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Malk4vi4n 07-26-10 10:58 AM

Hello everyone, missed me?
Anyway, I'm taking a little longer to lay up the fiber beacause I want it to be perfect. I'll let pictures do the talking:

The frame after main reinforcement. There will be another layer of fiber for aesthetics before finishing;
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/...ec1c9761_z.jpg


The fork tube;
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4149/...43019c64_z.jpg


The bottom. There will be more layers here;
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/...e16f89a4_z.jpg


From another angle;
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/...d36ef91e_z.jpg


The top section. Already sanded for the final layup that will cover a bigger portion of the seat stays. As soon as I measure the break tube size and position with the weels on;
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4105/...19997dd4_z.jpg


The left rear Dropout. I'll sand it today and find out if its tight enough;
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4145/...1ccb90e7_z.jpg


Aaaaand the right one, witch was compressed after lay up;
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/...4373b2f2_z.jpg


This is the reason working with fiber is a pain in the a$$. It would be easier with a Carbon tape but thats part of my challenge;
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4111/...57d85a13_z.jpg

Canaboo 07-28-10 07:11 AM

Get some electrical tape and wrap the lugs after you've applied the glass and resin. That will pack it all down flat and make things much neater and stronger.
It will peel off cleanly after the Epoxy cures.
Just make sure you start wrapping the tape up the bamboo well away from the wet Epoxy to anchor it and then just spiral it down to the lug. That way you're not just spinning the materials around and pulling everything out of place.

Malk4vi4n 07-29-10 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by Canaboo (Post 11188518)
Get some electrical tape and wrap the lugs after you've applied the glass and resin. That will pack it all down flat and make things much neater and stronger.
It will peel off cleanly after the Epoxy cures.
Just make sure you start wrapping the tape up the bamboo well away from the wet Epoxy to anchor it and then just spiral it down to the lug. That way you're not just spinning the materials around and pulling everything out of place.

I wish you told me that 2 days ago! I figured it out after a while but didn't use electrical tape. I'll take some pictures tomorrow, maybe after I finish the work with fiber.

Canaboo 07-29-10 06:52 AM

Sorry. You can always rasp and sand most of it away and apply a second layer.

Sexy_Lugs 08-02-10 12:23 PM

wow man your really inspiring me to start working on my first bike project. Not building my own frame, but I will be taking a 71 Peugeot frame and sanding and repainting it to my likings... I cant wait to see the final product, keep up the good work!

Malk4vi4n 08-25-10 05:01 PM

Hey guys, guess who took me for a test drive on my garage today!
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/...6921b1c1_z.jpg

I'll apply a layer of GelCoat to it soon.

FlatSix911 08-26-10 01:22 AM

Well done ... post a few detailed photos before and after the gel coat :thumb:

lortech 09-13-10 01:55 PM

pretty impressive
 
Was not sure how you were going to streagthen the ends untill I got to the end of the thread. Are you going to smooth out the fiberglass and paint them so thay could look like one piece? that would look nice.

BTW, Carbon fiber and kevlar are tough. But, would jbweld used as a epoxy applied to carbon fiber make it that much more stronger? has anyone done this?

Canaboo 09-16-10 02:40 PM

Epoxy used for composite construction has to wet out the reinforcing material. JB weld does not wet out fabric and in fact I don't believe it has strength properties any greater than other epoxies.
There is a reason they have such a broad range of specific epoxies for composite construction.

ultraman6970 09-17-10 08:50 AM

More pics?

Malk4vi4n 09-23-10 08:07 PM

Ppl been asking for pictures and though I didn't had much time to work on it latelly, here it goes:

Full shot of the bike
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4113/...4dc74f27_b.jpg


Detail on my broken shifter support. The problem was that the hole for the screw to enter wasn't deep enough so as I screwed it in harder, it was pushing the hole thing out.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4130/...aeb42550_b.jpg


Detail on my improvised dropouts. They worked out fine.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4150/...0afc286a_z.jpg


The "cable guide" under the BB. When I apply the GelCoat I will dig it deeper.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4151/...4c2f8511_z.jpg


And that's why I regret integrating the BB in the frame, I ended up using a kinda narrow one.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/...8d376ab6_z.jpg


The seat part. I'm proud of the brake fit, its working great.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4152/...81c8904a_z.jpg


Front section. Maybe my top tube has too thin walls (I used ~2mm), I don't trust sitting on it but it sure looks beautiful.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4153/...f39b9995_z.jpg


It will look great after I apply GelCoat to the lugs and varnish the bamboo.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4130/...bdbd34a8_z.jpg

Malk4vi4n 09-23-10 08:15 PM

And for the Bamboo 2.0 I'm designing my custom metal lugs. It will be a mountain bike and the lugs have 3mm walls (except for the seatpost clamp area) what do you think?
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/...cb3dc0e842.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/...9fb19eede1.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4127/...a7c745db6d.jpg


And finally the yet unfinished dropouts. Does anyone know the threading pattern for the caliper mounting holes on a disc brake system?
For me, it looks elegant.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4130/...a93847d2_b.jpg

It will use 5mm thick 6061 Alu. And the next set will have a integrated seatpost clamp at the respective part.


Thoughts, suggestions?
My best.

ultraman6970 09-23-10 11:52 PM

Sweet, how are u going to make the lugs? CNC?? casting? Wonder if a set of grafftek lugs will work fine in your built.

Malk4vi4n 09-24-10 04:54 AM


Originally Posted by ultraman6970 (Post 11516219)
Sweet, how are u going to make the lugs? CNC?? casting? Wonder if a set of grafftek lugs will work fine in your built.

I'm having them made for me, CNC I guess. I designed the lugs specially for the chosen bamboo width with a margin to make heavier or lighter bikes.
Have in mind that nobody sells lugs, tubes or any kind of frame parts here in Brasil.

ultraman6970 09-24-10 06:38 AM

I know, years ago the brazilian team bikes where made by a master builder in chile. There u have a niche :D

Malk4vi4n 11-10-10 12:00 PM

Hey guys!
Better late than never right?!

check this out!
theres more pics of her in my flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/malk4vi...7624407236902/

Mountain bike coming soon!

Technochicken 11-12-10 04:08 PM

Looks great! Are you still planing on making a fork out of the really wide diameter bamboo? I'm interested to see if that would work.


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