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Old 02-01-19, 01:47 AM
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I had a lot of 70s music live Thursday because I saw Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band in concert.
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Those lyrics still make no sense to me. "I AM MUSIC ... AND I WRITE THE SONGS!"

What is that guy talking about anyway? Manic episode? Delusions of grandeur? 44 years later, and I still have no f'in idea. I demand an explanation. And meanwhile, stop making those young girls cry, OK? He writes the songs, he writes the songs. OK, whatever.
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"I Write the Songs" is a popular song written by Bruce Johnston in 1975 and made famous by Barry Manilow. Manilow's version reached number one on the billboard Hot 100 chart in January 1976[2] after spending two weeks atop the Billboard adult contemporary chart in December 1975.[3] It won a Grammy Award for Song of the Yearand was nominated for Record of the Year in 1977.[3] Billboard ranked it as the No. 13 song of 1976.[4]

The original version was recorded by The Captain & Tennille, who worked with Johnston in the early 1970s with The Beach Boys. It appears on their 1975 album, Love Will Keep Us Together. The first release of I Write the Songs as a single was by then teen-idol David Cassidy from his 1975 solo album The Higher They Climb, which was also produced by Bruce Johnston. Cassidy's version reached #11 on the UK Singles Chart in August of that year.[5]

Johnston has stated that, for him, the "I" in the song is God,[2] and that songs come from the spirit of creativity in all of us. He has said that the song is not about his Beach Boys bandmate Brian Wilson.[6]

Manilow was initially reluctant to record the song, stating in his autobiography Sweet Life: "The problem with the song was that if you didn't listen carefully to the lyric, you would think that the singer was singing about himself. It could be misinterpreted as a monumental ego trip."[3]

After persuasion by, Clive Dav then president of Arista Records, Manilow recorded the song, and his version of "I Write the Songs" was the first single taken from the album Tryin' to Get the Feeling. It first charted on the Billboard Hot 100 on November 15, 1975, reaching the top of the chart nine weeks later, on January 17, 1976.

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Barry Manilow did a master class at the Berklee College of Music some time in the late 1980s/early 1990s, where he told this very funny story:

Early in his career he had written a tune which he was very proud of. It had a very sophisticated harmonic structure, lots of really "hip" chord changes that the jazz guys would dig, it was conspicuously erudite and clever musically speaking. And he played it for some of the suits at his record company, and their comment was: "Great! But could you dumb it down?"

So Barry takes his tune and makes some revisions. He simplifies the harmony a bit. Fewer chord changes, less dense/piquant harmonies, not quite so "hip" but still pretty sophisticated. And he takes this new version back to the record company suits and plays it for them, and their comment is "Could you dumb it down some more?"

So Barry takes his tune and makes some more revisions. He further simplifies the harmony. Now there are even fewer chord changes, far fewer dense/piquant harmonies, definitely not so "hip" and now just barely sophisticated [sic].

Barry takes this now twice-edited/dumbed version back to the record company suits, plays it for them, and sure enough they say "Can you dumb it down even further?"

According to Barry this Dumbing Down request happened six times before the record execs were happy with his tune and agreed to record/release it.


That tune was "Copacabana"
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Barry Manilow did a master class at the Berklee College of Music some time in the late 1980s/early 1990s, where he told this very funny story:

Early in his career he had written a tune which he was very proud of. It had a very sophisticated harmonic structure, lots of really "hip" chord changes that the jazz guys would dig, it was conspicuously erudite and clever musically speaking. And he played it for some of the suits at his record company, and their comment was: "Great! But could you dumb it down?"

So Barry takes his tune and makes some revisions. He simplifies the harmony a bit. Fewer chord changes, less dense/piquant harmonies, not quite so "hip" but still pretty sophisticated. And he takes this new version back to the record company suits and plays it for them, and their comment is "Could you dumb it down some more?"

So Barry takes his tune and makes some more revisions. He further simplifies the harmony. Now there are even fewer chord changes, far fewer dense/piquant harmonies, definitely not so "hip" and now just barely sophisticated [sic].

Barry takes this now twice-edited/dumbed version back to the record company suits, plays it for them, and sure enough they say "Can you dumb it down even further?"

According to Barry this Dumbing Down request happened six times before the record execs were happy with his tune and agreed to record/release it.


That tune was "Copacabana"
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Manilow was initially reluctant to record the song, stating in his autobiography Sweet Life: "The problem with the song was that if you didn't listen carefully to the lyric, you would think that the singer was singing about himself. It could be misinterpreted as a monumental ego trip."[3]
That's pretty much how I heard it. Maybe "He writes the songs" would be less confusing.

Barry Manilow did a master class at the Berklee College of Music some time in the late 1980s/early 1990s, where he told this very funny story:

Early in his career he had written a tune which he was very proud of. It had a very sophisticated harmonic structure, lots of really "hip" chord changes that the jazz guys would dig, it was conspicuously erudite and clever musically speaking. And he played it for some of the suits at his record company, and their comment was: "Great! But could you dumb it down?"

So Barry takes his tune and makes some revisions. He simplifies the harmony a bit. Fewer chord changes, less dense/piquant harmonies, not quite so "hip" but still pretty sophisticated. And he takes this new version back to the record company suits and plays it for them, and their comment is "Could you dumb it down some more?"

So Barry takes his tune and makes some more revisions. He further simplifies the harmony. Now there are even fewer chord changes, far fewer dense/piquant harmonies, definitely not so "hip" and now just barely sophisticated [sic].

Barry takes this now twice-edited/dumbed version back to the record company suits, plays it for them, and sure enough they say "Can you dumb it down even further?"

According to Barry this Dumbing Down request happened six times before the record execs were happy with his tune and agreed to record/release it.

That tune was "Copacabana"
Great story. I wonder what the result would have been if the song was dumbed-down a seventh time? *shudders* "You Make Me Feel Like Dancin'"?

Apparently Manilow would have become the next Mozart, if those damned record execs had let him have his way.

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That's pretty much how I heard it. Maybe "He writes the songs" would be less confusing.
I always looked at it in the general sense: anyone who writes songs.
Great story. I wonder what the result would have been if the song was dumbed-down a seventh time? *shudders* "You Make Me Feel Like Dancin'"?

Apparently Manilow would have become the next Mozart, if those damned record execs had let him have his way.
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Barry Manilow did a master class at the Berklee College of Music some time in the late 1980s/early 1990s, where he told this very funny story:

Early in his career he had written a tune which he was very proud of. It had a very sophisticated harmonic structure, lots of really "hip" chord changes that the jazz guys would dig, it was conspicuously erudite and clever musically speaking. And he played it for some of the suits at his record company, and their comment was: "Great! But could you dumb it down?"

So Barry takes his tune and makes some revisions. He simplifies the harmony a bit. Fewer chord changes, less dense/piquant harmonies, not quite so "hip" but still pretty sophisticated. And he takes this new version back to the record company suits and plays it for them, and their comment is "Could you dumb it down some more?"

So Barry takes his tune and makes some more revisions. He further simplifies the harmony. Now there are even fewer chord changes, far fewer dense/piquant harmonies, definitely not so "hip" and now just barely sophisticated [sic].

Barry takes this now twice-edited/dumbed version back to the record company suits, plays it for them, and sure enough they say "Can you dumb it down even further?"

According to Barry this Dumbing Down request happened six times before the record execs were happy with his tune and agreed to record/release it.


That tune was "Copacabana"
Now do you see why I post here. I thought I knew music trivia, but what I know pales in comparison with many of you. I did not know this. Although I have to admit, now I'm a little confused. On one hand it seem he's saying corporate interference stifles an artist's creativity. On the other hand, the final version did result in a monumental hit for Manilow.

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Although I have to admit, now I'm a little confused. On one hand it seem he's saying corporate interference stifles an artist's creativity. On the other hand, the final version did result in a monumental hit for Manilow.
I believe Manilow's point -- remember, he was talking to a room full of musicians...and not just musicians, but music students at a school with a reputation for producing educated jazz wankers -- was that if you wanted "a monumental hit" you might want to think closely about how your audience hears rather than worry about cramming all your hip knowledge into every tune.
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