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Old 06-30-21, 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Russ Roth
Gotta agree with Fishboat, says more about you that after a couple years it took a rant to get you enough posts to finally be able to add pictures. I can't be bothered with the cool, nice, or random single word posts; if the bike is truly cool enough to comment on then I make sure its a real comment. I also take the time to give mechanical advice.
Assuming TOC is turn of the century, don't know enough to care, it maybe means you know enough to respond to threads about wooden rims and wheels, there's a number of them over the last two years alone; I've read them also from thinking about making some wood rims for fun.

And if TOC is turn of the century, here's mine. (doesn't say which century) Its a rather ugly POS but it works and I race it.

I don't look at it as a "Rant" in order to fulfill my needs of being able to post now. I have never seen anything that I wanted to comment on over the years as nothin has interested me. It's easy to build up posts if one wants to do that with nothing important to comment on. Should I comment on your handle bar tape in order to build up my posts if I saw this photo!! You see, someone contacted me regarding track bikes after reading my profile so I tried to respond to them out of courtesy and wasn't able to do that. This is why I commented on my observation as to what a rule was that didn't quire make sense. That's not a rant as some kid put it. Turns out that he was the want that did the ranting!

I'm sorry but even with your photo of that bike I really see nothing to seriously comment on and this is why my posts are very low. I'm more interested in Zimmerman, Walthour, Jimmy Michael, Stinson, Henshaw, Rowe, Linton, Warburton, Vanderstuyft, B. Oldfield, Eddie Bald, Tom Cooper, Butler bothers, Robl, Wells, McDonald, Simms, Conn Baker, Contenet, Darragon, Kramer, Banker, Elkes, Ross, Kiser ....... just to name a few.
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Originally Posted by fishboat
One thing BF surely doesn't need is another is adolescent(acting) whiner with an attitude. ..sigh

For all the time you've reportedly spent here, and all your reported collection..there's nothing you could have offered to any of the 100's, 1000's of topics discussed here beyond "nice bike" or "welcome"? One would think that anyone with such a collection has developed a rather significant amount of experience and knowledge...and not a bit of it worth sharing..on any topic..ever?

If that's the case, as it appears to be from your own words, then honestly I'd have to wonder why you're even here. Life is short..be happy..if not here, then someplace else. If you don't like the rules..then start your own forum..that'll show them..err..somebody!

Another for the ignore list..if you're not sure what that is..open a thread and ask.
I have done exactly what you said but someone contacted me after reading my profile and saw that I was a track bike collector ( not knowing I'm a historian of early track racing ). Out of courtesy I tried to respond to this person but wasn't able to do that because I only commented 6 times over the years. I made an observation as to why I couldn't respond to a private message as I needed 10 posts. I don't see much on here to say "Nice Bike" and I have tried to give it a chance but not much here.

Ya know, this is kind of like the old guy who has an old 1904 Model T racing Ford and can't find any other groups who likes what he has. Then he see's this club called "Classic Car Forum" and decides to join. Everything is a Fairlane, Chevelle, T-Birds and then one day he sees another guy who likes Model T Fords like him and the guy tries to reach out to him. So the old timer tried to respond out of courtesy but the club says oh no, you have to have liked 10 cars or something to this nature and he can't respond. So he makes an observation and asks why he can't contact this person. All the other members in the group basically slam him but in reality they have no idea who this old guy is but it's better to bash him and tell him to go somewhere else. Real smart guys ..... better to ignore him because I'm sure you couldn't learn anything!
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No need to pile on, guys. OP had an issue, now resolved.
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Looking at your profile I ask myself: Where does one store 25 bikes — never mind 130??
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Originally Posted by OldRailfan
Looking at your profile I ask myself: Where does one store 25 bikes — never mind 130??
I have a very small room out back separate from the house which is my sport room. It is 40 ft long by about 20 ft wide. I use one side to display some bikes and the other side is my other stuff ( full bar - misc bikes etc. )

It's difficult to display everything as I also have a huge collection of 6-Day jerseys along with other memorabilia. I also used 1/2 of my 2 car garage to display some things but my race car and it's memorabilia takes up most of that space.

In the photo I would always try to display the 100 year evolution of the track bike from 1890 onwards along with a few misc Stayer bikes. Most everything though was in bike boxes stored away.

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Simple spammer control. Numerous "forum" type websites have such measures. Lacking such things, it can be an impossible challenge to stop spammers from doing what they do.

Minor hurdle for those who'll be sticking around, on a site, IMO.
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That original collection of 130 TOC bikes must have been one of the most significant such collections in the U.S., if not the world. Even now, the smaller version of the OP's collection sounds like a treasure.

The possibility of discovering 1890s to 1920s bikes still out there in the wild is surely diminishing, but bike parts and accessories are likely sitting around in garages and sheds, waiting to be discovered. Speaking of which, a bike shop that I worked in in the mid-1970s was still owned by the fellow who had opened the shop in the 1930s. I once asked him a question about older bikes, and he opened the shed behind the shop and showed me his collection, including a high-wheeler tandem tricycle. I noticed that one or two bikes had wooden rims and asked about them. He laughed and said, "I finally threw out my pile of 30 or 40 new wooden rims a couple of years ago. Turns out they're collectible now!"

A bit modern for this thread, but I'll just mention that I wish I had bought his display of Delta Electric Co. horns and lights, in the original boxes, which included the Rocket Ray and Super Rocket Ray headlights and the Gangway electric horn. (Also the set of palomino-dyed-rabbit-fur-covered panniers with brass buckles embossed with crossed six-guns.)
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I feel bad in the case of someone like the OP that has been here for years and never posted 10 posts. But we have spammers that set up accounts years before they spam. They play a long game sometimes. It's common for one group to set up the accounts and someone else to do the actual spamming. I imagine there are possibly 3 groups, a third to prepare the accounts so they can be used for spamming. We try to make the return as low as possible.
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Originally Posted by OldRailfan
Looking at your profile I ask myself: Where does one store 25 bikes — never mind 130??
When the border gets reopened, consider taking a road trip to Northbend, Washington and visit Bob Freeman's collection. He has >100 immaculate vintage bikes living in 3 sheds, a container, and in his house.
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So he's a collector, good for him.
I never collected anything, probably lack that particular gene.
Used to drive some hobby shop owners squirrely, not easy to sell to a guy who knows exactly what fits the theme he has in mind and follows it. Never mind the temptations.
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Originally Posted by 1oldtrackie

It's difficult to display everything as I also have a huge collection of 6-Day jerseys along with other memorabilia. I also used 1/2 of my 2 car garage to display some things but my race car and it's memorabilia takes up most of that space.


Now, I need to see the race car!
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Originally Posted by 1oldtrackie
I have a very small room out back separate from the house which is my sport room. It is 40 ft long by about 20 ft wide. I use one side to display some bikes and the other side is my other stuff ( full bar - misc bikes etc. )

It's difficult to display everything as I also have a huge collection of 6-Day jerseys along with other memorabilia. I also used 1/2 of my 2 car garage to display some things but my race car and it's memorabilia takes up most of that space.

In the photo I would always try to display the 100 year evolution of the track bike from 1890 onwards along with a few misc Stayer bikes. Most everything though was in bike boxes stored away.


Jeez, those look fascinating! The one on the left--how big is that chain ring? Also, were those "backwards" forks common back then?

And I can't help but ask, do you ride them?
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Originally Posted by gugie
When the border gets reopened, consider taking a road trip to Northbend, Washington and visit Bob Freeman's collection. He has >100 immaculate vintage bikes living in 3 sheds, a container, and in his house.
I know Bob Freeman very well and we used to display bikes together many years ago. His collection is mostly road bikes but he does have a couple of track bikes.
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Originally Posted by OldRailfan
So he's a collector, good for him.
I never collected anything, probably lack that particular gene.
Used to drive some hobby shop owners squirrely, not easy to sell to a guy who knows exactly what fits the theme he has in mind and follows it. Never mind the temptations.
When I lived in B.C. Canada myself I collected early track bikes all the time. I think you're right about that missing "Gene" thing you're lacking!!
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Jeez, those look fascinating! The one on the left--how big is that chain ring? Also, were those "backwards" forks common back then?

And I can't help but ask, do you ride them?
Out of the 130 or so plus track bikes, I would say maybe 5 actually fit me. Everything else was always a display piece for the collection.

I think the big chainring is a 40 tooth inch pitch which would make it 80 tooth in the 1/2 we ride today.

I had about a dozen Stayer bikes with the reversed fork but only a few shown here in that photo. The reversed fork is correct for Stayer bikes pacing behind the Motors.
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Now, I need to see the race car!
If you like Drag Racing cars then you may like my Blown Fuel Altered. It's the famous "Magic Muffler" Fiat that ran 1965 through 1968 here in southern Ca. The body is actually a 1948 Fiat Topolino and motor is a 1957 392 Chrysler Hemi.

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Originally Posted by 1oldtrackie
When I lived in B.C. Canada myself I collected early track bikes all the time. I think you're right about that missing "Gene" thing you're lacking!!


One of my other hobbies is model railroading; back in the mid-eighties I got rid of everything that didn't fit the theme, a few years later I sold more of the "stuff" when I narrowed down the theme. In '99, after deciding to move from Ont to BC, came the next "clean out" while switching from 1:87 scale to 1:22.5 scale. Selling the smaller stuff provided the starter to the present garden railway.
And the same theme was narrowed down once more.
It must be that missing gene. Just not into "collecting".
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No wings on that Topolino? That was the precursor to the Fiat 500!

I remember it well from my childhood in Switzerland! That and the Deux Chevaux; not very fast but still getting from A to B.
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Originally Posted by 1oldtrackie
Out of the 130 or so plus track bikes, I would say maybe 5 actually fit me. Everything else was always a display piece for the collection.

I think the big chainring is a 40 tooth inch pitch which would make it 80 tooth in the 1/2 we ride today.

I had about a dozen Stayer bikes with the reversed fork but only a few shown here in that photo. The reversed fork is correct for Stayer bikes pacing behind the Motors.

I think you should start a thread in General Cycling using your bikes to illustrate track bike history. GC because otherwise you'd have to choose between racing forum and classic & vintage. BF doesn't have a history forum, and GC really needs some new topics. I'm fascinated by that picture and excited to see more, and since I know absolutely nothing about the subject would love to learn. I think there's a bunch of people on GC who'd feel the same way.
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Wow, thats quite a piece of drag racing history! Those altereds were just insane.
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Wow!

Originally Posted by 1oldtrackie
I have a very small room out back separate from the house which is my sport room. It is 40 ft long by about 20 ft wide. I use one side to display some bikes and the other side is my other stuff ( full bar - misc bikes etc. )

It's difficult to display everything as I also have a huge collection of 6-Day jerseys along with other memorabilia. I also used 1/2 of my 2 car garage to display some things but my race car and it's memorabilia takes up most of that space.

In the photo I would always try to display the 100 year evolution of the track bike from 1890 onwards along with a few misc Stayer bikes. Most everything though was in bike boxes stored away.

WOW! That's an impressive collection you have there. Hope you share more photos.
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Amusing that one has to randomly ‘spam’ to be able to contribute fully.

(spoken from the standpoint of a new user adding yet more ‘spam’ to reach 10 posts…)
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Amusing that one has to randomly ‘spam’ to be able to contribute fully.

(spoken from the standpoint of a new user adding yet more ‘spam’ to reach 10 posts…)
Perhaps instead of spamming the forum maybe go to our Introductions forum and tell us a bit about yourself. Then maybe say hello to some other new forum members.
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Amusing that one has to randomly ‘spam’ to be able to contribute fully.

(spoken from the standpoint of a new user adding yet more ‘spam’ to reach 10 posts…)
Are you selling something we should know about?
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