Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Painting a frame?

Old 05-18-15, 01:24 PM
  #1  
Jixr
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 416
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 99 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Painting a frame?

Hey everyone.

I recently picked up a hipster special ( mid tier fixie but the PO put some good parts on it )

It needed quite a bit of work, but i finally got it back to shape, and it rides fantasically, the looks on the other hand ( half of the hipster appeal ) is not great. The frame and forks are pretty scared up, no major rust, but several nicks, dings, and scrapes.

I'm trying to decide if it would be worth painting it with spray paint.
My technique is fine, and I can get glass smooth finish, but I just don't know how the durability of spray paint would be on a bike frame.

Any ideas?
Jixr is offline  
Old 05-18-15, 01:29 PM
  #2  
fietsbob
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Posts: 43,599

Bikes: 8

Mentioned: 197 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7607 Post(s)
Liked 1,322 Times in 832 Posts
i cannot answer Worth It questions .. for you , figure that out for yourself..

I'll just say strip it down to a bare frame and fork , the most important and time consuming part of a paint job is the Surface Preparation.
fietsbob is offline  
Old 05-18-15, 01:46 PM
  #3  
obed7
Senior Member
 
obed7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Porter, Texas
Posts: 4,125

Bikes: Trek Domane 5.2, Ridley Xfire, Giant Propel, KHS AeroComp

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1648 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I have painted a couple recently and am currently working on the 3rd.
Spray paint when done right can make a beautiful finish... look deep and shine.
The major time was in stripping and prep...When gloss paint and gloss clear coat are used after a good primer, a bit of wet sanding and polishing compound makes it really pop.
Is it worth it, that is something only you can decide.
obed7 is offline  
Old 05-18-15, 02:04 PM
  #4  
Jixr
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 416
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 99 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
my biggest worry is the durability, Obviously professional paint/powder coating would be best, but i have a budget on it, and I don't want the paint to start flaking and chipping off. Most of my spray painting experience is with plastics and fiberglass, but nothing that needs to stand up to the durability of being transported on bike racks and beat up on like a city bike can take.

but its a budget fixer-upper that I want to make look nice, it rides great, but its been beat up quite a bit. but sometimes its best to let things sit as-is.

Last edited by Jixr; 05-18-15 at 02:10 PM.
Jixr is offline  
Old 05-18-15, 03:07 PM
  #5  
HauntedMyst
Spandex free since 1963!
 
HauntedMyst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 400

Bikes: Cannondale Road Warrior 900, Surly Big Dummy, Electra Townie

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
If prepped properly, and you use thin coats and let them dry properly, it will last just fine. In the years before powder coating all bikes were painted. A top clear coat will help protect the underlying finishes.


Around here, you can get a frame powder coated for around $100 to $150 so for so little, you may want to do it since the price is reasonable.
HauntedMyst is offline  
Old 05-18-15, 03:12 PM
  #6  
obed7
Senior Member
 
obed7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Porter, Texas
Posts: 4,125

Bikes: Trek Domane 5.2, Ridley Xfire, Giant Propel, KHS AeroComp

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1648 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Spray paint does not fully cure for quite some time....I usually wait about a week after painting before I wet sand and polish... but it actually takes up to 2 months to cure 100%... once fully cured it is actually quite durable...bikes are really perfect for spray paint, no large surfaces...
The one I am painting now, I am actually going to brush paint just to see how that comes out... i have seen some beautiful brush finishes. oh, and minor scratches can be "polished" out.
obed7 is offline  
Old 05-18-15, 04:56 PM
  #7  
matchstick
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: NW Indiana
Posts: 50

Bikes: '14 Cannondale Synapse 6 Tiagra C || '09 Schwinn Madison Fixed Gear

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Look into plastidip. Its removable if you want to change the color. Its durable enough to use on a car. And its just freaking cool. Thinking about trying a few different color combos on my bike that I flipped a while back.
matchstick is offline  
Old 05-18-15, 07:21 PM
  #8  
BugDude
Senior Member
 
BugDude's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Gulf Coast of Florida
Posts: 113

Bikes: 2015 Giant Sedona DX Hybrid

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Try using a ceramic engine enamel, or an automotive frame paint. Or prep everything yourself and find a local car guy to spray an automotive finish on it.

There's also custom gun finish products like ceracote.
BugDude is offline  
Old 05-18-15, 08:21 PM
  #9  
AlmostTrick
Tortoise Wins by a Hare!
 
AlmostTrick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Looney Tunes, IL
Posts: 7,397

Bikes: Wabi Special FG, Raleigh Roper, Nashbar AL-1, Miyata One Hundred, '70 Schwinn Lemonator and More!!

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1546 Post(s)
Liked 919 Times in 496 Posts
It won't be as durable as a factory finish, but if done properly it isn't going to just flake off on it's own either. It really depends how rough you are with the bike as to how long until it looks nasty again.

Some people are more careless with their bikes than others, which is why your factory finish looks the way it does now.
AlmostTrick is offline  
Old 05-19-15, 08:25 PM
  #10  
big chainring 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Wilmette, IL
Posts: 7,032
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 659 Post(s)
Liked 402 Times in 210 Posts
Brush painting is a good alternative. It's really simple. Can be done in your kitchen if you wanted to. And great durability. I use a waterborne alkyd gloss paint. Dries overnight. It can be sanded and polished out just like oil based gloss paint.

I paint right over the old finish. Just a quick sanding and wipe down with a solvent. I have had very good results.
big chainring is offline  
Old 05-19-15, 08:35 PM
  #11  
martianone
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Northern VT
Posts: 2,161

Bikes: recumbent & upright

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 66 Post(s)
Liked 16 Times in 13 Posts
Echo importance of surface preparation. Have used Rustoluem red primer on a couple bikes, brush or rattlecan, it has lasted nicely and has a unique Ulitarian look- certainly not an artistic quality paint job, nor powder coating - functional. Several days curing time is needed before use.

Last edited by martianone; 05-19-15 at 08:38 PM.
martianone is offline  
Old 05-20-15, 05:41 AM
  #12  
Ayers
Senior Member
 
Ayers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: North Texas
Posts: 137

Bikes: Centurion Ironman - Cannondale Six13 - Cannondale CAAD4

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I am a powdercoater so you can guess my leaning on the matter.

But really, think about it, if you buy two cans of spray paint, and a can or two of spray primer, you're gonna exceed 20 dollars just for paint products. Now buy a roll of masking tape, you're gonna need that. Something to clean the parts prior to painting...plus a bunch of sandpaper and sanding labor.

Or, you can drop it off at the powdercoat shop and get it chemically stripped to bare metal, media blasted, cleaned, masked, and powdercoated for probably 75 bucks if you're a nice guy when you came in the shop. Figure another 25 bucks for the fork maybe.



This guy dropped me off a crappy frame. Twenty four hours later he got this back. I charged him 75 bucks because he liked a red color that I was already shooting for another job anyway. And he was a cool dude and was excited about his bike build. For his money he got a complete bare metal prep job and a finish that far exceeds others in durability. I get being on a budget but sometimes it's throwing good money away to cut corners when better results aren't much more saving up of money.

Last edited by Ayers; 05-20-15 at 07:16 AM.
Ayers is offline  
Old 05-20-15, 06:18 AM
  #13  
obed7
Senior Member
 
obed7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Porter, Texas
Posts: 4,125

Bikes: Trek Domane 5.2, Ridley Xfire, Giant Propel, KHS AeroComp

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1648 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I agree if you have a good powder coater in your area, that is probably the fastest, easiest way to go.
There are several good guys in the Houston area and the cost averages about $115 for frame and fork, to media blast and powder coat...

When I figure my cost to spray paint...
I can primer, 1 can color, 1 can clear coat...
stripper, sand paper, mineral spirits...misc...
it costs me about $20 bucks per frame (the container of stripper and mineral spirits, package of sandpaper, polishing compound will do several frames)
and depending on the bike I spend between 15 and 20 hours working on each bike from starting strip down to being able to ride it again. (that 20 hours is spread out over 10 to 14 days.
obed7 is offline  
Old 05-24-15, 06:59 AM
  #14  
MrB67
Member
 
MrB67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: San Antonio TX
Posts: 40

Bikes: 2014 Cinelli Experience, 1995 Carrera Podium, 1984 Kuwahara Pulsar, 1982 Murray MTN. Bike

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Jixr: your concern about durability is understandable. But if you are going to paint it yourself... make sure you finish with a clear-coat. I would say 2 coats minimum.
If you decide to go the powder-coat way then you will not have to worry about chipping as the paint is baked onto the frame.
But if you are going to spray yourself, you need to finish the job with a clear-coat.
I'm getting ready to paint a frame I'm working on now. Just ordered my paint, and will start on stripping the frame in about a week. However I'm using automotive paint from House Of Kolor. The process involves mixing paint with hardeners, which makes the paint harder than spray can paint. A bunch of other factors go into this type of job, and it's much more expensive. But the bottom line: you spray it, you clear-coat it.
A good coat of car wax every now and then will also help keep your paint job looking great and give it a little extra protection.
MrB67 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
bici_mania
Classic & Vintage
5
06-13-15 06:54 AM
flootz
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
6
08-09-12 04:34 PM
derekemery
Bicycle Mechanics
23
07-24-12 10:29 PM
himespau
Classic & Vintage
21
05-21-12 06:25 AM
thebigkick
Bicycle Mechanics
30
03-28-11 07:49 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.