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03-18-08, 05:42 PM
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Regional forums
If I am off base here just let me know but this really bugs me.
Our community of cyclists is small enough as it is. When I venture into a regional forum and see really good biking threads that have nothing to do with that particular region it bothers me. Member merider and myself have been having a little banter today concerning a thread about Garmin's that was in the So-cal forum. I suggested it would be nice if the info was in the Roadbike forum instead so everyone would see it and be able to take part in the discussion instead of hidden in a Regional thread. My thinking is simple.....Regional forums should be used for regional information and everything else should go into the appropriate forum.
What are your thoughts?
Our community of cyclists is small enough as it is. When I venture into a regional forum and see really good biking threads that have nothing to do with that particular region it bothers me. Member merider and myself have been having a little banter today concerning a thread about Garmin's that was in the So-cal forum. I suggested it would be nice if the info was in the Roadbike forum instead so everyone would see it and be able to take part in the discussion instead of hidden in a Regional thread. My thinking is simple.....Regional forums should be used for regional information and everything else should go into the appropriate forum.
What are your thoughts?
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03-18-08, 05:49 PM
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If I am off base here just let me know but this really bugs me.
Our community of cyclists is small enough as it is. When I venture into a regional forum and see really good biking threads that have nothing to do with that particular region it bothers me. Member merider and myself have been having a little banter today concerning a thread about Garmin's that was in the So-cal forum. I suggested it would be nice if the info was in the Roadbike forum instead so everyone would see it and be able to take part in the discussion instead of hidden in a Regional thread. My thinking is simple.....Regional forums should be used for regional information and everything else should go into the appropriate forum.
What are your thoughts?
Our community of cyclists is small enough as it is. When I venture into a regional forum and see really good biking threads that have nothing to do with that particular region it bothers me. Member merider and myself have been having a little banter today concerning a thread about Garmin's that was in the So-cal forum. I suggested it would be nice if the info was in the Roadbike forum instead so everyone would see it and be able to take part in the discussion instead of hidden in a Regional thread. My thinking is simple.....Regional forums should be used for regional information and everything else should go into the appropriate forum.
What are your thoughts?
They were also meant to be welcoming to local riders, and supportive of all who wish to ride, no matter what the bike or rider's ability.
I hate to see a good concept drift away from that.
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03-18-08, 07:31 PM
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I just use View New Posts to scan all the threads and join into any topic that catches my interest, no matter what forum it happens to be in. These are the intrawebs, we don' need no stinkin borders! 
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03-18-08, 07:36 PM
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03-18-08, 07:43 PM
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Yes, but that is because you are well versed in the art of finding stuff.
I think Gary's concern was that there was a thread of interest in a regional forum, which he thought would be well worth sharing in Road Cycling, or General Cycling.
I know you aren't going to believe this Chip, but there are still people here who don't know that the regional forums exist, and who don't know how to use 'View New Posts', and who don't know what 'Spy' does
...That was all...
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03-18-08, 07:48 PM
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East Hill is 100% correct. It is not just one thread but many many threads. I think members get comfortable posting in there "local" forum and forget that they are part of a much larger family.
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03-18-08, 07:59 PM
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Yes, but that is because you are well versed in the art of finding stuff.
I think Gary's concern was that there was a thread of interest in a regional forum, which he thought would be well worth sharing in Road Cycling, or General Cycling.
I know you aren't going to believe this Chip, but there are still people here who don't know that the regional forums exist, and who don't know how to use 'View New Posts', and who don't know what 'Spy' does ...
That was all...
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I think Gary's concern was that there was a thread of interest in a regional forum, which he thought would be well worth sharing in Road Cycling, or General Cycling.
I know you aren't going to believe this Chip, but there are still people here who don't know that the regional forums exist, and who don't know how to use 'View New Posts', and who don't know what 'Spy' does
...That was all...
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"Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey
03-18-08, 08:00 PM
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I consider all of these different forums with the same disgust as I did all the fences out west. I'm an open range dinosaur!
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03-18-08, 08:01 PM
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03-18-08, 08:07 PM
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If the topic is in the least little bit regional related than I would say by all means keep it in your regional forum. But if it is something like "My Surly developed a crack" .....Don't you think that all the Surly owners on Bike Forums might want to know about it?
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03-18-08, 08:07 PM
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I really don't think it would be hard to have a thread appear in multiple forums but still only be one thread, with the listings in the other forums merely being pointers or redirects. Then there would be no headaches for moderators to have to manage multiple threads of the same topic and it would make merging multiple threads more user friendly.
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03-18-08, 08:09 PM
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That is a stunning idea. The poster could choose multiple locations from a pull down menu when they initiate the post.
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03-18-08, 08:15 PM
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Hmm, wonder if this forum software is open source.
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03-18-08, 08:23 PM
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I didn't mean I would try to crack BF, but many of the PHP based forum packages like this are open source...meaning anyone could make modifications for their own use that might also be incorporated into the next release of the original. I would never recommend home-brew mods for a production system, because they tend to go bye-bye upon the next upgrade and void any support one might have from the vendor. But if BF is based on open source software, we might be able to add a mod to a future release. 
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03-18-08, 08:44 PM
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I think that vBulletin is owned by Jelsoft which is owned by Internet Brands?
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03-18-08, 08:52 PM
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Frack...no wonder this thing has had so many problems in the past.
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03-18-08, 09:11 PM
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BTW, we've initiated some discussion on this subject amongst the members of the moderation team. Don't stop posting here, though...
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03-18-08, 09:14 PM
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I say, just let people post where they're most comfortable....
although, having said that, I think it would be a cool idea to learn how people, both newbies and chipcom, use BF. I know it took me months to figure out that "Bike Forums" and "Bike Forums>Bike Forums" where two completely different areas. I think one should be called home. I didn't know anything about regionals, or for sale or this area until I was online for months.
I usually go to my user control panel. If I have more time, I go to the forums I like best. Then I go to forums I only dabble in. Then, if I'm still in the mood, I View New Posts.
although, having said that, I think it would be a cool idea to learn how people, both newbies and chipcom, use BF. I know it took me months to figure out that "Bike Forums" and "Bike Forums>Bike Forums" where two completely different areas. I think one should be called home. I didn't know anything about regionals, or for sale or this area until I was online for months.
I usually go to my user control panel. If I have more time, I go to the forums I like best. Then I go to forums I only dabble in. Then, if I'm still in the mood, I View New Posts.
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vBulletine is written in PHP and is open source, though not free. You can modifiy it how ever you wish. The license agreement states:
The Software source code may be altered (at your risk)
vBulletin does have plug-ins, though I don't know if the option to post to multiple forums is one.
Why the Roadbike forum? Wouldn't the General Cycling or Electronics, Lighting, & Gadgets forums be a better choice?
I do agree that looking at all new posts will allow you to catch everything. On some forums, I do this, but not this one. I have no interests in certain subjects. As it is now, I have to scan through many threads to find ones that I have an interest. If I had to scan through all the forums...
I would not care for that. There are categories for a reason and people should post in the proper locations. With that said, it is sometimes hard to decide which forum to create a new thread. Especially when it is an equipment question. For example, I have a question about the durability of the XT's aluminum axle for loaded touring. Should I post this in the Touring forum or the Mechanics forum? Though the Mechanics forum doesn't sound like a place to ask about equipment but to ask about how to repair or install items. Another example is racks. I want a new rack for a bike that will be a touring and a commuting bike. In which forum should I post?
I agree. People should post in the proper forum. Moderators should move threads that are not in the proper forum.
The Software source code may be altered (at your risk)
vBulletin does have plug-ins, though I don't know if the option to post to multiple forums is one.
Originally Posted by garysol1
I suggested it would be nice if the info was in the Roadbike forum instead so everyone would see it and be able to take part in the discussion instead of hidden in a Regional thread.
Originally Posted by chipcom
I just use View New Posts to scan all the threads and join into any topic that catches my interest, no matter what forum it happens to be in. These are the intrawebs, we don' need no stinkin borders!
I consider all of these different forums with the same disgust as I did all the fences out west. I'm an open range dinosaur!
I consider all of these different forums with the same disgust as I did all the fences out west. I'm an open range dinosaur!
I would not care for that. There are categories for a reason and people should post in the proper locations. With that said, it is sometimes hard to decide which forum to create a new thread. Especially when it is an equipment question. For example, I have a question about the durability of the XT's aluminum axle for loaded touring. Should I post this in the Touring forum or the Mechanics forum? Though the Mechanics forum doesn't sound like a place to ask about equipment but to ask about how to repair or install items. Another example is racks. I want a new rack for a bike that will be a touring and a commuting bike. In which forum should I post?
Originally Posted by garysol1
.Regional forums should be used for regional information and everything else should go into the appropriate forum.
What are your thoughts?
What are your thoughts?
03-18-08, 10:57 PM
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Yeah, now that I've actually read the thread, the best thing probably would have been to just flag it for a mod to move.
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03-20-08, 02:42 PM
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don't tempt me to park this brontosaurus butt on your chest, roadie boy!
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