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Old 10-05-14, 04:35 PM
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Braze on Water bottle inserts and reinforcements. Where to buy?

Braze on Water bottle inserts and reinforcements. Where to buy?

Hey Guys,

Just what the title says, I need some Braze on Water bottle mount inserts and reinforcements. I checked with NOVA supplies and can't see myself paying $17.00 Shipping for Inserts and reinforcements.
Are there other suppliers?

Thanks,
Mike
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Old 10-05-14, 06:16 PM
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Pacenti/bikelugs.com or henry james
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Old 10-05-14, 08:25 PM
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Ordered them From Nova. thanks again guys.
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our suppliers are all small family businesses. I know Henry James will throw something like this in a padded envelope to save you money if you call. I assume Nova will do the same if you call. Joe Bringheli is a good source too.
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For seventeen bucks you could buy the drill press on craigslist, add a tap, and you can make your own. Home made ones are better, and less trouble. Of course if you want 100...
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Riv Nuts work Fine, too ..
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I don't think rivnuts are a good idea for anything. And most of us don't do that great of a job at hand tapping so I don't think that I would bother with that either. Granted, if someone with experience is building a frame they know it's going to last for decades, whereas some people that post in here don't have that sort of confidence. But I think that cutting corners on something like a water bottle boss is false economy.
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Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
I don't think rivnuts are a good idea for anything. And most of us don't do that great of a job at hand tapping so I don't think that I would bother with that either. Granted, if someone with experience is building a frame they know it's going to last for decades, whereas some people that post in here don't have that sort of confidence. But I think that cutting corners on something like a water bottle boss is false economy.
I agree completely. It's timely that this morning my first repair was replacing a RivNut. I had to bring in one from home. We tried to reset the old boss a few months ago (a few months after the bike was bought new) but it continued to spin. I used my specific setting tool (the pop rivet plier type) that I've had for many years. But with these repairs I also apply epoxy before setting the new one.

I find it disappointing on very expensive frames (Ti or Carbon) to see RivNuts used. Or cheap bikes for that matter. Andy.
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Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
I don't think rivnuts are a good idea for anything. And most of us don't do that great of a job at hand tapping so I don't think that I would bother with that either. Granted, if someone with experience is building a frame they know it's going to last for decades, whereas some people that post in here don't have that sort of confidence. But I think that cutting corners on something like a water bottle boss is false economy.
Not sure what you are referring to, but if one had a drill press, why would one hand tap? Most of the frame parts I have seen have very low tolerance threaded holes in them, which is probably appropriate to the intended use, on the same basis that poorly aligned frames are appropriate. There is just no love when one feels the screws go home. Components can be pretty nice though.
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Not sure what you are referring to, but if one had a drill press, why would one hand tap? Most of the frame parts I have seen have very low tolerance threaded holes in them, which is probably appropriate to the intended use, on the same basis that poorly aligned frames are appropriate. There is just no love when one feels the screws go home. Components can be pretty nice though.
I don't know what kind of drill press you have, but I'm pretty sure mine would break a tap in short order. It seems ridiculous to suggest spending the time necessary to turn the part in a lathe(one without a shoulder is basically useless) and then tap the threads when I can buy it from Paragon for $2.83.
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I make a lot of the braze on fittings for my bikes. Rack mounts, cable guides and stops/hangers, chain pegs. But if I can canabilize a pre made part to get threads I will. between having one less step for me to do and one less chance to break a tap, why not? Here's a shot of a rack mount, in mid process, that I wanted to have a SS face on. So I used a SS water bottle boss as the threaded insert then cobbeb up the rest. Andy.
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Kind of OT since topic was just a shopping source question ..

OK if you are brazing everything on before painting , but Riv-nuts are the Go To in Aluminum* and you want to ad some and not repaint..

*My 7005 Koga Miyata WTR has a Dozen + Riv nuts, ( bike SRP in 2004 was $3600)

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