at 3200 ISO btw - forgot I had left it set at that. This isn't ful rez though). Fantastic build quality. They just don't make them like this anymore. (for under $7k anyway).

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Pic of the camera (taken with my K20 at 3200 ISO btw - forgot I had left it set at that. This isn't ful rez though). Fantastic build quality. They just don't make them like this anymore. (for under $7k anyway).

And how much do you suppose that camera cost when it was new?
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Don't remember exactly - I want to say $2k - $3k. They can be had fairly cheap online now. Great bargain as I think they're still highly functional cameras.
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Try an MSRP of $5,000 when it first came out. It's a pro-level platform and while it does many things well, it's far from perfect, especially when you compare it to the Canon equivalents.
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well, that's fine. Personally I think the camera was ahead of its time. Aside from the low megapixel count it is not showing its age at all. Super fast and low noise at extremely high ISO's. For what you can get one for today I think they're a bargain.
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D1H: 11 autofocus points
1D: 45 autofocus points

D1H: 5fps
1D: 8fps

D1H: 3mp
1D: 4mp

D1h: Not weather sealed
1D: Weather sealed

Considering they were released the same year, i'm not sure how the Nikon was ahead of the time

...just sayin
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i used my mother's 5D mkii over Xmas :damn:
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i used my mother's 5D mkii over Xmas :damn:
yessir

My cousin has a 5D...i love that thing.
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Lance's personal photographer Liz Kreutz just sold her 5D (according to twitter) - she didn't care for it for what she does. She does shoot Canon though.
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Lance's personal photographer Liz Kreutz just sold her 5D (according to twitter) - she didn't care for it for what she does. She does shoot Canon though.
At the end of the day i'd rather have a 1DmkIII or 1DsMKIII at that, but for the cost, the 5D and 5DII are stunning.
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yessir

My cousin has a 5D...i love that thing.
the 5D is fantastic, no doubt. the 5D mkii - WOW.

the things that stood out was the easier to use interface, and the self cleaning processor.
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the 5D is fantastic, no doubt. the 5D mkii - WOW.

the things that stood out was the easier to use interface, and the self cleaning processor.
Interestingly, the feedback i've heard from 5D owners is that they didn't do enough to the 5DmkII.

If they could add enough AF power in there to track sports, i really think they would improve sales...like...a lot.
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