Cutting a cable lock and some general security questions
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Cutting a cable lock and some general security questions
Hey everyone, I own a Raleigh Misceo 2.0 and when I purchased it I had never planned to leave it outside unattended. I'll be going to college in a month though and the parking fee's are so ridiculous that I'm going to try to ride most days. Now I'm stuck with the task of securing it. I have the small Kryptonite Evolution chain for the rear wheel/frame and I purchased a cable lock (this one) to secure my front tire to my main lock. It does that just fine but obviously this thing is way too big, my local MEC doesn't even stock the smaller one. Can I just cut this in half and loop the ends to make 2 of them, and if so what is the best way to do this? I like the thickness of it because even if they are still easy to cut it at least defers attempts at it from less willing thieves.
Additionally, in regards to all the quick release parts of my bike, is a product like Pinheads really worth the price? I've watched youtube videos of people undoing those with a gator socket pretty easily. Maybe a better option is security type bolts from a hardware store?
Additionally, in regards to all the quick release parts of my bike, is a product like Pinheads really worth the price? I've watched youtube videos of people undoing those with a gator socket pretty easily. Maybe a better option is security type bolts from a hardware store?
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This.
The only way to be 95% certain you bike will be in your possession when you wake up, is for it to be locked indoors. Any bike locked outside has a sign on it saying "I'm free steal me with your bolt cutters".
Any cable you can cut with bolt cutters, someone else can cut just as easily or more easily.
The only way to be 95% certain you bike will be in your possession when you wake up, is for it to be locked indoors. Any bike locked outside has a sign on it saying "I'm free steal me with your bolt cutters".
Any cable you can cut with bolt cutters, someone else can cut just as easily or more easily.
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How to lock your bicycle:
https://youtu.be/ryY-qMFLcfo
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Hey everyone, I own a Raleigh Misceo 2.0 and when I purchased it I had never planned to leave it outside unattended. I'll be going to college in a month though and the parking fee's are so ridiculous that I'm going to try to ride most days. Now I'm stuck with the task of securing it. I have the small Kryptonite Evolution chain for the rear wheel/frame and I purchased a cable lock (this one) to secure my front tire to my main lock. It does that just fine but obviously this thing is way too big, my local MEC doesn't even stock the smaller one. Can I just cut this in half and loop the ends to make 2 of them, and if so what is the best way to do this? I like the thickness of it because even if they are still easy to cut it at least defers attempts at it from less willing thieves.
Additionally, in regards to all the quick release parts of my bike, is a product like Pinheads really worth the price? I've watched youtube videos of people undoing those with a gator socket pretty easily. Maybe a better option is security type bolts from a hardware store?
Additionally, in regards to all the quick release parts of my bike, is a product like Pinheads really worth the price? I've watched youtube videos of people undoing those with a gator socket pretty easily. Maybe a better option is security type bolts from a hardware store?
The bike really needs to be inside at night.
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The cable is just for the front tire. I should've clarified that I'm not living on campus, the college is about a 30min walk from me. The bike stays inside otherwise. The piece of metal they use on cable locks to clamp the loop, is there a name for those? Can you buy it from a hardware store?
Edit: Upon further research there is also a fenced in bike compound with camera's at the college that you can use for the year for $5
Edit: Upon further research there is also a fenced in bike compound with camera's at the college that you can use for the year for $5
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One version of that piece of metal is a "Nicopress". Common in sailboat rigging though I think they started with telephone companies. Look for a boatyard that deals with sailboats. Call ahead to make sure they have the fitting for your wire size. If they have the fitting, they will also have the tool (which you will pay them to use, they won't lend or rent it out).
You could also try a full service hardware store. I haven't tries that option. Since I used to sail and have always lived close to saltwater, finding sailmakers has never been hard. Plus I have a small Nicopress tool. (Used to own a boat.)
You could also try a full service hardware store. I haven't tries that option. Since I used to sail and have always lived close to saltwater, finding sailmakers has never been hard. Plus I have a small Nicopress tool. (Used to own a boat.)
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Thank you, you've pointed me in the right direction. I guess it's just called an aluminum swage sleeve.
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A Defence in Depth is best for YOUR NEW BIKE on Campus
O.P.
I would recommend 'networking' with Engineering Course Students and/or Faculty to find out if the on Campus 'Fab Center' (Fabrication Center/aka Metal shop or Machine shop) has the tools and knowledge to 'REWORK' your cable (assuming Your campus has Materials Engineering/Science courses available).
DON'T be 'Too Good'/'Proud' to get to know the 'Campus Maintenance'/'Facility's Maintenance' staff (They always have a 'Shop Area' available to facilitate/expedite repairs).
Maintenance may be your ONLY, on campus, option should you be attending an (SHUDDERS... JK, JK) ARTS, BUSINESS, or LEGAL Campus.
I'M NOT feeling comfortable TRUSTING the SECURITY OF such a THIN CHAIN as your "small Evo" to protect a fairly new, approx $400 - $500 hybrid in the type of threat environment that is typical of the Large Metro Campus. My experience has been that supposedly "secure" communal bike facilities are remarkably POROUS.
I would use the small Evo CHAIN to secure front DISC BRAKE wheel and as a Secondary Anchoring Lock.
I would MOST STRONGLY urge you to seriously consider UPGRADING to a 'BEEFY' U-Lock as Primary Anchor Lock (absolute minimum) "Standard Size" 'Big 'K' Evolution "Series 4" (4 x 9 inch x *14mm* ). 'Std.size' 'O.G.' Pitbull (4.5 x 9 inch x *14mm* ). They both weigh approx. 3.5 lbs. (about 8 ounces less than a 2 liter/half gallon Cola/Milk).
At the SAME weight (3.5 lbs.) but a BIG STEP UP in Price, Quality, PROTECTION (Std. Size 'Big 'K' New York / Std. Size 'O.G.' "Brute" level protection, both of these bad-boys 'weigh in' at approx. 4 lbs.) is the ABUS Granit X-Plus 540 (230mm length shackle) - Checked U.S. Amazon $150... OUCH!! Price has gone up since I purchased the previous generation Granit X-Plus 54.
I would recommend 'networking' with Engineering Course Students and/or Faculty to find out if the on Campus 'Fab Center' (Fabrication Center/aka Metal shop or Machine shop) has the tools and knowledge to 'REWORK' your cable (assuming Your campus has Materials Engineering/Science courses available).
DON'T be 'Too Good'/'Proud' to get to know the 'Campus Maintenance'/'Facility's Maintenance' staff (They always have a 'Shop Area' available to facilitate/expedite repairs).
Maintenance may be your ONLY, on campus, option should you be attending an (SHUDDERS... JK, JK) ARTS, BUSINESS, or LEGAL Campus.
I'M NOT feeling comfortable TRUSTING the SECURITY OF such a THIN CHAIN as your "small Evo" to protect a fairly new, approx $400 - $500 hybrid in the type of threat environment that is typical of the Large Metro Campus. My experience has been that supposedly "secure" communal bike facilities are remarkably POROUS.
I would use the small Evo CHAIN to secure front DISC BRAKE wheel and as a Secondary Anchoring Lock.
I would MOST STRONGLY urge you to seriously consider UPGRADING to a 'BEEFY' U-Lock as Primary Anchor Lock (absolute minimum) "Standard Size" 'Big 'K' Evolution "Series 4" (4 x 9 inch x *14mm* ). 'Std.size' 'O.G.' Pitbull (4.5 x 9 inch x *14mm* ). They both weigh approx. 3.5 lbs. (about 8 ounces less than a 2 liter/half gallon Cola/Milk).
At the SAME weight (3.5 lbs.) but a BIG STEP UP in Price, Quality, PROTECTION (Std. Size 'Big 'K' New York / Std. Size 'O.G.' "Brute" level protection, both of these bad-boys 'weigh in' at approx. 4 lbs.) is the ABUS Granit X-Plus 540 (230mm length shackle) - Checked U.S. Amazon $150... OUCH!! Price has gone up since I purchased the previous generation Granit X-Plus 54.
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O.P.
I would recommend 'networking' with Engineering Course Students and/or Faculty to find out if the on Campus 'Fab Center' (Fabrication Center/aka Metal shop or Machine shop) has the tools and knowledge to 'REWORK' your cable (assuming Your campus has Materials Engineering/Science courses available).
DON'T be 'Too Good'/'Proud' to get to know the 'Campus Maintenance'/'Facility's Maintenance' staff (They always have a 'Shop Area' available to facilitate/expedite repairs).
Maintenance may be your ONLY, on campus, option should you be attending an (SHUDDERS... JK, JK) ARTS, BUSINESS, or LEGAL Campus.
I'M NOT feeling comfortable TRUSTING the SECURITY OF such a THIN CHAIN as your "small Evo" to protect a fairly new, approx $400 - $500 hybrid in the type of threat environment that is typical of the Large Metro Campus. My experience has been that supposedly "secure" communal bike facilities are remarkably POROUS.
I would use the small Evo CHAIN to secure front DISC BRAKE wheel and as a Secondary Anchoring Lock.
I would MOST STRONGLY urge you to seriously consider UPGRADING to a 'BEEFY' U-Lock as Primary Anchor Lock (absolute minimum) "Standard Size" 'Big 'K' Evolution "Series 4" (4 x 9 inch x *14mm* ). 'Std.size' 'O.G.' Pitbull (4.5 x 9 inch x *14mm* ). They both weigh approx. 3.5 lbs. (about 8 ounces less than a 2 liter/half gallon Cola/Milk).
At the SAME weight (3.5 lbs.) but a BIG STEP UP in Price, Quality, PROTECTION (Std. Size 'Big 'K' New York / Std. Size 'O.G.' "Brute" level protection, both of these bad-boys 'weigh in' at approx. 4 lbs.) is the ABUS Granit X-Plus 540 (230mm length shackle) - Checked U.S. Amazon $150... OUCH!! Price has gone up since I purchased the previous generation Granit X-Plus 54.
I would recommend 'networking' with Engineering Course Students and/or Faculty to find out if the on Campus 'Fab Center' (Fabrication Center/aka Metal shop or Machine shop) has the tools and knowledge to 'REWORK' your cable (assuming Your campus has Materials Engineering/Science courses available).
DON'T be 'Too Good'/'Proud' to get to know the 'Campus Maintenance'/'Facility's Maintenance' staff (They always have a 'Shop Area' available to facilitate/expedite repairs).
Maintenance may be your ONLY, on campus, option should you be attending an (SHUDDERS... JK, JK) ARTS, BUSINESS, or LEGAL Campus.
I'M NOT feeling comfortable TRUSTING the SECURITY OF such a THIN CHAIN as your "small Evo" to protect a fairly new, approx $400 - $500 hybrid in the type of threat environment that is typical of the Large Metro Campus. My experience has been that supposedly "secure" communal bike facilities are remarkably POROUS.
I would use the small Evo CHAIN to secure front DISC BRAKE wheel and as a Secondary Anchoring Lock.
I would MOST STRONGLY urge you to seriously consider UPGRADING to a 'BEEFY' U-Lock as Primary Anchor Lock (absolute minimum) "Standard Size" 'Big 'K' Evolution "Series 4" (4 x 9 inch x *14mm* ). 'Std.size' 'O.G.' Pitbull (4.5 x 9 inch x *14mm* ). They both weigh approx. 3.5 lbs. (about 8 ounces less than a 2 liter/half gallon Cola/Milk).
At the SAME weight (3.5 lbs.) but a BIG STEP UP in Price, Quality, PROTECTION (Std. Size 'Big 'K' New York / Std. Size 'O.G.' "Brute" level protection, both of these bad-boys 'weigh in' at approx. 4 lbs.) is the ABUS Granit X-Plus 540 (230mm length shackle) - Checked U.S. Amazon $150... OUCH!! Price has gone up since I purchased the previous generation Granit X-Plus 54.
PS My pops is maintenance, he has everything I need here, he's just on vacation right now lol.
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One version of that piece of metal is a "Nicopress". Common in sailboat rigging though I think they started with telephone companies. Look for a boatyard that deals with sailboats. Call ahead to make sure they have the fitting for your wire size. If they have the fitting, they will also have the tool (which you will pay them to use, they won't lend or rent it out).
You could also try a full service hardware store. I haven't tries that option. Since I used to sail and have always lived close to saltwater, finding sailmakers has never been hard. Plus I have a small Nicopress tool. (Used to own a boat.)
You could also try a full service hardware store. I haven't tries that option. Since I used to sail and have always lived close to saltwater, finding sailmakers has never been hard. Plus I have a small Nicopress tool. (Used to own a boat.)
That being said, all you need is a pair of bolt cutters, and a good pair of bicepts, and it comes apart like butter....which is how you cut steel rope in the first place, just need good cutting blades (ours at work tend to be constantly chipped and worn).