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Old 04-04-09, 11:40 AM
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Where to live in Western USA

I'm getting tired of the northeast and I figure there are some good places to live. The priority is a good natural environment, good land, anything, I don't want to live in a city, I want the outskirts. Good mountains, good rivers, good wildlife. Say you could choose, what would it be? Tahoe lake area looks cool, what else?

I want completely new ecosystems to explore, I'm tired of typical New England environment.
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I'm getting tired of the northeast and I figure there are some good places to live. The priority is a good natural environment, good land, anything, I don't want to live in a city, I want the outskirts. Good mountains, good rivers, good wildlife. Say you could choose, what would it be? Tahoe lake area looks cool, what else?

I want completely new ecosystems to explore, I'm tired of typical New England environment.
Santa Barbara area is awesome....great weather, mountains, bike trails, college, beaches. Only drawback is cost.
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If you're tired of the northeast, lots of the PNW (at least on the west side) will appear similar. Even though I'm actually in Portland Oregon these days, I'm quite fond of the desert, and I really liked New Mexico when I lived there. The most serious likely drawback to New Mexico is low wages and possible difficulties finding work.
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In Santa Barbara one finds close access to less urban areas by heading out to the Solvang.. If you can afford it and want year round cycling , definitely the San Diego area or Santa Barbara.
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in NM you can always be border patrol
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Old 04-04-09, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by randya View Post
If you're tired of the northeast, lots of the PNW (at least on the west side) will appear similar. Even though I'm actually in Portland Oregon these days, I'm quite fond of the desert, and I really liked New Mexico when I lived there. The most serious likely drawback to New Mexico is low wages and possible difficulties finding work.

PNW would be a much different ecosystem, much wetter, more ferns and moss, I think some different trees. But that's too rainy for me I think.
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Actually, Portland only gets on average about 36" of rain per year, that's less than many NE cities, but the rainfall patterns are dramatically different, so it seems wetter here. Of course once you go into the Coast Range or the Cascades, rainfall amounts increase dramatically. Winters are milder here and summers are a lot less humid, both plusses over the NE in my book.
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Avoid Los Angeles.
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Another country?
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Avoid Los Angeles.
Why? I like it here where the smog gathers in the valley

But yeah, SD or SB counties are very nice. Pricey, but nice.
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Sunset Magazine's lists of "best small towns" in the west....a lot of non-obvious ideas in here.

https://www.sunset.com/travel/top-20-...0400000040172/


These are the top 5 for "getting outdoors," starting with Moab, Utah...

https://www.sunset.com/travel/best-sm...0400000040160/
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Canada, Central America, Brazil, Spain, Italy, Portugal? If you can speak the language.
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Originally Posted by ModoVincere View Post
in NM you can always be border patrol
Santa Fe New Mexico is not close to the border, but it really nice.
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Antarctica's pretty different.
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About the southwest, be aware that illegals have driven the wages down to sometimes less than half the standard wages of elsewhere, especially for anything blue colar. It costs less to live, but it is certainly harder to get by. Keeping some distance between you and mexico is a good way to ensure higher wages in many cases.
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You need to give us some more parameters:

What sports/outdoor activities are most important to you? dirt or road bike? ski? surf? climb? fly?
Do you need to consider work? what do you do?
How much can you afford to pay in rent, or are you going to buy? Price range?
What kind of weather do you want? Hot or mild? Snow or no snow? Seasons?
Political leanings?
Does "legalize" mean what I think it means?
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Originally Posted by Michigander View Post
blah blah blah blah.
No habla ingles, Johnny Applefeces.
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Originally Posted by huhenio View Post
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blah blah blah blah.
No habla ingles, Johnny Applefeces.
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Boulder/Golden/etc etc..., Colorado[/endthread]
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Originally Posted by valygrl View Post
You need to give us some more parameters:

What sports/outdoor activities are most important to you? dirt or road bike? ski? surf? climb? fly?
Do you need to consider work? what do you do?
How much can you afford to pay in rent, or are you going to buy? Price range?
What kind of weather do you want? Hot or mild? Snow or no snow? Seasons?
Political leanings?
Does "legalize" mean what I think it means?

bike, hike, camp, kayak, garden
biology, ecology, wildlife ecology
rent
anything but desert
liberal
maybe
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Originally Posted by skinnyone View Post
Boulder/Golden/etc etc..., Colorado[/endthread]
Sorry... Colorado is full. You'll need to choose again.
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Originally Posted by huhenio View Post
No habla ingles, Johnny Applefeces.
Are you seriously trying to debate what I am saying, or just attempting to make a silly joke?

Your state, while easily my favorite state in the country, has the very lowest wages in the USA.
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The lack of reliable water would prevent me from living anywhere in the southwest - plus you have to deal with goathead thorns from Colorado, south. California is expensive, much of Colorado and Utah are too desolate (plus they have that water thing sometimes not going on). Nevada?

I would consider western Oregon or Washington, but that's about it.
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