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Old 10-01-09, 05:37 PM
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The Mt. Doom Deck Chronicles

A close mist shrouded the Hudson Valley hills. In the valley, a plaintive loon wailed. Then quietly, with no fuss or bother, the demolition of the Deck atop Mt. Doom began. We don't have photos of that, but we do have photos of the footings for the retaining wall that will serve as the new foundation for the upper deck and the retaining wall for the pavers below.





Note how the upper deck looks wavy. After this project it will be straight. And it will be able to support 50+ drunken cyclists.
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
Note how the upper deck looks wavy. After this project it will be straight. And it will be able to support 50+ drunken cyclists.
is this the go ahead sign for OMGWTFBBQ party at pcad's house?


btw, how did the deck being built before foundation come about in the first place?
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Yeah, but will it support me and my fat ass?
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What's frightening is how coherent Hickey was in posting that.
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Originally Posted by AEO View Post
btw, how did the deck being built before foundation come about in the first place?
The stunning ignorance regarding the most elementary basics of construction betrayed by this remark is hard to overstate.
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
The stunning ignorance regarding the most elementary basics of construction betrayed by this remark is hard to overstate.
Like not building a house on the extreme edge of a steep hill?
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What's frightening is how coherent Hickey was in posting that.
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
A close mist shrouded the Hudson Valley hills. In the valley, a plaintive loon wailed. Then quietly, with no fuss or bother, the demolition of the Deck atop Mt. Doom began. We don't have photos of that, but we do have photos of the footings for the retaining wall that will serve as the new foundation for the upper deck and the retaining wall for the pavers below.

Note how the upper deck looks wavy. After this project it will be straight. And it will be able to support 50+ drunken cyclists.
In the spirit of the Metric Thread, that's the equivalent of 45 drunken Canadian cyclists.

Love the view from your deck.
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By the way, I've dealt with at least a dozen tradesmen and subcontractors over the past 20+ years (I've overseen/gc'd several significant renovations/alterations after owning three homes) and the guy I hired to do this job is the perfect guy. I spoke to three other builders who didn't seem sure. This guy worked for a major concrete firm in NY City for 20 years before starting his own contracting biz locally 5 years ago, and he does a lot of foundation work.

He has these new footings pinned with #8 rebar to the spotty shelf bedrock @ 3' intervals for 70'. The new retaining wall (which will also serve as deck footings) will be tied to the footings with #4 rebar and then back to the foundation @ 10' intervals. It's also 3' back from the edge of where the existing footings are rotating down the hill.
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
The stunning ignorance regarding the most elementary basics of construction betrayed by this remark is hard to overstate.
We don't use too many commas here in Canada. They over-complicate the sentence.
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Originally Posted by Alfster View Post
We don't use too many commas here in Canada. They over-complicate the sentence.
Oh wait, you weren't complaining about the grammar. Carry on.
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Originally Posted by Hickeydog View Post
Like not building a house on the extreme edge of a steep hill?
The house foundation hasn't moved a mm in 13 years. You can build a house anywhere if it's done properly junior. It's the deck footings that were clusterfarked by the builder. The subcontractor he employed to do the foundation did it right. Thankfully.

The exponentially increased stability you gain by simply backing off the edge of that slope 3' is something you have to see up close to appreciate. The new retaining wall is closer to the house. The deck will be about 3' narrower across the back of the house, but we're extending it out sideways into the yard on the north side. We'll have pavers underneath behind the new retaining wall.

This after having an engineer, 3 bids, and several other contractors assess this situation. I think I did choose the right man.
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one of the modern wonders of the world: concrete.
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one of the modern wonders of the world: concrete.
Ask the Mob.
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Pcad,

It looks like you have a nice drop-off behind the deck. How far can you spit a watermelon seed from the railing?

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Pcad,

It looks like you have a nice drop-off behind the deck. How far can you spit a watermelon seed from the railing?
God help me.
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Yeah, but will it support me and my fat ass?


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This guy worked for a major concrete firm in NY City for 20 years before starting his own contracting biz locally 5 years ago, and he does a lot of foundation work.
So you are saying this guy could tell us exactly where Jimmy Hoffa is?
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one of the ancient wonders of the world: concrete.
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So you are saying this guy could tell us exactly where Jimmy Hoffa is?
Actually you're saying that. I'll tell him you're concerned.
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hey, I know you're a sucker for schwag.

feel like installing a wall of litracon?
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post

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Note how the upper deck looks wavy. After this project it will be straight. And it will be able to support 50+ drunken cyclists.
Is that a reference to Age, IQ, or weight?
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It sure is pink.
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What's the frost line there pcad?

Here it's 45". Put piers in any less depth than that and they'll heave when the ground freezes. Looks like the original builder went a bit shallow.
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