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wroomwroomoops 03-13-08 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Brian (Post 6339575)
No one said anything about your IP address. There are some people that create multiple accounts to post inappropriate comments, and they'll all show up under one IP address. I_luv_hooters should now have two accounts associated with his IP address. At least, I hope it's only two.

OK, look, I am trying to figure out why some of us had these issues. And it's conspicuous that it was "the troublemakers" as we shall be known. I know others had problems, too, but I'm not talking just slower loading of pages, I'm talking multiple failed attempts, sometimes blank pages, more than 9 out of 10 times not able to access any kind of content on BF. The degree of deterioration brings a new quality to the quantity of "problems".

As for hooters having two accounts associated with "his" IP address, did it occur to you (plural) that IP addresses are usually administered and provided by a DHCP server randomly, or several people may be using the same IP address when shielded by a network address translation firewall. When I was working at Nokia, everyone in our campus had the same IP address visible externally, and at one time Slashdot banned that IP address because of one boneheaded guy what was trying to overwhealm their webservers. So we all were cut off.

I_luv_hooters 03-13-08 08:43 PM

OK Brian, this admittedly is only my theory: Why would you monitor us? I have no exact reason. I think you didn't like our opinions or the way we presented them concerning the tommassini debate. You did say we weren't wealthy enough to purchase one so our opinions don't matter. You were at every single tommassini thread making your presence known. Right? You wanted trouble makers to be quiet. Right? Essentially you were looking for violations of the Bike Forums guidelines. Something. Anything. Also, maybe you didnt like the "tiny violins" comment (which you must now admint was funny). I don't know. But mrrabbit hit it on the head as far as I'm concerned. Read below.

Originally Posted by mrrabbit (Post 6332195)
I do know a few things can go on with forum apps...
Oftentimes when you apply auditing features, user and log monitoring features, it is going to cause some module(s) built into the forum software to work overtime eating up CPU cycles and RAM and disk swap when an audited/monitored user or IP address generates activity.

This means if Brian is "monitoring" us (or has us on an active list of people the forum software will keep tabs on), and we log on or do anything, the whole website is slowed down because the utilty software is not set to the right "threshhold".



Originally Posted by mrrabbit (Post 6332195)

And of course since the session cookies, logs and such are in this case being fed into MySQL/Oracle/PSQL it effectively loads the hard drive again...

Your queries at the shell SQL level in text mode simply flushed some cached tables and buffers freeing up some memory and thereby speeding things up a tad...

So chances are, you just need to stop or lower some threshhold of any admin utility interface used to apply infraction points, language filtering, ip and user log and activity monitoring.

And for those who don't like reading the above...

...take a deep breath, exhale slowly...relax the fists and fingers...it is not much different from school teachers and vp's monitoring the playground for a day or so after a little fight between us kids...um...excuse me...us adults...

So relax guys....

...and Brian...just take care of it please....

Thanks!

=8-)

He did. Thats why we all got our normal usage back. Am I wrong here? Anyway, thats my theory. Or, it could be as simple as cuda2K running IP traces on all of us for the same reasons and that alone was enough to cause the problem. I have more reason to believe and feel inclined to believe the first explanation though.

Also, I actually do have enough money to buy one of those frames, but I'd rather not.

I_luv_hooters 03-13-08 08:49 PM

I have 2 IDs and Brian said that was ok for the reasons I did it. I only did it to see if what others were saying was true. It was. My original ID was slowed down, not my computer or my cache. I actually don't want the other ID anymore but i don't know how to delete it.

Brian 03-14-08 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops (Post 6339690)
As for hooters having two accounts associated with "his" IP address, did it occur to you (plural) that IP addresses are usually administered and provided by a DHCP server randomly, or several people may be using the same IP address when shielded by a network address translation firewall.

Yes, we are aware that more than one user can be on the same IP address. But that is irrelevant. Figuring out when it's one person with multiple usernames is rarely rocket science.


Originally Posted by I_luv_hooters (Post 6339696)
OK Brian, this admittedly is only my theory: Why would you monitor us? I have no exact reason.

Here we go again. There would be no need to monitor you, or any other user. None of us could be bothered to take the time to keep tabs on any individual user. Inappropriate posts generally get reported to the moderators queue pretty quickly by other members.


Originally Posted by I_luv_hooters (Post 6339696)
I think you didn't like our opinions or the way we presented them concerning the tommassini debate. You did say we weren't wealthy enough to purchase one so our opinions don't matter.

There was no Tommasini "debate". I think "razzing" would be a better word, don't you? Regardless of how ridiculous the original allegations may have seemed, Tina should not have been subjected to as much abuse as she was. I've gone over that already. And here is my quote, copied right from that post:

"Reviewing this thread, I suspect that many of the negative comments came from posters that would never dream of purchasing a Tommasini, or would not have the means to do so."

That comment was based on the fact that several members in the SS/Fixie contingent were pretty vocal about the fact that they would never buy a Tommasini road frame, but would consider a Gorilla track frame.


Originally Posted by I_luv_hooters (Post 6339696)
You were at every single tommassini thread making your presence known. Right? You wanted trouble makers to be quiet. Right? Essentially you were looking for violations of the Bike Forums guidelines. Something. Anything. Also, maybe you didnt like the "tiny violins" comment (which you must now admint was funny). I don't know. But mrrabbit hit it on the head as far as I'm concerned.

Out of at least seven Tommasini threads, I'm pretty sure I only posted in 3 or maybe four, at the most. Is there something surprising about the admin posting? Why do you think anyone would go looking for violations of the guidelines? On the one hand, they're not usually too hard to find. On the other hand, that's kind of the point of moderating a forum, isn't it? Or are we doing this all wrong?


Originally Posted by I_luv_hooters (Post 6339696)
This means if Brian is "monitoring" us (or has us on an active list of people the forum software will keep tabs on), and we log on or do anything, the whole website is slowed down because the utilty software is not set to the right "threshhold".

Except that no such utility exists, making that theory moot.

[edit] Fark! I typed all that out, and got an error message when I hit the Preview button. Luckily, I always copy my long posts before submitting, in case there is a server issue. :p

cuda2k 03-14-08 06:29 AM

I just want to know who crashed the entire site for near if not over an hour last night. I know it wasn't me... this time! :crash:

Brian 03-14-08 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by cuda2k (Post 6340802)
I just want to know who crashed the entire site for near if not over an hour last night. I know it wasn't me... this time! :crash:

I was writing the foil hat thesis you see above. And I had to wait until this morning to post it. Must be a conspiracy.

East Hill 03-14-08 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by I_luv_hooters (Post 6339696)
You were at every single tommassini thread making your presence known.


This is not true. Brian made no posting to the Tommasini thread in C & V.

Just sayin'.

East Hill

Brian 03-14-08 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by East Hill (Post 6341193)
This is not true. Brian made no posting to the Tommasini thread in C & V.

Just sayin'.

East Hill

That thread was apparently quite civil.

East Hill 03-14-08 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Brian (Post 6341222)
That thread was apparently quite civil.

We do tend to be a bit quieter there.

East Hill

lotek 03-14-08 10:07 AM

I wasn't logged in last night, but I do have a foil hat.
and as an aside, weaving the foil in one's hair works just as well.
I saw a whole family in Alexandria, Va. who presented to the ER that
way, being that close to pentagon and CIA, well we learned a lot.

marty

East Hill 03-14-08 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by lotek (Post 6341838)
I wasn't logged in last night, but I do have a foil hat.
and as an aside, weaving the foil in one's hair works just as well.
I saw a whole family in Alexandria, Va. who presented to the ER that
way, being that close to pentagon and CIA, well we learned a lot.

marty

Dang, I learned something new. Here I always thought that hair foil wraps were just for colouring hair. I never thought about the side benefits of foil weaving.

Thanks lotek!

East Hill

lotek 03-14-08 01:23 PM

reflects Gamma rays too.

huerro 03-14-08 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Brian (Post 6340825)
I was writing the foil hat thesis you see above. And I had to wait until this morning to post it. Must be a conspiracy.

No. It happened just as I was trying to post my mustache pic in the "Show us your mustaches" thread in foo.

BF simply couldn't handle how rad my 'stache is.

East Hill 03-14-08 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by huerro (Post 6343789)
No. It happened just as I was trying to post my mustache pic in the "Show us your mustaches" thread in foo.

BF simply couldn't handle how rad my 'stache is.

All three variations--way cool :p !

East Hill

Brian 03-14-08 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by huerro (Post 6343789)
No. It happened just as I was trying to post my mustache pic in the "Show us your mustaches" thread in foo.

BF simply couldn't handle how rad my 'stache is.

I just posted mine in there, and the server didn't crash. I can only conclude that mine is either way better than yours, or nowhere near as rad as yours.

Siu Blue Wind 03-14-08 06:47 PM

Oh you guy's don't EVEN want to see my moustache.

doofo 03-14-08 07:47 PM

yeah we do ^

East Hill 03-14-08 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by doofo (Post 6345174)
yeah we do ^

See, now that's what I was going to say. But in a good way :) .

East Hill


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