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Old 12-15-11, 10:54 AM
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We have a 27" and a 19" in the study that we never use. I'll keep them until they die and then replace with something modern. I'd like something more modern now, but don't want to pay for it. As it is, I've done lots of crazy wiring to run feed from the computer to the tv so we can watch netflix and hulu. Don't know if the house would feel complete without the vga to rca converter and 25 feet of component video and audio cabling hugging the walls a running under area rugs.
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That sounds about like my setup for my black and white TV. Its only input is two screw terminals for an antenna. I have a portable DVD player connected to it, which only has a 1/8" AV-out jack, so it goes like this:

DVD player --> 1/8" AV out to three RCA adapter --> RCA cable --> RCA switchbox (mostly to split off the audio to some nicer speakers) --> RCA cable --> RCA to coaxial converter box --> coaxial cable --> coaxial to two post antenna adapter --> TV.

It's amazing it works as well as it does.

Now I kind of want to casemod an Apple II to have a low-spec Mini-ITX computer inside and a built-in VGA-composite converter, hook it to the switchbox, and have a neat retro-styled terminal.
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That sounds about like my setup for my black and white TV. Its only input is two screw terminals for an antenna. I have a portable DVD player connected to it, which only has a 1/8" AV-out jack, so it goes like this:

DVD player --> 1/8" AV out to three RCA adapter --> RCA cable --> RCA switchbox (mostly to split off the audio to some nicer speakers) --> RCA cable --> RCA to coaxial converter box --> coaxial cable --> coaxial to two post antenna adapter --> TV.

It's amazing it works as well as it does.

Now I kind of want to casemod an Apple II to have a low-spec Mini-ITX computer inside and a built-in VGA-composite converter, hook it to the switchbox, and have a neat retro-styled terminal.
>.> MAME! Play your games, have an awesome retro case (even if it is bigger then you), and still be able to use the computer part. If you hurt a functional Appple II(of any letter) I might have to write not nice things about you.
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>.> MAME! Play your games, have an awesome retro case (even if it is bigger then you), and still be able to use the computer part. If you hurt a functional Appple II(of any letter) I might have to write not nice things about you.
+1. PLEASE use an Apple ][ that doesn't work.
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That sounds about like my setup for my black and white TV. Its only input is two screw terminals for an antenna. I have a portable DVD player connected to it, which only has a 1/8" AV-out jack, so it goes like this:

DVD player --> 1/8" AV out to three RCA adapter --> RCA cable --> RCA switchbox (mostly to split off the audio to some nicer speakers) --> RCA cable --> RCA to coaxial converter box --> coaxial cable --> coaxial to two post antenna adapter --> TV.

It's amazing it works as well as it does.

Now I kind of want to casemod an Apple II to have a low-spec Mini-ITX computer inside and a built-in VGA-composite converter, hook it to the switchbox, and have a neat retro-styled terminal.
Oh, our dvd player and vcr are similarly oddly hooked up. Well not as bad. I think the dvd player just runs through the rca inputs on the vcr as the cable box has the coax input and they share a coax output to the tv or something like that. For some reason it's all a bunch of odd wiring. I just know that if I get a new tv, I'll probably lose the ability to run my dvd player as non does rca inputs to the new tvs anymore.
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If you hurt a functional Appple II(of any letter) I might have to write not nice things about you.
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+1. PLEASE use an Apple ][ that doesn't work.
But of course. I have a perfectly functional IIe with a DuoDisk drive and a green tilty Monitor II (just like this setup), and despite being yellowed beyond recognition, I wouldn't dream of harming it. I already saved it from the dump once! It was full of mud and poisonous spiders when I found it on top of a heap...
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I've got my IIGS somewhere still.. if I recall right it has the 2mb hard drive feature! (That could be a grossly higher number then it really is, with older age failing me). But I actually keep a commodore pet just at the front of the storage area, with tape drives etc to drag out and use every now and then.
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Actually, I have wondered if it would be possible to throw a mini-ITX board into an old Mac (Mac SE or Mac Classic, perhaps) and work the VGA connection out to use the original monitor, or get a 9" LCD to fit in there.
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Actually, I have wondered if it would be possible to throw a mini-ITX board into an old Mac (Mac SE or Mac Classic, perhaps) and work the VGA connection out to use the original monitor, or get a 9" LCD to fit in there.
I would hazard to guess you'd probably need a 9" lcd unless you are quite good at physical hacking.. I'd send you an CRT from a mac se I think it is, but I threw out the guts a while back (have one of those aquarium projects, and yes the board/power supply were already defunct in it)

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I would hazard to guess you'd probably need a 9" lcd unless you are quite good at physical hacking.. I'd send you an lcd from a mac se I think it is, but I threw out the guts a while back (have one of those aquarium projects, and yes the board/power supply were already defunct in it)
there was just something about the original Mac form factor, and I would love to see how it works with a higher-res screen than 832x624.
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I've got my IIGS somewhere still.. if I recall right it has the 2mb hard drive feature! (That could be a grossly higher number then it really is, with older age failing me). But I actually keep a commodore pet just at the front of the storage area, with tape drives etc to drag out and use every now and then.
I think the optional hard drive for the IIgs was a positively massive 20 MB. There was a 5 MB drive for the earlier, floptastic Apple III, and the slightly later Macintosh SE/30 came with a 40 MB drive.

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Actually, I have wondered if it would be possible to throw a mini-ITX board into an old Mac (Mac SE or Mac Classic, perhaps) and work the VGA connection out to use the original monitor, or get a 9" LCD to fit in there.
Sure can. You can do a wonderful job of it, or a completely abysmal, pointless hackjob of it, and everything between.

The tl;dr is that hooking up the stock CRT ain't gonna happen without a lot of work, but you can find 9" VGA monitors that'll fit in its place.
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I think the optional hard drive for the IIgs was a positively massive 20 MB. There was a 5 MB drive for the earlier, floptastic Apple III, and the slightly later Macintosh SE/30 came with a 40 MB drive.

Sure can. You can do a wonderful job of it, or a completely abysmal, pointless hackjob of it, and everything between.

The tl;dr is that hooking up the stock CRT ain't gonna happen without a lot of work, but you can find 9" VGA monitors that'll fit in its place.
Thanks, I wanted to say 20mb but really I looked back on the era for what I could recall and decided it was wayyy too high a number. but I knew it was a 2
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I do. I bought my parents a flat screen TV and they gave me their old TV because I don't have one. I have to get the converter for it, so I just use it for watching dvds. Not much into TV anyway.
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Sure can. You can do a wonderful job of it, or a completely abysmal, pointless hackjob of it, and everything between.

The tl;dr is that hooking up the stock CRT ain't gonna happen without a lot of work, but you can find 9" VGA monitors that'll fit in its place.
That first one is hot. Yep, I said it. Hot. That with an LCD would be a winner.
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Haven't had cable or an antenna for TV since about 1996. My boys are currently watching a "Teen Titans" DVD in the basement on a 19" curvy screen sharp that someone gave us. I also have a 13" sears from the '80s stuck in the storage room next to my Atari collection should I ever get the urge....
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That first one is hot. Yep, I said it. Hot. That with an LCD would be a winner.
The trouble would be not only finding one the right size (and aspect ratio), but modifying the bezel to fit the non-curved screen and getting it to look good.

I've been wanting to stick a more modern computer in a toaster Mac for several years, and even at one point collected a 9" IBM CRT from a POS system as well as a power supply from a 1U server, but that's about as far as I got, and I no longer have a stash of extra 68k Macs (just my hot rodded SE/30) or the CRT.

Since LCDs have become popular and inexpensive, I've wondered about the possibility of carefully breaking the picture tube and cutting away the back portion, leaving just the thick glass at the front. Then mount the LCD behind that glass, with a black surround to fill the gaps. When powered off, it'd look pretty authentic, and it probably wouldn't look too bad when on, possibly even slightly steampunky.
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I'd hate to touch the case at all, but I might machine a little off to make the curved screen surround flat. I mean, if you already have to make the FDD slot bigger for a DVD drive (front and center) and make the USB ports stick out (at the rear), I don't think it would be a crime.
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That said, the internal display being 640x480 or 800x600 wouldn't be so bad, if you got one of the new crop of Mini-ITX boards with both VGA/DVI ports and an HDMI port. Connect the internal to the VGA/DVI, and mount an HDMI socket on the back somewhere in a subtle manner. Then you could hook up any ol' monitor or TV next to it and use the internal for pallettes/email/IM/whatever.

Paint the external monitor the same shade of beige, of course!
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You know... that's what my new Optiplex needs. Beige paint.
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I'd hate to touch the case at all, but I might machine a little off to make the curved screen surround flat. I mean, if you already have to make the FDD slot bigger for a DVD drive (front and center) and make the USB ports stick out (at the rear), I don't think it would be a crime.
Not so much a crime, I just think it would be extremely difficult to get it to look good, not only as far as straight lines, but in that the curved CRT was the focal point before, and with an LCD it'll just look... different. A not-quite-uncanny valley thing.
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You know... that's what my new Optiplex needs. Beige paint.
If I could find the right shade of beige in a spraycan or otherwise, I don't think I'd be able to stop myself... ever.
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I know pantone 453 is a mac color, but I believe it's the even older one not what your looking for.
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Now I kind of want to casemod an Apple II to have a low-spec Mini-ITX computer inside and a built-in VGA-composite converter, hook it to the switchbox, and have a neat retro-styled terminal.
I'd like to do the same, but with this:



Let me know if you figure out how to cut the tube face.
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Until a month or so ago, 3 crt tv's. The main tv, a 26" diagonal, USA mfg, RCA console, finally went fizzle.
The last service call, about 8 or 9 yrs ago, was $300.00+. CRT and a transformer went this time. NO PARTS.
Looking for a flat screen (37"-42") that will fit into front of console with minimal trimming, or addition of fillers.
One 16" with built in VCR and a 12" B&W that is a dedicated very old video game player(Tank & Asteroids).
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I know pantone 453 is a mac color, but I believe it's the even older one not what your looking for.
There was the original that was almost a light brown that the old Macs had in the Physics labs as Cal Poly... can't remember the model, but they ran System 6. Then there was the lighter beige, and finally the fawn gray that they stuck with until the iBook and PowerBook, and the eMate and Newtons. I think.

Either way, My Optiplex and Viewsonics at work need some paint. And my Optiplex and Hyundai at home. And my wife's MacBook Pro... ooooh, a beige MBP.
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