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bikemig 07-23-15 12:26 PM

Best Patch Kit?
 
So who makes the "best" tire patch kit? I just finished one of those rides where I flatted, mucked up my spare tube, and then had a heck of a time getting a rema tip top patch to work on the tube. It took me two tries and the second one gave me a nice slow leak I could use to ride home with, lol. I swore by rema patches for many years but after this ride, I think I'm swearing at them, :crash:

This "review" from cycling weekly doesn't have rema patches rated too highly either:

7 of the Best Puncture Repair Kits

Marcus_Ti 07-23-15 12:35 PM

Funny thing they rate the Park glueless patch kit an 8...I wouldn't give it a 2. Seriously those glueless patches are crap. Especially for roadie usage.

imi 07-23-15 12:44 PM

Best Patch Kit?
 
Tip Top has always worked fine for me

bmthom.gis 07-23-15 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti (Post 18006978)
Funny thing they rate the Park glueless patch kit an 8...I wouldn't give it a 2. Seriously those glueless patches are crap. Especially for roadie usage.

Funny as rather like those patches. Never had to use them on a 23 mm tube yet, but worked fine on 32 mm. I keep it in with my mountain bike though, and carry a spare tube with me on my road bikes. If I get flatted again, I am just calling the wife to pick me up.

CliffordK 07-23-15 01:19 PM

I've meant to try the Park glueless...

I have tried the ubiquitous Slime Skabs... And they are complete trash... worth a MINUS-TEN :eek: rating. They don't stick to the tires or hold air. Anyway, these junky patches have left me less than excited about the whole glueless concept.

My biggest complaint about glue type patches is the risk of needing them and discovering the long forgotten tube of glue is dry (or leaked).

I haven't found a big difference between one type of glue type patches and another (with the tapered edges).

I do like to add a razor blade to my patch kits to help trim the seam that is inevitably in the wrong spot. A pen would be nice.

I'd like to see a bit more thorough of a test report. All I read is an evaluation of what is in the box, not how they actually perform. They need to puncture a tube 50 times, then patch it up using the various brands of patches. Then go out and ride. Which ones hold up? Which ones don't?

Next try re-patching, or perhaps a couple of overlapping patches.

When my nephew's bike came back this summer.. it had 3 Skabs over a single hole... which didn't hold air. I managed to peel those 3 patches off, and put on a single glue-type patch. Then found a snake-bite pinch flat elsewhere in the tube. Covered it with one more patch (1 patch for the big hole, 1 patch for the double snakebite). And it all held. The tube would have been trash, but I didn't have any 24" 520 spares with me :mad:

Little Darwin 07-23-15 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by bikemig (Post 18006929)
This "review" from cycling weekly doesn't have rema patches rated too highly either:

7 of the Best Puncture Repair Kits

But if you look at the text of that review, their only complaint was that it was too expensive...

I looked through a couple of the specific products to find out why they rated like they did, and it seemed like a weak reviewing methodology to me.

GP 07-23-15 02:13 PM

I use whatever they have at the bike shop - glue for my touring bike and home, glueless for my road. IMO the key isn't the patches but the prep.

bikemig 07-23-15 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Little Darwin (Post 18007191)
But if you look at the text of that review, their only complaint was that it was too expensive...

I looked through a couple of the specific products to find out why they rated like they did, and it seemed like a weak reviewing methodology to me.

I'm skeptical of the testing methodology as well. That's why I asked the question. My testing "methodology" is to rely on the collective wisdom of the list . . . .

There's usually not much agreement on anything here but it's a good way to weed out the losers and get some ideas of the potential winners. Plus pretty much everyone has had to deal with patches sooner or later.

Black wallnut 07-23-15 03:06 PM

I have had great results with Bell patch kits that I buy at a discount dept. store for $1.39 a pack. The "glue" goes farther than the number of patches in the kit. I also use Rema patches with the glue. Lately I buy the cheap kit and just use the Rema patches. $1.39 once a year is cheap enough. It really is the prep and method of 'stitching' the patch on that gives me dependable results.

10speedBill 07-23-15 08:22 PM

I've never bought a flat patch kit. They come free at most event rids, and I pick up on each time. But I agree that the glue less ones are no good. Use the glue type, clean the tube, rough it up with the abrasive, put the glue over the area the pathc will cover, and most importantly - let it dry before you put the patch on. If you don't, the patch won't hold.

fietsbob 07-24-15 07:03 AM

packaging swayed their British reviewer..

Phlorida 07-24-15 07:19 AM

Crazy that there is no evidence in the article that they actually attempted to patch a tire with any of them. I noted the crayon in the first picture. That seems like a good idea but is a disaster in hot weather. I needed a patch once and the crayon in the patch kit had melted and rendered all of the patches useless.

Altair 4 07-24-15 07:43 AM

I've used REI's in-house brand kit (Novara, with the tube of glue) a few times with good results. I have also used Planet Bike's scab patches that came with their Lunar Levers kit, also with good results. Honestly, I've seen no difference in longevity or the ability to hold tire pressure between the two methods. All used on 700x35 tubes usually inflated o about 80 PSI.

bruce19 07-24-15 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti (Post 18006978)
Funny thing they rate the Park glueless patch kit an 8...I wouldn't give it a 2. Seriously those glueless patches are crap. Especially for roadie usage.

I use the Park glueless and it works every time for me.

SHBR 07-24-15 08:27 AM

In my experience, glueless patches are a total waste of resources, designed at best for temporary use.
It should be impossible to remove a properly glued on patch.

trailangel 07-24-15 09:56 AM

Answer to the Question....BEST PATCH KIT: REMA TIP TOP

fietsbob 07-24-15 10:07 AM

Initiative.. add things to a Kit. I like a different Abrasive Carborundum on cloth, rather than the sand paper..

Clem von Jones 07-24-15 10:36 AM

The smaller Rema patches from Germany seem to be better quality. Yesterday I patched a 'snakebite' where each hole was near the edge of a small Rema patch and so far it hasn't leaked. The plastic backer also seems to peel off easily without taking off the patch with it.

long john 07-24-15 10:52 AM

Any one ever use these [h=1]Rustines Patch Kit[/h]velo orang e has them?
i do like tip top with a small patch of plumber wrap to prep the tube.

Bug Shield 07-24-15 06:01 PM

Rema Tip Top. It's not the best patch kit, it's the only patch kit.

CliffordK 07-24-15 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Clem von Jones (Post 18009808)
The smaller Rema patches from Germany seem to be better quality. Yesterday I patched a 'snakebite' where each hole was near the edge of a small Rema patch and so far it hasn't leaked. The plastic backer also seems to peel off easily without taking off the patch with it.

Apparently you don't need to take the plastic off.

TheManShow 07-24-15 06:08 PM

I have used Rema 20 year plus. But Mr. Tuffy have saved me from lots of flats. JMHO

CliffordK 07-24-15 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 18009041)
packaging swayed their British reviewer..

I wonder how many corporate leaders in both manufacturing, and retail go for packaging rather than actually testing the product in the field.

I'm still puzzled why the slime skabs are absolutely everywhere http://viber.tsymbal.su/data/emoticons/%28sick%29.png

FRANK CANNON 07-24-15 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti (Post 18006978)
Funny thing they rate the Park glueless patch kit an 8...I wouldn't give it a 2. Seriously those glueless patches are crap. Especially for roadie usage.

Glueless patches DO NOT WORK.

Consider yourself lucky if it gets you home.

I'll show you a real man's patch kit. Non filtered.:D

http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/...psujep7xvd.jpg

Duo 07-25-15 06:43 AM

I like using glue patches as they have the best chance of working...and working for years after the repair. Any brand of glue patch should work, I just happen to pick up the big box of Slime glue patches at Harbor Freight for cheap. Tons of patches and two bottles of glue.


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