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Old 10-03-04, 07:16 PM
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I bought a new computer on the weekend. I nice upgrade from the ol' Celeron 500MHz I've been slumming on at home for far too long.

I went up the a P4 3.0GHz. The thing is, the fan in it sound like it's preparing for lift off. I've never heard so much noise coming from a computer before, and I generally have pretty high end machines at work - the one I use now (a 2.6GHz) is pretty much silent. Mine at home can be heard on the other side of the house.

I phoned the technical folks where I bought it, and the chap on the line more or less said that on these new motherboards with fast processors, that level of noise is normal and to be expected. I could possibly fix it with a 'thermally advantaged' case, and/or adding more fans. To me this sounds like so much b.s. and I said so to the guy. The thing sounds faulty to me.

So tell me, how much noise is normal from a cpu fan? Is this guy full of it, or am I being unreasonable to expect silence from this box?

btw, the system I got was this one
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He's full of it. You should be able to scare up a shrouded fan or two somewhere. There are quiet cases, but that would be annoying to replace a new case. But it might come to that. I have Dell 3 GHZ and it just makes a quiet hum unless it's hot. If it's hot where you are, that's a different story but you make it sound like the fans are always on high.
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Wrong. Buying a prepackaged computer from a major vendor is the worst thing to do. Build your own custom computer.

Your computer should be almost dead silent. Even with a stock A64 fan for my 3000+ it's nearly dead quiet. I can't imagine what some aftermarket cooling would do to that.

For me I usually just leave the side of the case off. Win win situation. Put the case on and temps rise inside unless you put more case fans, which just doubly makes it worse. Idiotic.
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Old 10-03-04, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by late
He's full of it. You should be able to scare up a shrouded fan or two somewhere.
I asked why they couldn't use a quieter fan and the response was it voids the warranty with Intel. More BS? My view is that my contract isn't with Intel, it's with Concorde - warranty issues with Intel are their problem, not mine.

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There are quiet cases, but that would be annoying to replace a new case.
He did say they'd change the case, no charge.

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But it might come to that. I have Dell 3 GHZ and it just makes a quiet hum unless it's hot. If it's hot where you are, that's a different story but you make it sound like the fans are always on high.
At the moment we're getting about 30C days, but even in the evening or first thing in the morning and before the computer has even had a chance to warm up it's unacceptably loud.
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They could have sold you a machine with an AMD mainboard as well!!!

The noise is either the processor fan or the power source fan. Either can be noisy or silent, depending on the brand/price. I had a fan for which I paid 100 swiss francs which I used to call Swissair. I endured this racket for a while and then I went to my supplier who sold me a fan for 12 francs. Silence...

Your supplier is a bulls...ter. Don't be fooled by guarantees because if your lovely new baby goes for a hike you will get even more bull than the have in Madrid!!!

Go back and insist on a proper cooling fan.
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Old 10-03-04, 11:15 PM
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You should hear the noise in my office. My wife refuses to stay in their for any length of time due to the noise level. I guess since I'm used to standing around on the ramp area at an airport, I'm used to loud fan-type and vacuum-cleaner noises. I guess it also doesn't help that I have one of these under my desk...




That's an ancient 30-drive, 3-tray SPARC StorageArray. Those two extra fans are AC-powered auxillary fans I bolted on myself. I scavanged them out of some old computer cabinets I was dismanlting. They are in addition to three other fans of similar size internal to the drive array.
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You're getting hosed Allister. Check out Fred Langa's site for some noise reduction tips. It's a three part series that seems to go on forever.

Void your warratnty? Why worry.
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Hi,
leaving the case open is something I have done.
It's not really the right way to go about it. And... whatever made Operator think I wanted to put more fans in there?
I was suggesting replacing them with quieter shrouded models.

I would take them up on their offer; but personally I'd ask if they had a better case I could upgrade to for a few bucks.
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Originally Posted by late
Hi,
leaving the case open is something I have done.
It's not really the right way to go about it. And... whatever made Operator think I wanted to put more fans in there?
I was suggesting replacing them with quieter shrouded models.

I would take them up on their offer; but personally I'd ask if they had a better case I could upgrade to for a few bucks.
Leaving the case open is wrong! A closed case circulates air more efficiently! Unless you are overclocking a cheapie fan does the trick. Go back to that store and demand a silent fan. Jeysus this is not rocket science.
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Go to Silent pc review. I'm typing the url from memory, so do a google search if I didn't type it correctly. They don't sell stuff, but have good info & links. I replaced a motherboard fan that was driving me nuts, but don't recall the vendor. The new fan is great, but the drive whine is driving me nuts now. sigh.
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Old 10-06-04, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Stacey
You're getting hosed Allister. Check out Fred Langa's site for some noise reduction tips. It's a three part series that seems to go on forever.

Void your warratnty? Why worry.
Ditto. Stacey is absolutely right, check out langa's website. I wouldn't hesitate to get a quieter power supply. The box makers tend to ship what is cheap to keep their costs down. If you go to a local computer store, the db will be specified on the package.

You might also complain a little louder to the company, they might send you another. It is possible you have a bad power supply.
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try one of these:

http://www.overclockers.com/articles1117/
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Originally Posted by Allister
I bought a new computer on the weekend. I nice upgrade from the ol' Celeron 500MHz I've been slumming on at home for far too long.

btw, the system I got was this one
Anybody know what the exchange rate is for US and Aussie dollars?
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Originally Posted by TomM
Anybody know what the exchange rate is for US and Aussie dollars?
http://www.x-rates.com/
Now you do!
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