Go Back  Bike Forums > The Lounge > Foo
Reload this Page >

Why is hospital some sometimes not preceded by the articles the or a?

Foo Off-Topic chit chat with no general subject.

Why is hospital some sometimes not preceded by the articles the or a?

Old 07-21-09, 08:16 PM
  #1  
spinnaker
Every day a winding road
Thread Starter
 
spinnaker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 6,503

Bikes: 2005 Cannondale SR500, 2008 Trek 7.3 FX, Jamis Aurora

Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3357 Post(s)
Liked 36 Times in 28 Posts
Why is hospital some sometimes not preceded by the articles the or a?

Any English experts out there?

Why is hospital some sometimes not preceded by the articles the or a? Most people that speak British English would say "I was taken to hospital", instead of "I was taken to a hospital" or "I was taken to the hospital". But I have been noticing a log of Americans dropping the article too. Is there any reason for dropping the article, other than laziness?

I also find it interesting that most people would say "I was taken to the hospital" or "I need to go to the store", as if there is only one.

OK language professors, weigh in.
spinnaker is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 08:17 PM
  #2  
jsharr
You Know!? For Kids!
 
jsharr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Just NW of Richardson Bike Mart
Posts: 6,163

Bikes: '05 Trek 1200 / '90 Trek 8000 / '? Falcon Europa

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I blame the Brits.
__________________
Are you a registered member? Why not? Click here to register. It's free and only takes 27 seconds! Help out the forums, abide by our community guidelines.
Originally Posted by colorider View Post
Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
jsharr is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 08:24 PM
  #3  
KingTermite 
On my TARDIScycle!
 
KingTermite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Eastside Seattlite Termite Mound
Posts: 3,925

Bikes: Trek 520, Trek Navigator 300, Peugeot Versailles PE10DE

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Lime flavored conspiracy!
__________________
Originally Posted by coffeecake View Post
- it's pretty well established that Hitler was an *******.
KingTermite is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 08:25 PM
  #4  
x136 
phony collective progress
 
x136's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Hoosey
Posts: 2,973

Bikes: http://velospace.org/user/36663

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I had to read the title of this thread several times to get the gist of what it's about.
__________________
x136 is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 08:40 PM
  #5  
Allen
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,697
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
The Brits can't spell either.
A "u" in color, for shame.
Allen is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 08:42 PM
  #6  
jsharr
You Know!? For Kids!
 
jsharr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Just NW of Richardson Bike Mart
Posts: 6,163

Bikes: '05 Trek 1200 / '90 Trek 8000 / '? Falcon Europa

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
And they call truck lorries and the sidewalk is a the pavement and potato chips are crisps and you won't believe what they call a pack of smokes.
__________________
Are you a registered member? Why not? Click here to register. It's free and only takes 27 seconds! Help out the forums, abide by our community guidelines.
Originally Posted by colorider View Post
Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
jsharr is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 08:43 PM
  #7  
Snicklefritz
Senior Member
 
Snicklefritz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: In the middle of horse country, in The Garden State
Posts: 3,159
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
what do they call a pack of cigarettes?
Snicklefritz is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 08:48 PM
  #8  
Allen
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,697
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by Snicklefritz View Post
what do they call a pack of cigarettes?
A pride parade?


They call a cigarette a f  aggot, seriously.

Last edited by Allen; 07-21-09 at 08:55 PM.
Allen is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 08:49 PM
  #9  
JPradun
Pokes On Spokes
 
JPradun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 824

Bikes: Pedal Force ZX3

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Going on holiday?
JPradun is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 09:01 PM
  #10  
x136 
phony collective progress
 
x136's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Hoosey
Posts: 2,973

Bikes: http://velospace.org/user/36663

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Drive your soddin' lorry to hospital, arse about on the pavement while sucking on a ***, then take the lift up to the vend, drop some brass and Bob's your uncle! Enjoy an ace bag of crisps, but don't bite y'arm off.
__________________
x136 is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 09:03 PM
  #11  
jsharr
You Know!? For Kids!
 
jsharr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Just NW of Richardson Bike Mart
Posts: 6,163

Bikes: '05 Trek 1200 / '90 Trek 8000 / '? Falcon Europa

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I will give the Brits top score for creative name calling. I have a friend who called a shop keeper here "an old battle axe" after receiving very poor service. She has also referred to me as both an anorak and a big girl's blouse. I am quite sure neither were meant as compliments.
__________________
Are you a registered member? Why not? Click here to register. It's free and only takes 27 seconds! Help out the forums, abide by our community guidelines.
Originally Posted by colorider View Post
Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
jsharr is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 09:04 PM
  #12  
CbadRider
Senior Member
 
CbadRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: On the bridge with Picard
Posts: 5,935

Bikes: Specialized Allez, Specialized Sirrus

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 13 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Just don't ask for chips and salsa if you go to there.
__________________
Originally Posted by Xerum 525 View Post
Now get on your cheap bike and give me a double century. You walking can of Crisco!!

Forum Guidelines *click here*
CbadRider is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 09:05 PM
  #13  
jsharr
You Know!? For Kids!
 
jsharr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Just NW of Richardson Bike Mart
Posts: 6,163

Bikes: '05 Trek 1200 / '90 Trek 8000 / '? Falcon Europa

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by CbadRider View Post
Just don't ask for chips and salsa if you go to there.
Else you might end up in hospital whilst on holiday?
__________________
Are you a registered member? Why not? Click here to register. It's free and only takes 27 seconds! Help out the forums, abide by our community guidelines.
Originally Posted by colorider View Post
Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
jsharr is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 09:14 PM
  #14  
UnsafeAlpine
Domestic Domestique
 
UnsafeAlpine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,742

Bikes: Brand New Old Catamount! Schwinn Homegrown, Specialized FSR, Salsa Vaya, Salsa Chile Con Crosso

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The English don't articles before nouns. The Canadians and Australians haven't had the time to move away from that.
UnsafeAlpine is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 09:37 PM
  #15  
USAZorro
Señor Member
 
USAZorro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Florence, KY
Posts: 16,214

Bikes: Mostly English - predominantly Raleighs

Mentioned: 48 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 695 Post(s)
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
There's another sad trend afoot in Pennsylvania. Illustrating the phenomenon will be clearer than attempting to describe it. The lazy folks say things like:

"My car needs fixed."
"The floor needs waxed."
"This bottle needs opened."

To which I often feel like replying: "Your butt needs kicked".
__________________
In search of what to search for.
USAZorro is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 09:38 PM
  #16  
Snicklefritz
Senior Member
 
Snicklefritz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: In the middle of horse country, in The Garden State
Posts: 3,159
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
There's another sad trend afoot in Pennsylvania. Illustrating the phenomenon will be clearer than attempting to describe it. The lazy folks say things like:

"My car needs fixed."
"The floor needs waxed."
"This bottle needs opened."

To which I often feel like replying: "Your butt needs kicked".
are you serious? That's just awful!!!
Snicklefritz is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 09:56 PM
  #17  
x136 
phony collective progress
 
x136's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Hoosey
Posts: 2,973

Bikes: http://velospace.org/user/36663

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
There's another sad trend afoot in Pennsylvania. Illustrating the phenomenon will be clearer than attempting to describe it. The lazy folks say things like:

"My car needs fixed."
"The floor needs waxed."
"This bottle needs opened."
There's only one prescription for this.

__________________
x136 is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 09:58 PM
  #18  
USAZorro
Señor Member
 
USAZorro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Florence, KY
Posts: 16,214

Bikes: Mostly English - predominantly Raleighs

Mentioned: 48 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 695 Post(s)
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Originally Posted by Snicklefritz View Post
are you serious? That's just awful!!!
I am absolutely serious. I really have to restrain myself when I hear this nonsense.
__________________
In search of what to search for.
USAZorro is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 10:01 PM
  #19  
UnsafeAlpine
Domestic Domestique
 
UnsafeAlpine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,742

Bikes: Brand New Old Catamount! Schwinn Homegrown, Specialized FSR, Salsa Vaya, Salsa Chile Con Crosso

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Snicklefritz View Post
are you serious? That's just awful!!!
Correct. This is how it should be said.
Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
There's another sad trend afoot in Pennsylvania. Illustrating the phenomenon will be clearer than attempting to describe it. The lazy folks say things like:

"My car needs fixin'."
"The floor needs waxin'."
"This bottle needs openin'."

To which I often feel like replying: "Your butt needs kickin'."
UnsafeAlpine is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 10:07 PM
  #20  
UnsafeAlpine
Domestic Domestique
 
UnsafeAlpine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,742

Bikes: Brand New Old Catamount! Schwinn Homegrown, Specialized FSR, Salsa Vaya, Salsa Chile Con Crosso

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
In truth, the English are more consistent with their article use than American English speakers. We might say, "He went to the hospital," and,"She went to college." The English would say, "He went to hospital," and, "She went to college."
UnsafeAlpine is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 10:11 PM
  #21  
Luddite
Mrs. DataJunkie
 
Luddite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 1,527

Bikes: Asama "Luddite" and Kuwahara MTB from the 90s

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I hate the lack of article thing...must be my American blood asserting itself over my Canadian blood.

Take off, eh?
Luddite is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 10:12 PM
  #22  
Serendipper 
(((Fully Awake)))
 
Serendipper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: ~Serenading with sensous soliloquies whilst singing supple sentences that are simultaneously suppling my sonnets with serenity serendipitously.~ -Serendipper
Posts: 5,589

Bikes: Guerciotti Pista-Giant Carbon-Bridgestone300- Batavus Type Champion Road Bike, Specialized Hardrock Commuter, On-One The Gimp (SS Rigid MTB/hit by a truck)- Raleigh Sports 3-speed,Gatsby Scorcher, comming soon...The Penny Farthing Highwheel!

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
In truth, the English are more consistent with their article use than American English speakers. We might say, "He went to the hospital," and,"She went to college." The English would say, "He went to hospital," and, "She went to college."

I am shocked that the English are more consistent with English.
__________________
__________________________________________________________________________________________________

無上甚深微妙法 .... 百千萬劫難遭遇..... 我今見聞得受持
Serendipper is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 10:13 PM
  #23  
UnsafeAlpine
Domestic Domestique
 
UnsafeAlpine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1,742

Bikes: Brand New Old Catamount! Schwinn Homegrown, Specialized FSR, Salsa Vaya, Salsa Chile Con Crosso

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Serendipper View Post
I am shocked that the English are more consistent with English.
To be fair, that is with their written English. Who know's what the hell they actually say.
UnsafeAlpine is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 10:13 PM
  #24  
thebarerider
Senior Member
 
thebarerider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Norman, OK
Posts: 471

Bikes: Trek520

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by spinnaker View Post

I also find it interesting that most people would say "I was taken to the hospital" or "I need to go to the store", as if there is only one.

OK language professors, weigh in.
I imagine people do this because, in their mind, they are thinking about the store or hospital they regularly visit. Another explanation may be simply that stores and hospitals are often fungible, i.e. I can go to any store around me and get what I need (generally).

I don't know about your other question. My girlfriend drops the infinitive marker sometimes. She is from South Africa, so she speaks British English (that's kind of redundant . . .). For example, she says "I'll try remember that." I have no idea how it developed though.
thebarerider is offline  
Old 07-21-09, 10:22 PM
  #25  
x136 
phony collective progress
 
x136's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Hoosey
Posts: 2,973

Bikes: http://velospace.org/user/36663

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by UnsafeAlpine View Post
To be fair, that is with their written English. Who know's what the hell they actually say.
This is so not the thread for such things.
__________________
x136 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.