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Old 06-06-09, 08:49 PM
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Ethical question of the day

On the last few blocks of my ride today I spotted the unmistakable shape of folded greenbacks laying in the road. Of course I stopped to snag the booty but did look around to see if the rightful owner was still near. Turned out to be three bucks. Nope, I was nowhere near da strip club

My ethical question is this:
What found-money dollar amount would it take for you to make a serious effort (e.g. notify police) to find the rightful owner? $50, 100, 1000, or "conscience...what's that?"
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Old 06-06-09, 08:53 PM
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I'd keep it if it was less than $10k in small unmarked bills.
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Well, the other day I found a fifty dollar bill on the street. I didn't turn it in. I imagine that I would get concerned about the owner who lost money if the amount started to exceed $100. Anything less than that and it's not worth my while dropping it off at the police station.
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Five.

It was three weeks ago today.
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If it was a large amount I would tell myself that it's drug money and I'm doing society a favor by keeping it. So if it was any amount, and no one asked for it back I would keep it.

If someone put up an ad looking for it I would give it back.
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Once I found a wallet with $800 in it.

I was considering keeping it instead of returning it, but then I thought to myself, "How would I feel if it was my wallet that had been lost?"











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I was at a golf outing today. One of the participants twisted her ankle so badly she thought she broke it. The boyfriend was running the outing and handed a friend an envelope with about 4k of cash in it while they were getting her in the car to take her to the hospital (why he didn't just bring a check will be found out Monday). Friend places envelope on the top of the car and forgets about it. A lady finds it walking down the road and brings it to the course (it said golf outing on it).

She gets a ride home with a 36" lcd tv, a couple hundred $ worth of gift certificates, and a clear conscience...

The guy running the outing was very lucky. The odd thing is he wanted to pay for the outing beforehand but the people at the course wanted the money after.

I figure about $100 would make it worth the hassle.
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Back in junior high, I spotted a bill on the ground at the bus stop, which just happened to be a C-store. Turned out to be a $100 bill. I put in my pocket and went to school. After school got out, I went back to the C-store. There were no signs about lost money and the clerk didn't ask if I'd seen anything. So....

I bought two of my buddies a music tape apiece (they were with me when I found the $$), and I bought myself my first (and only) drop bar bike, a Flying O ten speed.
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Back in junior high, I spotted a bill on the ground at the bus stop, which just happened to be a C-store. Turned out to be a $100 bill. I put in my pocket and went to school. After school got out, I went back to the C-store. There were no signs about lost money and the clerk didn't ask if I'd seen anything. So....
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Loose cash, prolly around $200. If it had any kind of marking -- in an envelope with words on it, etc. -- $20. It's all about the nexus of amount of money vs. likelihood of finding the real owner.
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anything less than $20 I'll keep, if it's not contained in a wallet.
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Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
No.
Hmm. That's the only place I've ever heard and seen "C-store" used, is all.

It's odd, you drive over the state line, and convenience stores disappear, replaced with C-stores.
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I once found a wallet with about $60 in it while I was riding. I returned it to the owner.

Another time I was bonking on a long ride, and crawling up a hill. I saw a black nylon pouch laying in the road. I stopped, found $20 inside, along with some notes. I used the $20 to get a slice of pizza at the next town, finished the ride, and then was able to return the money (with a new $20) to the rightful owner.
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Depends, but not really. I'd turn it in.

An obvious drug dealer roll - smaller bills, 50's to 100's and in a roll - I'd probably look at it for a bit and turn it in and kick myself in the butt on the way home.

Other pile of money - dealers here don't have the big gigundous bills, I would turn it in and would advertize it in the classifieds as to where they should go to get it (cops) - shoot some of these older people do NOT have an account and, unbelievably, the carry their wealth on them --- I am so scared for some of these little elderly women walking downtown - they look 95 - and with big giant purses - and they are walking through the notorious block of bus stops with the city gangs hanging. I don't even like doing that.

So for that reason - I'd turn it in - never know who lost it. Oh and if the drug dealer "lost it", hehe - he'll most likely have to show an ID, etc to get that back. FAH!
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Hmm. That's the only place I've ever heard and seen "C-store" used, is all.

It's odd, you drive over the state line, and convenience stores disappear, replaced with C-stores.
Would you have preferred me to use the more colorful terms? Like Git'n *****, Stop and Rob, or Grab-n-Stab (or is it Stab-n-Grab)? My favorite (name wise) is a real chain of stores called Kum and Go.
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Depends, but not really. I'd turn it in.

An obvious drug dealer roll - smaller bills, 50's to 100's and in a roll - I'd probably look at it for a bit and turn it in and kick myself in the butt on the way home.

Other pile of money - dealers here don't have the big gigundous bills, I would turn it in and would advertize it in the classifieds as to where they should go to get it (cops) - shoot some of these older people do NOT have an account and, unbelievably, the carry their wealth on them --- I am so scared for some of these little elderly women walking downtown - they look 95 - and with big giant purses - and they are walking through the notorious block of bus stops with the city gangs hanging. I don't even like doing that.

So for that reason - I'd turn it in - never know who lost it. Oh and if the drug dealer "lost it", hehe - he'll most likely have to show an ID, etc to get that back. FAH!
Reminds me of a recent stupid criminals story:
Pot dealer calls cops to get money back The world is their stage.
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If it's a wallet, I'll track down the owner and give their stuff back, money included.

A roll of cash laying on the ground is finder's keepers, though.
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Would you have preferred me to use the more colorful terms? Like Git'n *****, Stop and Rob, or Grab-n-Stab (or is it Stab-n-Grab)? My favorite (name wise) is a real chain of stores called Kum and Go.




Oh, now that's not good!
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I've found up to $20 several times and just kept it.


I once came home around midnight and found a wallet on the floor in the lobby of my building with $300.

It was a Friday night (payday?). I would have absolutely returned that, but there were only two things there - a temporary permit card to work in the U.S. (person was obviously not a U.S. citizen) and a business card for a local video store.

I called the store and every govt agency i could - no luck tracking him down. I made a sign to put up in my lobby about it, and had a coworker who was bilingual make one in Spanish. No one ever contacted me. Eventually, after about a month, I gave up.

Now y'all are making me think 'drug deal'. We've had several incidents in the past where people snuck into our (locked) lobby and hung out overnight, drinking, dealing and once or twice there was some minor vandalism. At the time I figured it must be legit and innocent - the wallet was right in front of the elevator; I assumed someone could easily drop it while digging for their keys after a long hard day (it couldn't have been there long...)
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If it was in a wallet or clip or marked envelope or anything like that, I'd turn it in regardless of how much or little was in it.

If it was just loose cash floating in the breeze, I guess I wouldn't bother unless it was say $1-200 or more.

I once found $200 cash in the supermarket carpark as a kid, turned it in to my stepdad, who "turned it in" to the police, and never heard a thing about it again. I dunno where in the chain it got absorbed, but six months later I didn't get it back, even though I doubt the rightful owner would've bothered contacting the police.
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Yeah, wallets get returned whether there is money or not. Thinking about the hassle of getting anything in it replaced means its worth more than any money that would be in it.

Money, I've found $40 before, kept that for a while with no one asking about it and then spent it.
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Depends. Loose change is hard to track, so unless there were some indications that it belonged to someone, I would keep it. I always try to return objects and money I know belongs to someone.

I once dropped my wallet while riding around in Hoboken. Someone called me quickly afterwards and returned it. I would want to do the same for someone that drops their wallet by accident, since it really hurts to lose the most important accessory to carry, and potentially risk losing even more of your funds.

To add, a few years ago, my sister found $100 on the floor. She asked some lady if it was hers, and she said yes and took it. She had no idea who it really belonged to, so someone probably made $100.

Coolest find was finding $50 in the garbage! Now, I know lots of debate kids are rich, but throwing out Hamiltons is more money than sense. So I bought a stick of RAM with it and some lunch for a girl I was really into at the time. (Yep, she turned me down.)
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Here is my ethical question of the day. Today I was minding my own business driving my car into work. Just so you all know, I'm a sane driver and very rarely experience road rage. I'm also a better driver than all of you on this forum. Tom Cruise once stated that I'm the best he ever saw, so you know what I'm saying is the truth. Anyway, I was pulling into a parking garage and this stupid chick honked at me and flipped me off. I swear folks, I did nothing wrong and this stupid nutjob decided it was appropriate to give me the bird.

With that said, was I morally obligated to punch this chick in the face? Since I consider my fellow foosters to be the most ethical people on the planet, I desire the appropriate answer from you all. Should I have just gotten out of my car and given this idiot a shiner? Discuss.

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