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Alvaro1963 07-31-15 05:47 PM

Wind direction question
 
If a south wind is tailwind, a north wind will be headwind, and east wind and west wind will be side winds. What about the rest of the angles? When does a tailwind becomes a side wind? My intuition says that WSW and ESE wind would be neutral and the 120 degrees inside those 2 points will be different degrees of tailwind.

I guess there is a absolutely rational answer based in physics rather than what I experience when I ride.

Doctor Morbius 07-31-15 05:51 PM

That's called the breaking wind.

geehue 07-31-15 05:55 PM

I am very curious to know which direction this thread is going to take ...

geehue 07-31-15 05:56 PM

Is a wind that overtakes you called the passing wind?

Doctor Morbius 07-31-15 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by geehue (Post 18032728)
Is a wind that overtakes you called the passing wind?

And shouldn't a passing wind pass on the left whilst announcing such?

ltxi 07-31-15 06:16 PM

Head, tail, side, quartering...fine distinctions left to the user.

andr0id 07-31-15 06:59 PM

Gee, if there were only some type of math for figuring out directional forces and how they relate to each other.

rm -rf 07-31-15 07:09 PM

It depends on your speed, the wind speed, and wind angle. A pure 90 degree side wind looks like 45 degrees from the front if the wind is 20 mph and the bike is 20 mph.

This HED yaw calculator is fun to play with. (Scroll down to the Apparent Wind Calculator link.)

You know, of course, that riders speed up until a tailwind becomes a headwind.

dieselgoat 07-31-15 07:18 PM

Tail wind? Never heard of it.

Trueblood 07-31-15 07:54 PM

What is the formula for the amount of energy it takes to break wind?

Is there a preferred windbreaker for biking?

Machka 07-31-15 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by geehue (Post 18032728)
Is a wind that overtakes you called the passing wind?

If someone is passing wind, I prefer that they remain behind me.

one4smoke 07-31-15 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by dieselgoat (Post 18032955)
Tail wind? Never heard of it.

Ha! Me neither. I think I've only ever experienced headwinds. :roflmao2:

BlazingPedals 07-31-15 08:16 PM

I guess if you're not riding like the wind, you're passing it.

Alvaro1963 07-31-15 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by rm -rf (Post 18032933)
It depends on your speed, the wind speed, and wind angle. A pure 90 degree side wind looks like 45 degrees from the front if the wind is 20 mph and the bike is 20 mph.

This HED yaw calculator is fun to play with. (Scroll down to the Apparent Wind Calculator link.)

You know, of course, that riders speed up until a tailwind becomes a headwind.

Thanks, I'm going to check that.

Jim from Boston 08-01-15 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by andr0id (Post 18032908)
Gee, if there were only some type of math for figuring out directional forces and how they relate to each other.

It's about the vector, Victor.

Wheever 08-01-15 08:48 AM

Excuse me: TAILWINDS ARE A MYTH.

imi 08-01-15 10:27 AM

Wind direction question
 
^^^ blasphemy you heathen windbag!

fietsbob 08-01-15 10:38 AM

Look at those weather maps on TV ..

in the Northern Hemisphere, a High pressure cell circulates CW, a Low Pressure Cell Rotates CCW..

& hot air rises and is less dense , so Its replaced by cooler air , flowing to the hotter area around the topography.

TheLibrarian 08-01-15 10:50 AM

a tailwind becomes predominantly a side wind 45 degrees away from south as you state it. Then you still get some tailwind but most of it is pushing on your side. You should get 180 degrees of some tailwind not accounting for forward resistance.

imi 08-01-15 01:55 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiviKbxP9xM

Squashednuts 08-01-15 08:35 PM

I recently experienced an ill wind & it blew me no good

Homebrew01 08-02-15 05:48 PM

This is a side wind, around 40 seconds in:


Nermal 08-02-15 06:27 PM

Yep! That was a side wind, alright.

jfowler85 08-03-15 10:17 AM

Glad all this blew over.

MarkND 08-04-15 11:09 AM

The answer my friend, is blowin' in the wind.


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