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Old 05-16-13, 11:18 AM
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Rob english bikes....pic

thought this might be of interest, not my cup of tea in general, but interesting

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor...allery-photo-6
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Old 05-16-13, 01:44 PM
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By far one of my favorite builders. Super nice guy too.
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'great idea!
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Love the folder. Are there more photos of it?
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That off-road recumbent prototype didn't quite work out, but he's the exceptionally rare mechanical-engineer-turned-framebuilder who would take on such a project.
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Love the folder. Are there more photos of it?
More pics here- http://www.englishcycles.com/customb...-road-concept/
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Old 05-19-13, 11:21 PM
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I always keep an eye on his site to see what he is working on. I like BFs way of building, and pragmatic solutions, and he has grabbed those ideas and run with them in other directions than what BF does, which is something I got onto, but just for the odd project.

As a large person, his 3/8", .023 stays scare the heck out of me.

I like his folder, and I like the ones he does with loop stays even better. It is a simple design where the stays are secured to the BB with bands that allow the whole rear to rotate forward. The bike doesn't break as far forward as say an S&S, so I am not sure larger models will be as stowable.
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See a lot to like with the folder.... pretty much the first folder I have seen that looks like a good regular road bike when unfolded and ready to ride. As Massive One noted, the skinny seat stays look forbodingly small, but it would seem that increasing those in size wouldn't negate its foldability functionality at all, so probably just something to work out with the builder. I wonder if anyone has already done that and has pix or story to share??

On the side; One can see that a soft-side canvas carry bag most folder sources sell could just be rolled up and tucked somewhere... but a hardshell? In general what does one do with the hardshell case when riding a folder one has traveled to some point with? Might be a missed opportunity to design a hard shell case that doubles as a pannier or something? Of course one would have to choose been pannier for contents or pannier for bike... Oh, as one can see that there is extra space in the case for bike shoes and riding kit, then maybe one would put their business suit, top hat and THE brief case in it mounted as a pannier when riding.... Of couse/2; on a nice looking road bike, as in this thread, one wouldn't want a pannier hanging on it anyway, so back to the delimna.

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Old 05-22-13, 03:02 PM
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Over in the touring forum, there was a thread on making a bike that has it's box become it's panniers, and there was a clever example that drew a lot of negative reaction as anything non-brand and out in left field tends to. Of course BF has the box on wheels as a trailer. I did see someone actually touring on that set-up, but it was pouring rain so I didn't see them under way. Seems like the wheels aren't large enough for a smooth ride.

Other options are various places that will store it for you, like a hotel you might use to get over jet lag and organized for departure, maybe they will store it. Or maybe there is a warm couches kind of place that you might not wish to bed with, but they would keep your bag. Some people manage to get bike shops to help, but I never really understood how. I want to show up at teh begining of a tour with zero stuff needed so what is their motivation? The problem is that if one lets anything go, then one runs the risk of not getting it back for whatever reason.

Before I met my wife she would just pack a small bag and go some place and buy a bike, usually something really awful. But one only suffers if one has been exposed to the better things. Her trip memories don't seem any the worse for it. These days one can buy a bike for less than some airlines charge to carry one, particularly if there are multiple flights. I just can't do it. Most touring is a lot easier the fewer attachments one has.
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Old 05-23-13, 08:43 AM
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Yep, planning a tour is easy, but planning how to really do a tour is a headache!

There is probably an App for that... [;/)
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