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jmichaeldesign 12-21-09 11:14 PM

Brazing Stainless
 
I just ordered some tubing to start building racks and I ordered a bit of stainless to try out. I know I need silver brazing rod, but I don't know exactly what I need. I read that it needs to have nickel in it to stop the stainless from corroding. I also read I can use nickel brazing rod without silver in it for stainless, but it has a much higher melting temperature. What would work better for small fillets, and where's the bet place to buy it from?

NoReg 12-22-09 12:33 AM

I buy 45% SafetySilv off ebay. Use the same company's flux which I can get locally. The 45% is fine for fillets.

unterhausen 12-22-09 12:11 PM

you can also get fillet pro from Fred Parr. Nice stuff, and I think his "Stainless Lite" flux is the best flux I've used. I've never used 45% so I can't compare it to fillet pro.

I just got some nickel silver rod from Henry James. I just need to find some stainless tubing to try it on.

NoReg 12-23-09 02:03 AM

By reputation, anything from Fred ought to be tops. Is he back in the swing of things?

As far as the 45% goes, hit the right heat, and it self levels in a nice fillet inside and outside of the tube. It is even possible to get results with a propane Bernzomatic torch. Nothing I built during that stage has failed.

jmichaeldesign 12-23-09 09:42 AM

I'm leaning towards try some nickel silver rod from Henry James. At 1/10 the price of silver I just can't justify it. Not when I'm making stuff just for fun at least.

sannerbikes700 12-23-09 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by jmichaeldesign (Post 10180918)
I'm leaning towards try some nickel silver rod from Henry James. At 1/10 the price of silver I just can't justify it. Not when I'm making stuff just for fun at least.

Nickel silver works fine on stainless. Use bronze flux rather than silver flux.

Dave A 12-25-09 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by sannerbikes700 (Post 10183015)
Nickel silver works fine on stainless. Use bronze flux rather than silver flux.

I agree!

NoReg 12-25-09 05:10 PM

Maybe so, but a single oz of solder from the local welding supply and some flux cost me less than the postage from most places, silver prices have gone up a lot in the last few years, though.

Dave A 12-25-09 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Peterpan1 (Post 10188618)
Maybe so, but a single oz of solder from the local welding supply and some flux cost me less than the postage from most places, silver prices have gone up a lot in the last few years, though.

See this:

http://www.bernzomatic.com/PRODUCTS/...3/Default.aspx

Its available in most hardware stores alongside the Benz-O-Matic stuff for only a few dollars. I use nickel silver on stainless all of the time...

Dave

NoReg 12-25-09 10:39 PM

Ok, I have some of that for staking pins. Never used it for brazing. The wealth untapped in the shop!


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