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Old 03-11-11, 11:16 AM
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Bad Tools. BAD!

Which tools do you love to hate...the clunky, the awkward, the just plain useless implements that haunt the bottom of your toolbox?

I really dislike nut drivers, or spintites:

https://www.harborfreight.com/7-piece...FQQ65QodwQdmFA

Beside the fact that they are a wrench-on-a-stick, the reach isn't there, angles are impossible and there's no leverage.

The only thing worse is the box wrench with a moveable flat on the end which supposedly swivels to grip a hex fastener ever-more-securely. They will fit onto any machine exactly nowhere and require a wide area to place and a wider area still to operate. Terrible even at their usual low price.
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Old 03-11-11, 12:26 PM
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I frequently want to chuck our Snap-on ratchets...PITA to remove sockets---no knurled sockets + no button + oily hands =

I usually end up seeking out a different [made in China] ratchet.
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Old 03-11-11, 12:44 PM
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Rotary tools that spin in a direction that throws debris at me while I work.
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Old 03-11-11, 01:12 PM
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Philips screw + driver.

what a shoddy knock off of the Robertson screw + driver.
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Old 03-11-11, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by AEO View Post
Philips screw + driver.

what a shoddy knock off of the Robertson screw + driver.
You must be a Canadian.

I have a bunch of Robertson decking screws that I have absolutely nothing to do with.

As for useless implements, the dumb stamped steel things with all of the cutouts for the various nut sizes... I have several, and they never do anything for me.
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Originally Posted by FlatTop View Post
Which tools do you love to hate...the clunky, the awkward, the just plain useless implements that haunt the bottom of your toolbox?

I really dislike nut drivers, or spintites:
I have to disagree. Nut drivers come in pretty handy when working on the motorcycles. With the tight confines and having to thread my way around intervening structures, they can work better than a socket with an extension.
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Old 03-11-11, 02:38 PM
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Cheap chain breakers
The thread pitch is too steep, the handles are too short, the pins are often misaligned, and the link-alignment tabs are prone to bending/breaking.
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Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
dull bone saws are a pain
Not to the user... only the receipient!
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Originally Posted by FlatTop View Post
Which tools do you love to hate...the clunky, the awkward, the just plain useless implements that haunt the bottom of your toolbox?
I really dislike nut drivers, or spintites:
https://www.harborfreight.com/7-piece...FQQ65QodwQdmFA

Beside the fact that they are a wrench-on-a-stick, the reach isn't there, angles are impossible and there's no leverage.
Those are a lifesaver for hose clamps. I can't stand using a flat-head screwdriver on them and even a philips screwdriver requires you to push hard into the clamp, which makes it spin around whatever it's attached to (like a radiator hose).
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Originally Posted by 20grit View Post
Rotary tools that spin in a direction that throws debris at me while I work.
I thought that there was a circuit in the tool that sensed your location and changed the rotation to facilitate throwing the debris at you, I never seem to be able to get on the right side of the wizz wheel.
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Old 03-11-11, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbenaugust View Post
You must be a Canadian.

I have a bunch of Robertson decking screws that I have absolutely nothing to do with.

As for useless implements, the dumb stamped steel things with all of the cutouts for the various nut sizes... I have several, and they never do anything for me.
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I love all tools, except those.
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Old 03-11-11, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Embrey View Post
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I love all tools, except those.
It is supposed to be some sort of funky-shaped multi-wrench... but it's always the wrong size-shape for the situation and the 1/8" steel doesn't do the nuts any favors, either. I have several and I have used them once... because I didn't have a real wrench around.

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I love all my tools. This is one of my latest purchases. I don't guess I'll be using it to tighten any carbon fiber components.
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I hate the cheap tools, usually anything purchased at HF. They always let you down.
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Originally Posted by bigbenaugust View Post
You must be a Canadian.

I have a bunch of Robertson decking screws that I have absolutely nothing to do with.

As for useless implements, the dumb stamped steel things with all of the cutouts for the various nut sizes... I have several, and they never do anything for me.
You need to aquire the proper bits/drivers to use them. Don't use square drives which do not fit the socket properly and cause the driver to slip. Try sourcing them from a Canadian retailer in order to ensure that they are Robertson drives and not square.
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I hate the cheap tools, usually anything purchased at HF. They always let you down.
I too hate cheap tools. Well, cheaply made tools. MOST of what I get at Harbor Freight I use for a couple times. If I made my living with said tools, I wouldn't buy from HF... I carry HF tools in my Jeep. If I lose them, or they are stolen, I'm not too worried...
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12-point sockets. Won't buy 'em, won't keep 'em.

Combo wrenches without a good angle on the box end; hate it!

I had a set of the ratcheting box/combo wrenches, extra-long shanks that tapered flat "the other way" for each end; real hi-zoot design. But the flaws came out in the poor box-end angle, and the atrocious ratchet action. I really didn't mind it when they "disappeared".

SOME cheap tools are OK; most, though, are so aggravating to work with that I can't use them. They HAVE to suit my hand.
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I hate the cheap tools, usually anything purchased at HF. They always let you down.


I did this with a bottom bracket tool clamped in it, using the frame as the lever. When the vice broke I thought I had broken the frame
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I did this with a bottom bracket tool clamped in it, using the frame as the lever. When the vice broke I thought I had broken the frame
I broke a cheap vise in exactly the same way.
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Originally Posted by overthehillmedi View Post
You need to aquire the proper bits/drivers to use them. Don't use square drives which do not fit the socket properly and cause the driver to slip. Try sourcing them from a Canadian retailer in order to ensure that they are Robertson drives and not square.
They are also decking screws I found in a bag down the road from a construction site. I really have no use for them... but I guess I could repair my deck.
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Originally Posted by DX-MAN View Post
12-point sockets. Won't buy 'em, won't keep 'em.
Unluckily, I need a few... Keep extras of the ones I do need...
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