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Old 05-11-13, 02:16 PM
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Any framebuilding supply sources in Canada?

Anyone know of any framebuilding supplies based in Canada? Hoping to keep shipping/duty costs down when I get into it. TIA
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Old 05-12-13, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FixedFiend626 View Post
Anyone know of any framebuilding supplies based in Canada? Hoping to keep shipping/duty costs down when I get into it. TIA
I think Marinoni sells framebuilding supplies. You should be able to request a catalogue.
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Aircraft Spruce has a location in Brantford and they have straight gauge 4130 tubing... handy if you are close to Brantford at all.
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Originally Posted by clasher View Post
Aircraft Spruce has a location in Brantford and they have straight gauge 4130 tubing... handy if you are close to Brantford at all.
Hmmm.. was hoping more along the lines of cycling friendly supplier with lugs, dropouts etc. (particularly because I'm just getting into it). All the tubing is in imperial as well, makes it somewhat harder to match up with lugs. There has to be somewhere in Canada where builders order their stuff, no? Surely every Canadian doesn't order from the U.S...
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Originally Posted by FixedFiend626 View Post
All the tubing is in imperial as well, makes it somewhat harder to match up with lugs.
That makes no sense at all. All commonly available lugs are designed for imperial tube diameters.
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Think about the total number of builders in Canada and then consider whether it is worthwhile for an actual supplier to be based in Canada. I really doubt it.
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Sometime in Sept I will be traveling to the Muskoka area (for a vacation and short bike tour). I would be happy to stop along my route (crossing into Ont. from Grand Island, around Hamilton and North past Barrie through Huntsville) to hand off any supplies i could arrange for. If any one's interested contact me directly. Andy.
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Originally Posted by Mark Kelly View Post
That makes no sense at all. All commonly available lugs are designed for imperial tube diameters.
Whoops.. momentary brain fart. Sort of forgot about that small detail. 8)
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Originally Posted by FixedFiend626 View Post
Hmmm.. was hoping more along the lines of cycling friendly supplier with lugs, dropouts etc. (particularly because I'm just getting into it). All the tubing is in imperial as well, makes it somewhat harder to match up with lugs. There has to be somewhere in Canada where builders order their stuff, no? Surely every Canadian doesn't order from the U.S...
FF626; A decent digital caliper can be real handy in buillders shop, such as to check the ID of lugs. One can start with the $16 ones on Amazon and move up later when profitability is feeding back into the shop. Almost all the tubes on AC Spruce have their ID and OD listed which is a huge aid to fitments. I have found their posted measurements to generally be very close to actual measured numbers (Only exception was once when they actually sent the wrong tube which they quickly corrected with a replacment).

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Originally Posted by ksisler View Post
FF626; A decent digital caliper can be real handy in buillders shop, such as to check the ID of lugs. One can start with the $16 ones on Amazon and move up later when profitability is feeding back into the shop. Almost all the tubes on AC Spruce have their ID and OD listed which is a huge aid to fitments. I have found their posted measurements to generally be very close to actual measured numbers (Only exception was once when they actually sent the wrong tube which they quickly corrected with a replacment).

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Ok, maybe I'll try them out. At least it would save a lot in shipping/duties for the larger/heavier tubing packages and just order lugs, BB's etc from U.S.

I do have some digital calipers (cheapo's from eBay) that seem to be pretty accurate.
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There is no duty on tubing coming in from the US. Theoretically there could be if they paid actual attention to country of origin. But they never do. You will be assessed tax, but it is the same tax you would pay if you were buying the tubing, or other stuff in Canada. The dirty secret is that sometimes you will not get charged the tax. Sometimes being pretty much always on smaller shipments.

As far as postage is concerned, this is a real issue and it is getting worse rapidly. All one can say is that postage from the US is not invariably more expensive, due to volume I guess, than it is over similar distances within Canada. The trick is also to buy a sufficient volume to offset the costs, but obviously not so much that you need your own truck. An example recently was that living east of Toronto I ordered a machine from California, cheaper, far better known machine than one sold in Montreal, the shipping from montreal was 200 from Ontario California, it was 300. More than offset by the better deal I got. US suppliers are often more willing to negotiate, also.

. The other thing is to not be too much of a squeaky wheel. Before the US had it's financial troubles many US suppliers, often key ones, were closing down Canadian accounts. Canadians are low or no profit and a lot more trouble. An example being that long distance charges are double, and 1-800 calls are billed at cost back to the business they aren't free or monthly rate, but Canadians have more problems to sort out and are often chatty. Look at the long term, and try and support the remaining US suppliers who bother to deal with us. Obviously we want to deal in Canada if we can, but I am just saying that modern companies know their real costs and know Canadian customers are mostly break even at best. When some small thing goes wrong, I take the hit rather than badgering the US supplier because I know it will harm all of us in the long run.

I haven't found much stuff for framebuilding on ebay, the cheapest source these days is always ebay from china, often post and tax free.
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Old 05-16-13, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Canaboo View Post
I think Marinoni sells framebuilding supplies. You should be able to request a catalogue.
Success! Thanks for the tip, they got back to me with their new catalogue and it's (mostly) everything I'll need. I can order it to my local bike shop and they pay the shipping. Now all I have to do is acquire all the tools and learn how to do it! (Sort of the chicken before the egg mentality)
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