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Old 08-18-11, 02:05 PM
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Help my brother buy a MTB

My brother is wanting to get a mountain bike. He has been looking and has narrowed his search to Specialized Camber Comp, Trek Fuel EX 5 and the Scott Spark 60.

Specialized and Scott seem to be better to me as they are all Shimano and the Trek has SRAM.

Specialized is Alivio level and Scott is Deore level components.

I have been out of mountain biking for more than a few years, so any input would be nice.

Cursory scans of the specs has me liking the Soctt over the others.

A lttle more info.

My brother turns 50 this year and is riding a Trek 820 from the early 90s right now. He is doing casual trail riding for fitness and will never race or hammer the bike all that hard.
I too have tried to steer him towards a hard tail so he could get better components for his budget.

He really wants full suspension and is trying to stay in the sub 2k price range. I think 1.5K is really his target.

With that said, are there bikes out there that are full suspension that ya'll would reccomend over the Scott?
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Phobias are for irrational fears. Fear of junk ripping badgers is perfectly rational. Those things are nasty.
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Old 08-18-11, 02:45 PM
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Take him to wal mart,get him a mongoose 29er...nuff said
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Old 08-18-11, 02:50 PM
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Can he sell me the 820? What size is it?

I vote for the Scott.
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Old 08-18-11, 03:34 PM
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Probably a 19" and he may want to sell it. I can find out. He bought it new from Plano Cycling way back in the early 90s
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Old 08-18-11, 03:45 PM
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Get a copy of "How To Train Up A Child". After 20 lashes with a plumbing supply tube he"ll be more inclined to get a road bike.
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Old 08-18-11, 04:02 PM
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Probably a 19" and he may want to sell it. I can find out. He bought it new from Plano Cycling way back in the early 90s
Darn, 19" is a little big for me. Would prefer something in the 17-18.5 range.
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Old 08-18-11, 04:04 PM
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Personally, I always thought the Scott bikes were overpriced for what you get. They do have the sexy factor though...

If that is really his budget, all the bikes are pretty much the same. You're right - he'd get WAY more bang for his buck if he bought a better hardtail for the same price though.
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Old 08-18-11, 05:48 PM
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but you know... or maybe you don't... at 50 your body just doesn't like all those bumps! If your bro's just cruising around, the loss of speed going up hills on a soft tail won't bother him, so I'd advise he look at the soft tail with the best components he can find.
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Old 08-18-11, 06:32 PM
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http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...comp_ds_xi.htm

Quite a deal for $ 1100.
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The best bike is the one that fits him. He needs to find a place that will spend the time do a fitting. Then he should buy whatever they recommend.

With that out of the way, the Camber is a great riding bike. It has a relaxed geometry that really seems to float over the bumps. Depending on the terrain he's riding, though, he might really want to consider a 29er. They're fast, they feel great, and they're more comfortable than 26" bikes.

Sram and Shimano are pretty much equal. The only difference is the feel. The best comparison, however, are the things that actually make you faster; frame weight, fork and shock quality, wheelset. Look at those three things to compare from bike to bike.

Good seeing you, buddy.
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Most people either knock their teeth out on a downhill or tire of those Mountain bikes.
Let him borrow one of your road bikes when he gives up.
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What sort of riding are we talking here? On what surface? How much does he ride? I'm not yet 100% convinced that a mountain bike is the best option, and I certainly don't think a fully suspended bike in that range is the right idea. This is coming from a guy who rides a bike with full suspension. Unless he's going on trails, and as much as I hate them, a well made hybrid is actually a really good option for people looking for a comfortable bike they can exercise with.
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Trek Fuel. It has the best suspension design.
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Old 08-19-11, 09:19 AM
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What sort of riding are we talking here? On what surface? How much does he ride? I'm not yet 100% convinced that a mountain bike is the best option, and I certainly don't think a fully suspended bike in that range is the right idea. This is coming from a guy who rides a bike with full suspension. Unless he's going on trails, and as much as I hate them, a well made hybrid is actually a really good option for people looking for a comfortable bike they can exercise with.

He is riding the trails built by DORBA. Some of it is pretty technical. Rides are 20-30 miles in length. Never ridden with him. Been told by others to get him to look at a hardtail 29er instead of a full suspension 26. Thoughts on that? If he wants a road bike, I have three right now, a vintage tourer, a vintage steel road bike and a modern Trek road bike that he can try, but I do not have anything with suspension for him to try.

Have offered to let him take my full hard Trek 8000 out, but he wants a new bike and he wants full suspension.

Really need to get him to ride a hardtail 29er to see what he may be missing IMHO. Gonna get a lighter bike with better components for his money and in the end it will be easier to climb on and still have much better manners than his old Trek 820.
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Tell him to get a rental hard tail from RBM for a weekend before he drops the coin on the FS job. The lighter weight HT is going to be much easier to manage on the trails.

// knows about >< about MTBs, but I know that much.
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I have a tek EX* and love it. Fast bike. scary fast.
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Am, are we allowed to discuss actual bike topics in Foo?
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No. BTW, jsharr, I think the recommendation for a hardtail is a pretty good one
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I saw a dude riding a road bike during my trail ride today. I saw the roadie tracks in the dirt first and thought, no way, someone as kooky as me is out here (I'm not opposed to the occasional dirt road ride on the Pinarello). A few minutes later and yep, there he was rollin dirt on 25mm tires!
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Originally Posted by jsharr View Post
He is riding the trails built by DORBA. Some of it is pretty technical. Rides are 20-30 miles in length. Never ridden with him. Been told by others to get him to look at a hardtail 29er instead of a full suspension 26. Thoughts on that? If he wants a road bike, I have three right now, a vintage tourer, a vintage steel road bike and a modern Trek road bike that he can try, but I do not have anything with suspension for him to try.

Have offered to let him take my full hard Trek 8000 out, but he wants a new bike and he wants full suspension.

Really need to get him to ride a hardtail 29er to see what he may be missing IMHO. Gonna get a lighter bike with better components for his money and in the end it will be easier to climb on and still have much better manners than his old Trek 820.
Ok, well than a mountain bike probably is in order. I just get sad every time I see someone who wants a mountain bike to ride on the bike path, 'cause you might end up in the grass you know. I don't know that a hardtail 29er is going to be better than a hardtail 26, but he should try both to form his own opinion. If nothing else 29 inch wheels will weigh more than 26 inch wheels, all else equal. In my experience people who learn to ride trails on hard-tail bikes are better riders than those who learn on soft tail bikes, but the soft tails are a bit more forgiving.
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I saw a dude riding a road bike during my trail ride today. I saw the roadie tracks in the dirt first and thought, no way, someone as kooky as me is out here (I'm not opposed to the occasional dirt road ride on the Pinarello). A few minutes later and yep, there he was rollin dirt on 25mm tires!
I've seen some truly impressive riders on single speed bikes with cyclocross tires. They don't go as fast down the hills, but it doesn't matter when they fly through the turns 2x faster than I do.
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