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Old 12-20-11, 12:52 PM
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I'm going to echo Skiahh. The iPhone has been the most versatile travel camera I've used in years. And the "Massive Development Chart app" has made it the most used piece of equipment in my dark room save the enlarger. There is even a light meter app for it that has come in handy when I'm dragging around my 1933 Voightlander and have again forgotten to pack my regular light meter. And the time lapse app is cool, and there is a panorama app that does a crappy job with stitching but is a hell of a lot of fun to use stitching together a scene as you are standing there...and so on with the apps.

But for the amount of stuff the iPhone is capable, and still fit in your front pocket with your keys, it can't be beat for a travel camera.




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Both are iPhone captures.
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Old 12-20-11, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jdon View Post
Many thanks for all the input guys. I went with the Panasonic ZS8 as it seems best for my application. A lot of my travel takes me to non WGS84 compliant countries so GPS isn't needed nor was the 3D photo available on the ZS10.

Sometimes this forum produces great results. Y'all saved me over $500.

I should read the entire thread before I post.
Panasonic P&Ss kick ass.
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Old 12-20-11, 12:58 PM
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I kind of like the results mine produces.

One thing to note since it is a point and shoot... keep the lens clean. Turning it on and off will slowly work a bunch of dust into the center of your lens leaving a lovely diagonal blur through all your pictures.
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Old 12-20-11, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jdon View Post
Many thanks for all the input guys. I went with the Panasonic ZS8 as it seems best for my application. A lot of my travel takes me to non WGS84 compliant countries so GPS isn't needed nor was the 3D photo available on the ZS10.

Sometimes this forum produces great results. Y'all saved me over $500.
We endeavor to give satisfaction.
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Old 12-20-11, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jdon View Post
Many thanks for all the input guys. I went with the Panasonic ZS8 as it seems best for my application. A lot of my travel takes me to non WGS84 compliant countries so GPS isn't needed nor was the 3D photo available on the ZS10.

Sometimes this forum produces great results. Y'all saved me over $500.
So to pay us back, I suggest you buy each of us a beer. You can pick us up in your new ride.
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Old 12-20-11, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AllenG View Post
I'm going to echo Skiahh. The iPhone has been the most versatile travel camera I've used in years.
Not echoing me, that was Timber_8; I was saying phone cameras aren't "cameras". They're good to have with you and grab a quick picture, and they take OK pictures at that, but compared to something that's only a camera, I just don't think they're on par with anything beyond a basic P&S.

I carry my TS3 when I travel and keep it handy for anything quick shots I want to take.

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Old 12-20-11, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RUOkie View Post
So to pay us back, I suggest you buy each of us a beer. You can pick us up in your new ride.
How about, If the new ride and I are in your town, I buy you a beer? Hey, wait a minute RUOkie, you didn't contribute except to suggest a beer...
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Old 12-20-11, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
Not echoing me, that was Timber_8; I was saying phone cameras aren't "cameras". They're good to have with you and grab a quick picture, and they take OK pictures at that, but compared to something that's only a camera, I just don't think they're on par with anything beyond a basic P&S.

I carry my TS3 when I travel and keep it handy for anything quick shots I want to take.
Well iPhone & phone cameras are not the same either not meaning to confuse things here. This iPhone is an 8 megapixel camera with high dinamic range & a pretty incredible auto focus. It is better than most point and shoots I have ever owned and I have had many over the years. I'm not saying that there not better point and shoot cameras out there but the only reason to have a point and shoot is convienience and availability. Point and shoot cameras are always a secondary camera, I have never known a photographer to not carry one with or without their SLR camera. I know a lot of people only own a point and shoot as a primary camera and many will never own a DSLR. It does appear that for the discussion of this thread we are talking about a secondary camera & assuming that is the purpose then it has to be in your possession at all times. I believe that iPhone is designed around the camera with this concept in mind.
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Old 12-20-11, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kc0yef View Post
Make sure the zoom you buy is in the lens and NOT a digital zoom
This is a very important point, digital zoom is not the same & really should be called something other than zoom IMO anyway
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Old 12-20-11, 08:22 PM
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Concerning the iPhone, and interesting quote by a very famous photographer, Annie Leibovitz

NBC’s Brian Williams interviewed Annie Leibovitz who, when asked what kind of camera one should buy, remarked the iPhone – “that is the snapshot camera of today… it’s the wallet with the family pictures in it.” Although I truly dig the iPhone 4S’ new 8 megapixel camera and all the revolutionary technology crammed into the smartphone, the Sony-made image sensor is just not large enough to rival images captured with a DSLR – and that’s expected. Apple describes its A5 chip, designed with an image signal processor, as “just as good as the ones found in DSLR cameras” and this might be true, but the image sensor is not – big difference between a signal processor and a sensor. It might allow you to shoot faster, or capture nice color and tonal range, or to use when you don’t have a camera handy, but it can’t match the quality of a larger image sensor that’s comes with a higher-quality lens. Simply put, you can’t squeeze a V8 engine into a moped. Then again, I can’t make a call, text, tweet, Google Map a route, or play Fruit Ninja with my DSLR camera, either.
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Old 12-20-11, 09:22 PM
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There is a fujifilm x100 camera that is pretty small but it has aps-c size sensor. On top of that, it looks like a retro rangefinder camera with hybrid viewfinder and lcd screen. What really kicks ass on x100 is that it has actual aperture ring and actual shutter speed dial and of course auto option for both.
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Old 12-21-11, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by spock View Post
There is a fujifilm x100 camera that is pretty small but it has aps-c size sensor. On top of that, it looks like a retro rangefinder camera with hybrid viewfinder and lcd screen. What really kicks ass on x100 is that it has actual aperture ring and actual shutter speed dial and of course auto option for both.
It's not really that small actually...

It probably won't fit in your pocket.
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Old 12-21-11, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sbattey View Post
It's not really that small actually...

It probably won't fit in your pocket.
5.0 x 2.9 x 2.1 in.
(127 x 74 x 54 mm) http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/X100/X100A.HTM

Laica v-lux 4.13 x 2.27 x 1.31" / 104.90 x 57.66 x 33.27 mm

It's no laica v-lux sizewise but with all those features, I'd find a pocket for it.
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Old 12-21-11, 07:31 AM
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The Leica/Panasonic is already pretty big for a point and shoot. I had to go the point and shoot route because I was on a 4 day pack trip through Yellowstone and size was an issue. My panasonic was as big as I wanted to carry on that trip, and about as big as I could carry with my weight restrictions on material.
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Old 12-21-11, 07:48 AM
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If the size is really an issue, one can go with something like this:



No, it's not a medium format. Minidigi-5 rolleiflex is what they call it.
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Old 12-21-11, 08:19 AM
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^^^ I'm not sure film is available for those any longer.
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Old 12-21-11, 08:25 AM
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0.000120 one?

Probably not....

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Originally Posted by jdon View Post
How about, If the new ride and I are in your town, I buy you a beer? Hey, wait a minute RUOkie, you didn't contribute except to suggest a beer...
damn, you caught me. I really want a ride in that thing.
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Old 12-21-11, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ahsposo View Post
^^^ I'm not sure film is available for those any longer.
It doesn't take film. So it shouldn't be an issue.
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Old 12-21-11, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by spock View Post
If the size is really an issue, one can go with something like this:



No, it's not a medium format. Minidigi-5 rolleiflex is what they call it.
I thought that was what I call a Baby Rollieflex 4x4 that took the 127 film. After I re-read your post and the "digi-5" part sunk in I realized it was a digital rendition of that camera. How bizarre!
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Originally Posted by spock View Post
5.0 x 2.9 x 2.1 in.
(127 x 74 x 54 mm) http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/X100/X100A.HTM

Laica v-lux 4.13 x 2.27 x 1.31" / 104.90 x 57.66 x 33.27 mm

It's no laica v-lux sizewise but with all those features, I'd find a pocket for it.
While I like the features of the camera, I can't look passed the fact that it is a 1000 dollars camera with no interchangeable lenses... Fuji has this thing way over priced.
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Old 12-21-11, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 20grit View Post
I had to go the point and shoot route because I was on a 4 day pack trip through Yellowstone and size was an issue. My panasonic was as big as I wanted to carry on that trip, and about as big as I could carry with my weight restrictions on material.
I used to backpack a lot and I always carried my Nikon SLR and lots of film. (I haven't backpacked since I got a DSLR.)
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have you checked out the Canon S100? I read that this is a very good P&S.
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Old 12-21-11, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ahsposo View Post
^^^ I'm not sure film is available for those any longer.
You can still get film for a Minox.
Sears of all places carries it among others.


They still make their kick ass little spy camera too.


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I just recently went through a similar evolution in looking at a waterproof/rugged point and shoot for my outdoor activities. I was going to get a Panasonic Lumix TS3, but due to some recent reviews, and a great price on costco.com, went with a Nikon AW100. So far, so good. A heck of a lot easier to put into the handlebar bag of the MTB as opposed to my Canon DSLR and the glass.

I have some other Olympus P&S cameras, but they were not ruggedized and waterproof.

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