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Old 06-21-09, 05:38 AM
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Gran Torino

I loved this movie, just watched the DVD last night. Clint Eastwood RULES. I've been watching his movies for nearly 40 years, I don't think I've ever seen a Clint movie I didn't like. From the fluff to the action movies/westerns (love the westerns), but especially his serious efforts at acting and directing (like Mystic River for example), he is a gift to film fans.

Why can't there be more movies like that and less brainless cinematic fare?
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Old 06-21-09, 05:48 AM
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I've asked the same question, and years ago the answer occurred to me one day when staying at a hotel where an "art gallery" was set up in the main lobby.

If art is an expression of the artist's mind, and movie production is considered artistic, then the minds of most of the people doing movie production (and all that entails) fall short at some point on the spectrum of "artibility." Looking at the stuff in that hotel lobby, it was easy to understand why it was not at some more notable place... And that explains, at least for me, why most cinema is likewise both mindless and a waste of money.

I agree that Eastwood, however, has never fallen short.

BTW, I saw Gran Torino at the theater and in terms of addressing the conflicting and oftentimes ironic nuances of human experience, it is a masterpiece.
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Old 06-21-09, 09:35 AM
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One of those movies that really stays with you. That's what makes 'Slumdog Millionaire' successful, despite the fact that it was far less plausible than Gran Torino. Slumdog has conflict, love, redemption, etc. That's what makes a movie powerful. For example we saw 'Taken' with Liam Neeson and the movie was quite entertaining but very far fetched (in too many ways to recount here) and in the end rather pointless and empty. Gran Torino delivered powerful messages. In its own way so did 'Slumdog'. The big message is hope - as Sean Penn's character in 'Milk' says (another memorable Penn performance) 'you gotta give 'em hope'. And audiences respond to films like that.
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
I loved this movie, just watched the DVD last night. Clint Eastwood RULES. I've been watching his movies for nearly 40 years, I don't think I've ever seen a Clint movie I didn't like. From the fluff to the action movies/westerns (love the westerns), but especially his serious efforts at acting and directing (like Mystic River for example), he is a gift to film fans.

Why can't there be more movies like that and less brainless cinematic fare?
I thought that this was one of Eastwoods best movies ever. I saw it back in the first week of release. It's one of those movies that I will enjoy seeing many time over.
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It was a good movie but that kid can't act.
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Old 06-21-09, 12:58 PM
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Bah. Mystic River was twenty minutes too long. When the car pulled away, Clint should have rolled credits right there.
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Originally Posted by BookFinder View Post
I've asked the same question, and years ago the answer occurred to me one day when staying at a hotel where an "art gallery" was set up in the main lobby.

If art is an expression of the artist's mind, and movie production is considered artistic, then the minds of most of the people doing movie production (and all that entails) fall short at some point on the spectrum of "artibility." Looking at the stuff in that hotel lobby, it was easy to understand why it was not at some more notable place... And that explains, at least for me, why most cinema is likewise both mindless and a waste of money.

I agree that Eastwood, however, has never fallen short. :thu mb:

BTW, I saw Gran Torino at the theater and in terms of addressing the conflicting and oftentimes ironic nuances of human experience, it is a masterpiece.
how'd you like the chelsea hotel?
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I like the fluff too. I really enjoyed Space Cowboys. Totally predictable and dumb. And a total joy.
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Pale Rider
Unforgiven
The Outlaw Josey Wales

more of Clint's finest.
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Originally Posted by caloso View Post
Bah. Mystic River was twenty minutes too long. When the car pulled away, Clint should have rolled credits right there.
What movie isn't 20 minutes too long?

I liked your old avatar better by the way.
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Originally Posted by fuzzbox View Post
It was a good movie but that kid can't act.
if by "that kid" you mean all of them, then I agree.
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I just chated with Allen. There is a 'Couch' movie in the works. This is going to be Epic folks!

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P.S. Sorry Allen, I didn't consult you about making said 'Epic Couch Movie' before posting this. I'm an idiot, however we all know this.
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Yeah, I thought it was a great movie. One of his best.
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
I loved this movie, just watched the DVD last night. Clint Eastwood RULES. I've been watching his movies for nearly 40 years, I don't think I've ever seen a Clint movie I didn't like. From the fluff to the action movies/westerns (love the westerns), but especially his serious efforts at acting and directing (like Mystic River for example), he is a gift to film fans.
+1

I might not be quite as heavy a fan as I was not much of a Dirty Harry fan, or the "fluff", but I think he's a brilliant actor and director.

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Why can't there be more movies like that and less brainless cinematic fare?
I don't know, but I agree. I wish there were many more movies of substance and less movies of fluff.
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We just saw it this weekend. It was one of the better movies I'd seen in a while, thanks netflix!
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Originally Posted by fuzzbox View Post
it was a good movie but that kid can't act.
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Just watched it tonight. wow. Pretty damn good movie.
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