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benm 08-11-08 09:07 PM

Hi Cassave,

Beautiful work. How did you make the decals? Or, where did you have them made?

Is the white panel one giant decal or was it painted separately?

benm 08-12-08 11:29 PM

I found the answer to my first question inside the thread several pages back: Pappilio waterslide paper.

And I'm deducing that the panels must be painted separately because computer printers don't print white.

Fissile 08-13-08 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by benm (Post 7262230)
I found the answer to my first question inside the thread several pages back: Pappilio waterslide paper.

And I'm deducing that the panels must be painted separately because computer printers don't print white.

You can buy white waterslide paper for inkjet printers.

Cassave 08-13-08 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by benm (Post 7262230)
I found the answer to my first question inside the thread several pages back: Pappilio waterslide paper.

And I'm deducing that the panels must be painted separately because computer printers don't print white.

Yes. The white panels were painted right after primer and before the blue.

I used clear waterslide paper. Works quite well and I'm hoping they will be fairly fade resistant.
They were printed using Epson archival pigment based inks.

jmaskel 12-03-08 10:45 PM

Great thread. Once I get all my tools together I'll be checking this thread all of the time.

wcoastbikr 12-04-08 12:07 PM

I'll take one either in brushed steel or polished with just a clear coat please.

Gorgeous bike. Incredible build.

Rodjs 12-04-08 05:16 PM

I literally have tears, tops any bike I've ever seen!

lemondzurich 12-10-08 12:12 AM

Cassave - How do you clean up your joints after brazing and washing off the flux? Any special tools or techniques?

Cassave 12-10-08 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by lemondzurich (Post 7995948)
Cassave - How do you clean up your joints after brazing and washing off the flux? Any special tools or techniques?

I guess you mean removing excess silver? Nothing special. 150 grit production tape and diemaker's files.
If the joint is brazed correctly there's no much to do after washing off the flux. Just a few passes with the file where the silver was fed into the lug.

big john 12-10-08 02:39 PM

Here is the bike on a local century (TDF) last Saturday.
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...53/cassave.jpg

JustCruisin 12-10-08 06:08 PM

I just finished reading this whole entry. As a tool maker for most of my life, from one craftsman to another BRAVO, beautiful and true to style. Beauty and simplicity.

Cassave 12-10-08 10:09 PM

Thank you.
Much appreciated.

Doconabike 12-27-08 04:49 PM

Thanks for posting this beautiful thread.
Very inspiring.

linux_author 12-27-08 05:02 PM

<sigh>

thank you for documenting the build and finished ride!!

umd 12-27-08 05:06 PM

I was just talking about this on my ride today with a guy that builds frames.

Allen 10-09-09 01:49 PM

Moving to framebuilding and being made a sticky there.

hytek369 10-16-09 09:19 PM

incredible talent

BackRoadsBiker 11-01-09 03:41 PM

Thank you so much for documenting your build. I have been waiting to build my first frame for ages, and you have given me the last little push over the edge. I am going to order my tubeset tonight.

Thanks again.

Cassave 11-01-09 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by BackRoadsBiker (Post 9964155)
Thank you so much for documenting your build. I have been waiting to build my first frame for ages, and you have given me the last little push over the edge. I am going to order my tubeset tonight.

Thanks again.

I think I posted back there somewhere that if this thread pushed anyone over the brink to building a frame it would be icing on the cake.

Have fun and enjoy the process.

jcatalanello 11-05-09 02:45 PM

Hey, I just found this tread sort of at random, and I have to say, that is the most beautiful bike I have ever seen. I just set it as my desktop background. Even my wife, who can't really tell the difference between one bike and another thought it was very "pretty". Way to go man. I think the lugged steel frame with sort of an old school look, mixed with the new components really has a sharp look to it. In my opinion, you couldn't have gone with a better color. That blue is almost the same as what I wanted to repaint my bike with. I know you have gotten it a lot, but I just wanted to say well done! Enjoy it.

Lenton58 11-16-09 08:27 AM

A master craftsman, an artisan — a true piece of art in the form of the most elegant machine
ever invented. Thanks for letting us witness your work.

engo 11-19-09 05:02 PM

This is a great thread....concise yet thorough, with ideal use of visual aids. I'm planning a frame build sometime in the next year or so, and seeing your jig was really helpful. Many thanks!
Neil

Bus Driver 11-20-09 08:37 PM

You Make It Look so easy. Outstanding, no words can describe this work of machine and art. Having said that, a couple of questions? Your main fixture/jig, I assume you built this. Very impressive. Any chance of a descripition of how you built it, etc. Also did you full braze in it or just tack? It seems the fixture is free floating enough to braze in it (with proper align checks). Thanks for any info you provide, as I think My fixture/jig in progress will end up very similar to yours. (imitation is the purist form of flattery) Thanks Ted

longbeachgary 11-20-09 09:14 PM

Wow

Cassave 11-21-09 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Bus Driver (Post 10058706)
You Make It Look so easy. Outstanding, no words can describe this work of machine and art. Having said that, a couple of questions?
Your main fixture/jig, I assume you built this. Very impressive.
Any chance of a descripition of how you built it, etc. Also did you full braze in it or just tack? It seems the fixture is free floating enough to braze in it (with proper align checks).
Thanks for any info you provide, as I think My fixture/jig in progress will end up very similar to yours. (imitation is the purist form of flattery) Thanks Ted

Yes, I did build all the fixtures and jigs. The main frame jig is as you can see, just some 1/2" AL plate, some toggle vises and a few lengths of hot rolled angle.
I spent alot of time making sure it's coplanar on all the tube locatinf bits (used a large surface plate and height gage etc.)
All brazing is done in the fixturing. The main fixture rotates on a horizontal axis so I can locate the joint for a gravity assist.
Glad you enjoyed the thread.


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