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Old 10-10-15, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius View Post
If anything, the video is more sexist than racist as there are no females shown attempting to steal the bait bike. All of the perps were younger males. This just reinforces the stereotype that young males are more likely to be thieves than females or even older males.
Possibly, but you would first need to know if the videographers/editors had filmed any women stealing the bike and that they purposely chose not to include those clips (especially if trying to reinforce a stereotype).
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Old 10-10-15, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Catinella View Post
Possibly, but you would first need to know if the videographers/editors had filmed any women stealing the bike and that they purposely chose not to include those clips (especially if trying to reinforce a stereotype).
Hard to get a bicycle stuffed into their purse.
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Old 10-10-15, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyG View Post
Mean-spirited, slightly racist, social-irresponsible and dangerous. Only a "jackass" would think this was entertaining.
Yes, racist! Clearly, Caucasians, Asians, and Jews are under-represented- both among criminals and in the make-up of that neighborhood- so I propose that we force some Caucasians, Asians, and Jews to move to that neighborhood, and that we require that a percentage of them become criminals, so that we can have racial equality among criminals.
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Old 10-10-15, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
Hard to get a bicycle stuffed into their purse.
That is as sexist comment.
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Old 10-10-15, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by erig007 View Post
We don't know who and how many got caught stealing all we know is what the guys chose to show. Therefore the video could be biased toward the authors of the video point of view and not the actual reality. Furthermore, even the choice of place that the guys chose is biased toward their viewpoints. Reason why it isn't evidence.
Funny how the producers knew precisely where to go, for a place where there would be no lack of criminals.....
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Old 10-10-15, 05:30 PM
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Okay. I've read the comments up to here and I realize that at some point I've become a sour old man. But you try raising a son to be honest, considerate and compasionate; and to help him achieve the goal of becoming a contributing member of a society that respects and values his participation, when in so much of our "enternainment" young men that look like him are portrayed like they are in this video...well, you'd be a little sensitive too.
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Old 10-10-15, 07:08 PM
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I could take that bike to poor areas in the poconos I know and film a bunch of young, white guys doing the same thing...and it still wouldn't be funny.
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Old 10-10-15, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Stucky View Post
Funny how the producers knew precisely where to go, for a place where there would be no lack of criminals.....
Opportunistic thieves are everywhere. I got rid of my old bike this way. When i was living in a place with one of lowest rate of violations (all types) in Canada my bike diseappeared in 2hrs. (i left my bike in a street on purpose, to be stolen). This place is 87% white, 3% black. So producers could have made this video in any place showing any ethnic groups. All this video does is to reinforce stereotypes nothing more.

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Old 10-10-15, 07:50 PM
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The police have used bait bikes in Vancouver and Whistler. I don't think they have quite as much fun and just track the stolen bikes with GPS. We have a high bike theft rate here but we can't blame it on African Americans as there are virtually none.
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Old 10-10-15, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by erig007 View Post
Opportunistic thieves are everywhere. I got rid of my old bike this way. When i was living in a place with one of lowest rate of violations (all types) in Canada my bike diseappeared in 2hrs. (i left my bike in a street on purpose, to be stolen). This place is 87% white, 3% black. So producers could have made this video in any place showing any ethnic groups. All this video does is to reinforce stereotypes nothing more.
2 hours?! LOL... In some "hoods" in many cities here in the US, all you'd have to do is ride it through the hood; you wouldn't even have the opportunity to leave it.....
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Old 10-11-15, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Catinella View Post
That is as sexist comment.
Yes, but not as sexist as saying 'stuffed into their bra" ...............just sayin'
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Old 10-11-15, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Stucky View Post
2 hours?! LOL... In some "hoods" in many cities here in the US, all you'd have to do is ride it through the hood; you wouldn't even have the opportunity to leave it.....
True, but then again, in my 'hood' my wife or I have left the garage door open all night, not once but twice. And on both occasions nothing was missing from the garage. Yes, there are black folks in my neighborhood.
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Old 10-11-15, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Stucky View Post
2 hours?! LOL... In some "hoods" in many cities here in the US, all you'd have to do is ride it through the hood; you wouldn't even have the opportunity to leave it.....
Given what it takes in terms of waste management, logistics, etc..you guys are good
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Old 10-11-15, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BobbyG View Post
Why does it have to be "the hood?" yes, one of the thieves appears white, but the rest of the video just reinforces negative stereotypes. Why was this location chosen? I believe this video is the literal definition of "race baiting". Also, while these thieves are definitely in the wrong the video promotes vigilante 'justice'. And laughing at the pain of others after setting out to inflict it in the first place is truly sociopathic. If karma does have anything to do with it, the last words on earth of the turd hosting this would be, "Hey, watch this...".
I believe this thread should go to P&R, as most commentary will now be based on the moral and/or ethical choices presented in the video.
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Old 10-11-15, 09:24 AM
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I was waiting for this moment. 39 posts.... not bad .
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Originally Posted by BobbyG View Post
Okay. I've read the comments up to here and I realize that at some point I've become a sour old man. But you try raising a son to be honest, considerate and compasionate; and to help him achieve the goal of becoming a contributing member of a society that respects and values his participation, when in so much of our "enternainment" young men that look like him are portrayed like they are in this video...well, you'd be a little sensitive too.
Nah, I agree. It's too easy to say "there's nothing racist about it, these criminals just happen to be black..." when we have no idea of how the location was chosen, how the film was edited, and all that stuff. The truth is we have no idea whether it was racist or not, and that being so it is probably unfortunate that it reinforces negative stereotypes about "the 'hood".

I also think that it is thoroughly unpleasant to deliberately place temptation in the way of people whose circumstances may be less fortunate than our own. Isn't there something in the Lord's Prayer about that? Not that I am in any way trying to introduce anything so serious as morality into the discussion...
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Old 10-11-15, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by avidone1 View Post
True, but then again, in my 'hood' my wife or I have left the garage door open all night, not once but twice. And on both occasions nothing was missing from the garage. Yes, there are black folks in my neighborhood.
America is much more of a crime culture though than Canada. Even in some of the best areas, if you left your garage door open and unattended for 2 hours(Even in very expensive middle-class suburbs) stuff would walk away. In the suburb of New York City where I used to live, you have people in $750K+ houses who have crack-heads rummaging through their backyards every night, who will steal anything that isn't bolted down. In the City itself, even in some of the best areas, virtually everyone lives with bars on their windows on at least the first story.

Usually the biggest difference between the better areas here in the US vs. the hood, is the greater level of violence and brazenness of the criminals in the hood.

By comparison, Canadians are friendly and polite- I could imagine even a Canadian mugger would probably be like: "Hey, like, could you give me your money, eh?"
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Old 10-12-15, 06:02 PM
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Not trying to be racist, but in this rural 97% white town I don't even own a cable lock. Stereotypes exist for a reason, are crime statistics racist too?
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Old 10-12-15, 06:11 PM
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Japan doesn't have a big problem with theft or violence like the U.S. does either.
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Old 10-12-15, 06:19 PM
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Not trying to be racist, but in this rural 97% white town I don't even own a cable lock. Stereotypes exist for a reason, are crime statistics racist too?
White people steal things in cities too. Just because you live in BFE and don't have a lot of crime in your town, doesn't mean that the only people that steal things in other cities are minorities.

I would stereotype most people in the south/midwest to be bigoted rednecks, is that a stereotype you're ok with? I would guess not.
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Old 10-12-15, 06:28 PM
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Regardless of their race, national origin, gender, religious affiliation, or political persuasion, those in the video were thieves and got what they deserved. A thief is a thief.
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General is not the place for a race debate. If you'd like to continue this, please take it to P&R. Closing.
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