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Old 04-06-09, 11:58 AM
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decisions, decisions!!

So, I was intending to sign a 3-month lease (April 25 - July 25) and reconsider my options here in CO then.

Now, I'd like to explore the below options, and see if I can talk them into a June start, so I can accomplish all my goals here for the summer, triathlon, work, etc. (I know, I need to either go or get off the pot- but that's my idea plan). At the very least I'll meet with the big bossman and get a feeling for things.

An email from the old boss (in MN):
I thought that I would let you know that we are accepting applicants for your old position and additional responsibilities.

etc... etc....

The role is more of a creative/technical oversight job. Do you have any plans to move back to Minnesota or- do you know anyone who may be interested in applying?
My reply:
That got some ideas rolling. I have considered moving back for a few reasons, but I've also got a few reasons to stick around here as well.

I'll be in the cities over the weekend (late thursday through tuesday afternoon), maybe we can find a few minutes to chat. Would it work for me to stop by Friday or Monday?

I'm interested in hearing more about what direction the company (and this position are taking), as well as your time lines for getting someone in place (and how that might fit with my time line here).
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Hi Arti. Pay raise involved?
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MN is really, really cold. From a NYer, that's saying something.

When young, unattached people with their whole lives in front of them ask this question, I advise moving to the place you want to be, not just the next check. Until retirement, you will never be as mobile as you are now. Where is your dream location? MN? Hawaii? Europe? Skokie, IL?
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Originally Posted by Spreggy View Post
MN is really, really cold. From a NYer, that's saying something.

When young, unattached people with their whole lives in front of them ask this question, I advise moving to the place you want to be, not just the next check. Until retirement, you will never be as mobile as you are now. Where is your dream location? MN? Hawaii? Europe? Skokie, IL?
+1, and is there a pay raise involved?
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Originally Posted by ilikebikes View Post
Hi Arti. Pay raise involved?
that's a good question. I took a 50% pay raise coming out to CO (and am overpaid for my place in the corporate world, IMHO. I don't expect to be making this at my next job) I would be happy with what I am currently making- and also, a bit less if I decide that the personal benefit of going back is greater than it is here.

I would not go back for the paycheck I left behind.

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MN is really, really cold. From a NYer, that's saying something.

When young, unattached people with their whole lives in front of them ask this question, I advise moving to the place you want to be, not just the next check. Until retirement, you will never be as mobile as you are now. Where is your dream location? MN? Hawaii? Europe? Skokie, IL?
I moved out to CO from MN last fall as an adventure (for a job), and have had a great time. Not sure its the right fit, though. As for my ideal location? I'm also not sure about that. I do know that I'm very portable and am not opposed to doing it all over again somewhere else.
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Originally Posted by artifice View Post
that's a good question. I took a 50% pay raise coming out to CO (and am overpaid for my place in the corporate world, IMHO. I don't expect to be making this at my next job) I would be happy with what I am currently making- and also, a bit less if I decide that the personal benefit of going back is greater than it is here.
Even if you think you're overpaid, use your current salary as a bargaining chip. Even if they talk you down a bit and you accept, they'll know they have to treat you well, since you can make more elsewhere.

Since it's apparent that you're able to do so, I'd second the "follow your heart, not your wallet" sentiment.
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((I followed my wallet out here))

my savings account is thrilled.
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Originally Posted by artifice View Post
that's a good question. I took a 50% pay raise coming out to CO (and am overpaid for my place in the corporate world, IMHO. I don't expect to be making this at my next job) I would be happy with what I am currently making- and also, a bit less if I decide that the personal benefit of going back is greater than it is here.

I would not go back for the paycheck I left behind.

I moved out to CO from MN last fall as an adventure (for a job), and have had a great time. Not sure its the right fit, though. As for my ideal location? I'm also not sure about that. I do know that I'm very portable and am not opposed to doing it all over again somewhere else.

Don't ever, ever, tell your employer that!
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Old 04-06-09, 12:26 PM
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Even if you think you're overpaid, use your current salary as a bargaining chip. Even if they talk you down a bit and you accept, they'll know they have to treat you well, since you can make more elsewhere.

Since it's apparent that you're able to do so, I'd second the "follow your heart, not your wallet" sentiment.

Sorry 'bout the dis, but thats BS, your heart usually leads you to a place where your happy, but poor, follow your wallet and you'll prob end up finacially stable with the option of being happy you'll thank me when your older Arti.
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Old 04-06-09, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ilikebikes View Post
Sorry 'bout the dis, but thats BS, your heart usually leads you to a place where your happy, but poor, follow your wallet and you'll prob end up finacially stable with the option of being happy you'll thank me when your older Arti.
lol. I'm not unhappy here. I'm having a bit of "the grass is greener" syndrome, I think.
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I think you shoud stay where the gettin's good, but thats just me.
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Old 04-06-09, 01:48 PM
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Sorry you're struggling with this, arti. It's especially hard when all your loved ones are so far away. Talk the bf into moving out here.
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Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
Sorry you're struggling with this, arti. It's especially hard when all your loved ones are so far away. Talk the bf into moving out here.
lol. funny thing about that. He'd love to!! Up until this weekend, it was mostly about my job security, etc.

So yesterday I chattted with him, and he says "so, I think I'm going to throw a wrench in our relationship"-- wtf. My heart hit the floor.

It's ok, though! Its good news.

Friday he was at a networking event for his industry and got an inside hookup to a possible free ride for a master's in his industry, likely through Notre Dame. I'M SO EXCITED FOR HIM! If its meant to be, it will work out, we need to follow our career paths right now and everything else will fall into place.
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Man! What a dope he is! Hell! I'll move up there with you! Tell you what, I'll get seperated from my wife (can't date you if I'm married) get a leg extention operation ( I know you like 'em taller) and I'll bring my pension along (to add to the pot) see you soon!
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Originally Posted by ilikebikes View Post
Man! What a dope he is! Hell! I'll move up there with you! Tell you what, I'll get seperated from my wife (can't date you if I'm married) get a leg extention operation ( I know you like 'em taller) and I'll bring my pension along (to add to the pot) see you soon!
excellent. I'll keep your offer in mind. so far you are number 1,603,887 on the waiting list.

Please retain your number.

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Originally Posted by ilikebikes View Post
Man! What a dope he is! Hell! I'll move up there with you! Tell you what, I'll get seperated from my wife (can't date you if I'm married) get a leg extention operation ( I know you like 'em taller) and I'll bring my pension along (to add to the pot) see you soon!
I didn't read that as pension the first time through, if you get my drift

Artifice, I've read a bunch of your posts on this subject, and I think you should stay in Colorado longer. It is tempting to convince yourself that it is just not for you, and that you want to move home. But if you don't stay and really give yourself to your new life, you will probably miss out on substantial opportunities for personal growth and the chance to learn new things about yourself. You need to stay past the point of missing home -- and if you never do, you will know where your heart really lies.
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