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Old 10-09-15, 11:49 AM
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Apparently I don't own a real bike

Actual conversation with an LBS guy this morning, while asking about various accessories, etc:

LBS: What bike are you currently riding?
Me: A Jamis Coda Sport.
LBS: I see. Do you own a real bike, or are you planning on getting a real bike in the future?



The answer was "No," in case you're wondering.
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Old 10-09-15, 11:54 AM
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That is just rude.
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Old 10-09-15, 11:55 AM
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The guy doesn't seem to know its an LBS brand bike.

Or was he trying to steer you to a boutique brand bike?
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Old 10-09-15, 11:56 AM
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should've asked him what car he drives and if it was anything short of an aston martin or bentley, ask him if he plans on getting a real car anytime soon.
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Old 10-09-15, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by NormanF View Post
Or was he trying to steer you to a boutique brand bike?
Or (my theory) a brand his shop actually carries.

They do carry expensive bikes, but I also saw plenty of Trek 7.2s, Elektra Townies and the like there, which are certainly good bikes but not all that "boutique" compared to my pathetic specimen.

I'm just wondering what page of their sales training manual says "Insult customer's taste and budget level."
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Old 10-09-15, 12:00 PM
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I didn't know an entry level bike wasn't considered a real bike.

Not all of all of us are spandex-clad leetists riding $5,000 bikes.
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Old 10-09-15, 12:08 PM
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It's okay, that's just the usual retail rudeness. You find jerks in all jobs, but retail particularly. I can say this, having worked retail for 15 years.
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Old 10-09-15, 12:12 PM
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I should've answered, "I'd get a 'real' bike, but maintaining an active social life in this town costs money. Oh, just out of curiosity, what do you ride?"
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Old 10-09-15, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ganchan View Post
Or (my theory) a brand his shop actually carries.

They do carry expensive bikes, but I also saw plenty of Trek 7.2s, Elektra Townies and the like there, which are certainly good bikes but not all that "boutique" compared to my pathetic specimen.

I'm just wondering what page of their sales training manual says "Insult customer's taste and budget level."
I would take a Coda Sport over a Trek 7.2 or Electra Townie all day long. Just Sayin'.

As for how you deal with such rudeness, just take your business elsewhere.
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Old 10-09-15, 12:29 PM
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I'm not sure why you consider it an LBS brand bike - they do sell to independant bike shops in the US.

I think it was probably ignorant, he didn't know what it was, so he wanted to steer you towards a better known name.

Stupid.
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Old 10-09-15, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ganchan View Post
Actual conversation with an LBS guy this morning, while asking about various accessories, etc:

LBS: What bike are you currently riding?
Me: A Jamis Coda Sport.
LBS: I see. Do you own a real bike, or are you planning on getting a real bike in the future?



The answer was "No," in case you're wondering.
"yeah, been looking.....will be ordering online any day now"
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Old 10-09-15, 12:32 PM
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Jamis bikes are generally nice. Find another shop.
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Old 10-09-15, 12:43 PM
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Was the employee a minimum wage 'kid', who is under some pressure to sell bikes - and got virtually no training on customer relations?
Were you looking at 'race' bikes when he approached you? Was it a joke to 'break the ice'? Who knows why his silly question. Don't take it personally - unless you secretly agree with his question. Take your business elsewhere if offended.
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Old 10-09-15, 12:55 PM
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It would be a chargeable offense to hit him with it to demonstrate how real it is ..
Steel is Real but so is a Louisville slugger Ash or Maple or aluminum NCAA Bat.

just a brand by a company that makes many more brands .. Jamis is a name on a contract.

It's what is stipulated in the contract that counts.
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Old 10-09-15, 01:03 PM
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"Nah, man. I want to get a better bike, but good lawyers are expensive, and I had to pay through the nose after I was falsely accused of beating the crap out of a snotty sales guy a while back."
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Old 10-09-15, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sakau2007 View Post
should've asked him what car he drives and if it was anything short of an aston martin or bentley, ask him if he plans on getting a real car anytime soon.
Of course..

Just as soon as you buy a "Real Bike"...

He'll take the profit to buy a new car.

I snagged an older Coda. A bit mixed. The frame seems quite nice, with a quality steel and butted tubing, and reasonably light. Components are mixed quality... but overall not bad. I'll probably put drop bars on it sometime.
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Old 10-09-15, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ganchan View Post
I'm just wondering what page of their sales training manual says "Insult customer's taste and budget level."
The page they stole out of BMW's sales training?

I had a friend walk out of the BMW showroom after telling the salesman, "I'm going to look at Audis. If I wanted a snotty attitude, I'd have called my ex wife."
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Too bad. That's another bike shop that will be out of business soon. When will these idiots learn how to be polite & show common everyday people some respect.
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Old 10-09-15, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ganchan View Post
Actual conversation with an LBS guy this morning, while asking about various accessories, etc:

LBS: What bike are you currently riding?
Me: A Jamis Coda Sport.
LBS: I see. Do you own a real bike, or are you planning on getting a real bike in the future?
I'm guessing that shop doesn't sell Jamis bikes. The Jamis Coda is an excellent bike.
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I'm guessing that shop doesn't sell Jamis bikes. The Jamis Coda is an excellent bike.
This and the guy was just joking, or you misheard him and he said "road" bike.
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I am finding cyclist get butthurt awfully easily. The guy was trying to be funny.
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Old 10-09-15, 04:08 PM
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Ha--------------you dont know the half of it. Ride recumbents and you will be told almost all the time you dont ride a real bike. But then I really dont care because I am riding in comfort, since I dont have a tiny seat jammed up -----------------!!!!!

The reason of course is the fact the UCI is protecting DF manuf since about 1933. Bents scare them because the right style of bents are much faster. Altho the UCI dont recognize the records, bents hold virtually all speed and time records.
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Ha--------------you dont know the half of it. Ride recumbents and you will be told almost all the time you dont ride a real bike. But then I really dont care because I am riding in comfort, since I dont have a tiny seat jammed up -----------------!!!!!

The reason of course is the fact the UCI is protecting DF manuf since about 1933. Bents scare them because the right style of bents are much faster. Altho the UCI dont recognize the records, bents hold virtually all speed and time records.
So I passed a guy the other day on a bent and we were close to some hills, so I had to ask him how it handles the hills and he said that it has really low gearing, but he usually doesn't try the steeper ones.

I have to ask you because you're always talking about how great bents are, how do you tackle the hills that are 12-20% grades without being able to stand up and stomp on the pedals? I can't even imagine it. Especially having most of the body weight near the back, it seems like it tip backwards, or there wouldn't be enough speed to keep it balanced?
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So I passed a guy the other day on a bent and we were close to some hills, so I had to ask him how it handles the hills and he said that it has really low gearing, but he usually doesn't try the steeper ones.

I have to ask you because you're always talking about how great bents are, how do you tackle the hills that are 12-20% grades without being able to stand up and stomp on the pedals? I can't even imagine it. Especially having most of the body weight near the back, it seems like it tip backwards, or there wouldn't be enough speed to keep it balanced?
I gear down, and while I cant stand, on a bent I can wedge the pedal against the back of my seat. I do NOT walk up any hills, and once over the top I have to yell "on your left" a lot!!!
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I gear down, and while I cant stand, on a bent I can wedge the pedal against the back of my seat. I do NOT walk up any hills, and once over the top I have to yell "on your left" a lot!!!
Haha, I give you credit, there's a couple of hills near me that are very short, but get up near the 20% grade point in a few spots. If I couldn't stand up and lean over the front of the bike, I'm pretty sure I'd fall over.
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